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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:36 pm
by Color Red
I haven't looked the most critically into recent posts but I plan to go back for analysis tomorrow.
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:03 pm
by Arrow Shape
In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.
I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
How so?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:43 am
by Color Blue
In post 999, Color Red wrote:Heart lim giving off serious LHF vibes.
I don't see scum responding to their wagon like this.
How would you expect scum to respond to their wagon?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:44 am
by Color Blue
In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.
I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
Do you feel that Green is more likely to be mafia than heart or is this just for information?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 am
by Star Shape
In post 1003, Color Blue wrote: In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.
I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
Do you feel that Green is more likely to be mafia than heart or is this just for information?
I’m not confident enough to push for a scum wagon atp, so ye am info push on a slot I slightly scum read.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:28 am
by Star Shape
Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:29 am
by Color Blue
In post 1004, Star Shape wrote:I’m not confident enough to push for a scum wagon atp, so ye am info push on a slot I slightly scum read.
this is really confusing to me.
Are you saying you scumread Heart more than Green but you'd rather flip green because you think the info content would be better?
I'm not sure how to read this..
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:30 am
by Color Blue
In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
Why do you think Green is mafia?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:06 am
by Circle Shape
In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:
Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
VOTE: Star
Tomorrow turned into a couple days, but wow, I do not like this post.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:01 am
by Circle Shape
Explain your change on your view here, Heart?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:38 am
by Color Green
We're at the "pasta" stage of the Heart elimination, folks.
Aka "throw shit to the wall and hope it sticks"
Hence why past-heart and current-heart disagree so visibly about nolim.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:43 am
by Star Shape
In post 1006, Color Blue wrote: In post 1004, Star Shape wrote:I’m not confident enough to push for a scum wagon atp, so ye am info push on a slot I slightly scum read.
this is really confusing to me.
Are you saying you scumread Heart more than Green but you'd rather flip green because you think the info content would be better?
I'm not sure how to read this..
I don’t think I said that. My reads on both are rather watery, but I don’t want a nolim. I think Green will provide more info.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:45 am
by Circle Shape
In post 920, Star Shape wrote: In post 783, Color Green wrote: In post 777, Star Shape wrote:Arrow feels rather stagnant, if you will?
His reads come across the same since the beginning of the game regarding green, pent, and orange. It doesn't feel like he's evolving that much throughout the game.
I still don't think willingly shoving his head into the obtuse sands time and time again while also admitting fault comes from scum, like, ever, though.
Thats taking the defense of its so stupid it can’t come from scum which I don’t think is a strong enough defense lol
In post 937, Star Shape wrote:Anywho, sorry for the wall but I’m more caught up.
Arrow looks more town and Green is more scum so
VOTE: Green
Again, I’m genuinely impartial on who should be delayed if at all.
In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.
I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
In post 1004, Star Shape wrote: In post 1003, Color Blue wrote: In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.
I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
Do you feel that Green is more likely to be mafia than heart or is this just for information?
I’m not confident enough to push for a scum wagon atp, so ye am info push on a slot I slightly scum read.
In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:
Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
Star has no actual justification for voting Green. There's just...nothing.
I also think circle's response to pressure is looking...bad, but I'm not fully caught up on that yet.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:46 am
by Star Shape
In post 1008, Circle Shape wrote: In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:
Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
VOTE: Star
Tomorrow turned into a couple days, but wow, I do not like this post.
…Would you rather I fake reads?
Kinda silly you find the fact I don’t have a strong scum read but still want a lim scummy.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:48 am
by Circle Shape
In post 1010, Color Green wrote:We're at the "pasta" stage of the Heart elimination, folks.
Aka "throw shit to the wall and hope it sticks"
Hence why past-heart and current-heart disagree so visibly about nolim.
You're probably right
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:51 am
by Star Shape
In post 1007, Color Blue wrote: In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
Why do you think Green is mafia?
Hm actually
UNVOTE:
I don’t think Green is “scum” I said “looks more scummy” which aren’t the same thing.
But ISO has changed my mind.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:52 am
by Star Shape
In post 1012, Circle Shape wrote:
I also think circle's response to pressure is looking...bad, but I'm not fully caught up on that yet.
Did you mean Star?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:54 am
by Star Shape
@Circle again, would you rather I make something up? I don’t wanna make up a read I’ll later have to retract.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:54 am
by Color Purple
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:54 am
by Pentagon Shape
In post 1010, Color Green wrote:We're at the "pasta" stage of the Heart elimination, folks.
Aka "throw shit to the wall and hope it sticks"
Hence why past-heart and current-heart disagree so visibly about nolim.
What do you think of Star’s wanting to lim you?
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:56 am
by Pentagon Shape
In post 1015, Star Shape wrote: In post 1007, Color Blue wrote: In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
Why do you think Green is mafia?
Hm actually
UNVOTE:
I don’t think Green is “scum” I said “looks more scummy” which aren’t the same thing.
But ISO has changed my mind.
Oh nm then.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:56 am
by Color Purple
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:56 am
by Diamond Shape
I'm still on V/LA until tomorrow but... don't see a reason to move vote, etc.
The move to no lim does feel like it's pushing for survivalism rather than a meaningful reason to no lim, since... nothing was provided. Considered if the no lim vote would be to avoid spewing anyone but the only "real" vote I think from Heart at this point is Green and Green feels town to me so that's dead in the water.
(Sidenote: Feel like Green's town not only for their pushes but. They replaced in and said they'd been reading and had avoided Red's slot because of the read there. When you're spectating a game you're trying to solve it from a town perspective since lack of info, so... to me this sort of thing makes sense, and then the speed of which Green would have to process new information (if they subbed into a mafia role) and rework it with the towny solve they've been trying to create outside of game would feel... pretty wonky, and probably take longer to take "okay, I've thought these things, now I am scum, so I need to use this information differently" sort of mentality than the time they took to post upon arrival.)
So, trying to flip there is Silly, and also Dumb. Star can take some naughty points. Especially for reversing course just now when called out.
Back to familial stuff.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:00 am
by Pentagon Shape
Agree with Diamond, Heart looks the least like they’re trying to solve. No one expects you to have confident scumreads atp but you should at least be trying to have reads.
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:03 am
by Pentagon Shape
In post 985, Heart Shape wrote: In post 976, Color Purple wrote: In post 974, Pentagon Shape wrote: In post 886, Heart Shape wrote:Color Red#
Color Orange
Color Yellow*
Color Green#
Color Blue
Color Purple
Arrow Shape
Circle Shape
Diamond Shape
Heart Shape
Pentagon Shape
Star Shape*#
Triangle Shape
Color Yellow-Shape Arrow
Color Red-Shape Pentagon
Color Purple-Shape Heart
Color Blue-Shape Circle
Color Green-Shape Diamond
Color Orange-Triangle Shape
Star Shape
Looking at this I don't think there's a s/s team. At least not one that pops out. With that premise, there could be 3 teams with scum in them or 2 teams with scum and Star is scum. Red & Pentagon and Blue & Circle I think may be most likely, with Red being scum in that pairing and Blue in the other. I didn't like Blue's treatment of Diamond, and I've gotten bad vibes from Red both pre- and post-substitution.
Still don’t understand this read on Blue, I think they’ve been really townie. Why no further explanation on red read?
Another thing that caught my eye, all of these symbols. I’m going to assume that “#” is possible scumread, “*” is a possible nullread and having both in the case of Star is nullscum?
But Green is never mentioned anywhere before in Heart’s ISO as a scumread and there is no symbol next to blue.
I would like Heart to explain the symbols. Unless they were people that Hert wants eliminated/NKed?
Look at the player list in Post
0. It's just a copy and paste job. I wanted a list of players. Those symbols are prods and replacements.
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If y'all think all I did was come in, make a list and leave, I don't know what you're on about. I've put more work into this game than I planned to.
Also, people need to learn what "perspective slip" means. It's losing its meaning as much as it's been thrown around in this game.
I don't know who the scum is on my wagon, but I'm pretty sure it's not a pure wagon. Flipping me for info may be the best play right now given the time left in the day.
I don't understand why we're not talking about possible powers and the delay and why it's scummy that I am thinking about it. We don't know how much time we're going to have to talk about it. As someone said, it's important that we hold Star accountable. We can do that. I think we should require Star to use the delay on a specific pair. That pair tries to use whatever power they get, and they should get delayed.
And why even bother to make a list of prods and replacements if you’re not going to form an analysis based off of that?