In post 9849, RCEnigma wrote:Nancy talk to me about OTH because they have been sliding in my reads since day 1.
Well, take Gamma’s outburst at the end of d2 for example, where Gamma clearly misread Luke’s and Pooky’s trolling of Marci. Why does scum!Gamma ever flip out like that if Math flips scum? Gamma was clearly worried that they would get run up in the event of a Math townflip.
Gamma is pretty much incapable of faking that level of emotion. OtH is NEVER scum here.
Yeah and I stand by this. I still have 0 clue what you’re talking about?
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:07 am
by Off The Hook
I might be missing context actually, I was just going off that last line, but the part before it specifies I was worried about a Math townflip. So the argument you're making is not that I couldn't fake
Gamma didn’t fake anything. His anger was still genuine. Your assumption of it impossible for scum to be genuinely upset is wrong.
And Gamma was extremely clearly upset that if Math flipped town, Marci would get blamed for that.
I was trying to find the original post that started this topic off because I thought it had gone unaddressed, but since Pooky added something I'll respond to the latest part of the reply chain I found:
Both Pooky and Nancy's positions here are wack. I'm pretty sure I've iterated multiple times to them that I don't fake emotion as scum, I just angle it differently. To cite events in Slaughter Hour, I was legitimately pissed no one listened to me on Infinity, but towards the end of that event I ceded the point because I knew I could gain sway once my read was proven correct. And the reason why I said both are wack was that in the original post Nancy said my emotion here was genuine, ignoring the above point.
I do have to ask, Pooky, what emotions are you saying I faked that game? To make that accusation with no specificity runs a dangerous line, as I had emotional aftershocks from that game that have lasted until very recently.
~GE
So then I don’t get it Gamma, what is “whack” about our position?
You're ignoring nuance that I'm 99% sure I've spoken about with you in proximity countless times.
In post 9849, RCEnigma wrote:Nancy talk to me about OTH because they have been sliding in my reads since day 1.
Well, take Gamma’s outburst at the end of d2 for example, where Gamma clearly misread Luke’s and Pooky’s trolling of Marci. Why does scum!Gamma ever flip out like that if Math flips scum? Gamma was clearly worried that they would get run up in the event of a Math townflip.
Gamma is pretty much incapable of faking that level of emotion. OtH is NEVER scum here.
You said "Gamma can't fake these emotions so he's town". The issue is I
rarely if ever
fake emotions as either alignment, so it's a net-zero statement to say I wouldn't fake emotions as scum. Pooky probably got close, I am just a bit triggered by him saying my emotions in Slaughter Hour were fake because as I said, that game actually shook me to my core.
~GE
Yeah, so I still don’t get why you think what I posted was “whack”? No not really because Pooky and Luke were trolling that Marci would be blamed in the event of a town!Math flip and if you and he were buddies, you would obviously already know that couldn’t possibly happen, so why would you be upset in that case?
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:09 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10176, Off The Hook wrote:I might be missing context actually, I was just going off that last line, but the part before it specifies I was worried about a Math townflip. So the argument you're making is not that I couldn't fake
emotion
, but I couldn't fake
uninformed perspective
like that.
~GE
You practically lost your shit over it and that makes absolutely no sense if you and him were buddies.
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:12 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 10174, Off The Hook wrote:You said "Gamma can't fake these emotions so he's town". The issue is I rarely if ever fake emotions as either alignment, so it's a net-zero statement to say I wouldn't fake emotions as scum. Pooky probably got close, I am just a bit triggered by him saying my emotions in Slaughter Hour were fake because as I said, that game actually shook me to my core.
I'm not saying your emotions in slaughter hour are faked.
I am saying you use anger/emotion to get townread when scum if you have an appropriate trigger point.
1) Cephrir was diverted from Math. How and why?
2) Was Taly scum as well? That relates to 1.
3) Should we start from the position that D1 Taly's reads were worse or equal for scum than Cephrir?
~Titus
Taly was not scum. Math clearly didn’t gaf whether he voted Ceph or Taly.
what threw me off was Math's stance on Taly/Ceph reminded me of his stance on me in PYP
If that hadn't happened I probably would have agreed w marci on mathblade
~GE
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:13 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 10178, Dancing Puppets wrote:You practically lost your shit over it and that makes absolutely no sense if you and him were buddies.
if gamma thinks me/luke are "bullying marci" he's going to lose his shit on us regardless of his alignment because he thinks he's defending marci from us.
Not sure flavor claiming is helpful to town though
Would recommend not doing this. Imo.
Flavor claiming I mean.
Unless you’re a rock. In which case feel free.
Makes me feel Bell wouldn’t soft with the title to his episode.
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:34 am
by RCEnigma
But I wouldn’t know what I would be looking for even if he did.
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:42 am
by Rad
I was looking through the Lost wiki at the episodes Bella mentioned... the character Juliet is indeed a doctor. So yeah... flavor matches...
I couldn't find anything specific from "the other woman" episode that points to Juliet being "macho" but maybe that's not spelled out in the wiki. Any Lost watchers wanna comment on that? Any macho-like character development from her in that episode?
Gamma didn’t fake anything. His anger was still genuine. Your assumption of it impossible for scum to be genuinely upset is wrong.
And Gamma was extremely clearly upset that if Math flipped town, Marci would get blamed for that.
I was trying to find the original post that started this topic off because I thought it had gone unaddressed, but since Pooky added something I'll respond to the latest part of the reply chain I found:
Both Pooky and Nancy's positions here are wack. I'm pretty sure I've iterated multiple times to them that I don't fake emotion as scum, I just angle it differently. To cite events in Slaughter Hour, I was legitimately pissed no one listened to me on Infinity, but towards the end of that event I ceded the point because I knew I could gain sway once my read was proven correct. And the reason why I said both are wack was that in the original post Nancy said my emotion here was genuine, ignoring the above point.
I do have to ask, Pooky, what emotions are you saying I faked that game? To make that accusation with no specificity runs a dangerous line, as I had emotional aftershocks from that game that have lasted until very recently.
~GE
So then I don’t get it Gamma, what is “whack” about our position?
You're ignoring nuance that I'm 99% sure I've spoken about with you in proximity countless times.
In post 9849, RCEnigma wrote:Nancy talk to me about OTH because they have been sliding in my reads since day 1.
Well, take Gamma’s outburst at the end of d2 for example, where Gamma clearly misread Luke’s and Pooky’s trolling of Marci. Why does scum!Gamma ever flip out like that if Math flips scum? Gamma was clearly worried that they would get run up in the event of a Math townflip.
Gamma is pretty much incapable of faking that level of emotion. OtH is NEVER scum here.
You said "Gamma can't fake these emotions so he's town". The issue is I
rarely if ever
fake emotions as either alignment, so it's a net-zero statement to say I wouldn't fake emotions as scum. Pooky probably got close, I am just a bit triggered by him saying my emotions in Slaughter Hour were fake because as I said, that game actually shook me to my core.
~GE
Yeah, so I still don’t get why you think what I posted was “whack”? No not really because Pooky and Luke were trolling that Marci would be blamed in the event of a town!Math flip and if you and he were buddies, you would obviously already know that couldn’t possibly happen, so why would you be upset in that case?
this read isn't bad but it's disaster waiting to happen.
