Mini Theme 2259: Superfight Mafia!

[Flea The Magician]

ok 1 - was suffering my meds yesterday
2 - I got hard defended but you backed off at the cruial moment lol

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: nk 15

VOTE: flea
My lord and savior miltank commands me

I also would have thought the bear was Pooky if I didn't take approximately 5 seconds to vote

My first two votes. Was all downhill from here lol

[Flea The Magician]

gg though, and D1 doomed me completely -.-;

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gg wp

thx for modding jingle

i forgot to send in my fighter becuz i was busy picking and then got distracted and then forgot >.>

[Jingle]

i forgot to send in my fighter becuz i was busy picking and then got distracted and then forgot >.>

Someone else almost missed deadline too, and the arbitrary discord server came up with "Three armed children in a trenchcoat." I'm not 100% sure if there were three children with arms, three children who had guns, or an unspecified number of children who each individually had three arms, but in any case it would have required a very large trenchcoat.

[jjh927]

gg wp

thx for modding jingle

i forgot to send in my fighter becuz i was busy picking and then got distracted and then forgot >.>

I mean, it worked out
I'm guessing you were fighting me so that scum could mislim you if you won by citing that you were in my poe

[Flea The Magician]

Actually it was hoping you would be yeet. Pooks was low energy and if high energy is engaged then eh makes our lives easier.

[Jingle]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=88605 - Mod Thread
https://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php ... p=13243793 - Dead Thread

I'll give the scumteam the ability to edit posts in the scum PT momentarily and then release that in a few days.

Also, yeah, I think N1 was basically a pure NK from the scumteam.

[Roden]

GG, thanks for the game Jingle.

Faerie legitimately did get me with the fight against Lich, I didn't think scum would do that tbh. But in hindsight, it makes a little more sense if scum wanted to keep me around as a pocket but needed to remove one of my hard town reads. Also assuming JJH was correct earlier and that Faerie thought they just had a good chance of beating Lich in a fight. I just wish I committed to keeping Flea in my PoE.

[Roden]

Oh also good job voting correctly in 5p Roden. I didn't exactly do a good job being convincing when my solve had you in it

Tbh you had a good reason to suspect me. I was just nervous that Faerie might've been getting bussed at first, but you did actually town tell a lot and the Koba anecdote sealed it for me.

[Enchant]

Flea the Magician was distracted to death by a laser pointer. Fae was:

MAFIA

.

The town of PookyTheMagicalBear, Galron, Roden, Not_Mafia, Dwlee99, jjh927, TemporalLich, Radical Rat has won the GAME!

Wait why i didn't win

[Jingle]

You and Firebringer apparently got deleted from the playerlist by accident. I'm sorry, but you can't win if you never played.

Fixed

[Enchant]

Yay, undeserved win for limbaiting.

[Radical Rat]

Gg folks, FM still Town in my heart though

[jjh927]

I mean, your lim was pretty unfortunate tbh Enchant

After my misunderstandings got cleared up I didn't particularly want you limmed but wanted to see people's reactions and then there was a sudden votecount and NM immediately hammered

[Not Known 15]

I don't think this setup should be run again. It is just too breakable if town insists on a good strategy.

[Jingle]

I don't think this setup should be run again. It is just too breakable if town insists on a good strategy.

Functionally mountainous is too breakable?

[Jingle]

I mean, I guess not functionally mountainous, given the potential for forced scum NK's, but still. I think the change on balance from the kills being unreliable isn't severe enough to offset the additional scum player over mountainous.

For reference: 11v2 mountainous is both a 40% town EV and observably scumsided historically.

I was aware that both what Dwlee attempted to do and what jjh actually did were possible and still think the balance is well within the limits of playable.

[jjh927]

Yeah I mean

Sure, the fight mechanic can be used to town's favour
but 10-3 mountainous is to scum's favour

If town end up using the mechanic to ensure specific players win fights, there's no guarantee that they aren't just ensuring scum can win the fights without risk

I think the setup favours strong players rather than either side specifically

[jjh927]

From a perspective of trying to solve the game as town, it's easier to put together a solve since unlike most games you can pretty much guarantee that some of your scumreads are gonna get NKed

But also it's 10-3 mountainous

[Flea The Magician]

ok I joined because I wanted to play with nancy, set up didn't appeal to me.

I honestly got well into it and I've enjoyed it. Picking out fights was a challenge in itself, I do want to know what TL's case was or if he was just talking crap though

[Not_Mafia]

gg wp, thanks Jingle for hosting, I enjoyed the set-up, a fun and engaging way to do pseudo-mountainous

Who was my opponent the night I died?

[Jingle]

Dwlee99 beat you with a Giant Frog that had opposable thumbs and magic.

[Not Known 15]

From a perspective of trying to solve the game as town, it's easier to put together a solve since unlike most games you can pretty much guarantee that some of your scumreads are gonna get NKed

But also it's 10-3 mountainous

No. It is not. Town can gurantee that at least one obvtown survives unless one mafia sacrifices themselves.
As soon as one mafia member dies it means that mafia must go through night eliminations.
And the EV for one mafia lim is high, not low, for 10-3 mountainous.

[jjh927]

Why don't the scum obvtown though