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Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:54 pm
by Zar
Ninjascum: I still fail to see how anything I've said about you changes.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:56 pm
by Zar
I'll go take a stroll along the halls of the museum while you use your cervau de foie gras to explain to me your UberScum read on me, k?

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:45 pm
by UberNinja
Zar wrote:Let's take a look at what you said about me:

"He doesn't mention Yosarian until I ask him in 419 what he thinks. Has a town read on Yosarian. Great! Yosarian comes in post 800+ and mentions him. Their scum tactic is to mention each other about every 400 posts."

Do you seriously think that's a case?
Zar wrote:So let me get a read on this wagon.

Ninja, Kanye, Furcolow, and Elmo

Two of my ScumPicks + 2 barely useful players.

:/
Zar wrote:Ninjascum: I still fail to see how anything I've said about you changes.
Zar wrote:I'll go take a stroll along the halls of the museum while you use your cervau de foie gras to explain to me your UberScum read on me, k?

And now, ladies and gentlemen, the flailing has begun.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:03 pm
by Yosarian2
Deadline extention


Still don't think Zar is scum; the case against him is pretty thin, and the people on his wagon look like scum.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:02 pm
by springlullaby
Day 1 votecount 17
(0) charter

(0) Elmo TeH AzN :

(0) Furcolow:

(0) Katsuki:

(0) kanyeknowsbest:

(0) Nuwen :

(0) Parama :

(0) shos:
(4) UberNinja :
shos, Nuwen, Yosarian2, Zar,
(4) Zar:
UberNinja, Furcolow, kanyeknowsbest, Elmo teh AzN,
(2) Hiraki :
Parama, charter,
(1) Vi:
Katsuki,
(1) Yosarian2:
Vi,

(1) Not voting :
Hiraki

With 13 players, 7 votes are required to lynch.


Deadline Extension

Support (7/7): Vi, Nuwen, Elmo, Zar, Katsuki, Hiraki, Yos

The new deadline is set to
Thursday May the 10th.

Countdown: (expired on 2012-05-10 12:00:00)
No further extension will be granted within this game-day.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:39 pm
by Hiraki
Springlullaby wrote:The new deadline is set to Thursday May the 10th.
Countdown: 5 days, 8 hours, 21 minutes
Thanks again.

I'll start reading tomorrow and will make a determined effort to get through the entire game tomorrow. No guarantees though.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:23 am
by Vi
Yosarian2 wrote:Still don't think Zar is scum; the case against him is pretty thin, and
the people on his wagon look like scum
.
How many of them?

Unvote: Yosarian2
Vote: Zar
(L-2)

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:59 am
by shos
Vi wrote:
Yosarian2 wrote:Still don't think Zar is scum; the case against him is pretty thin, and
the people on his wagon look like scum
.
How many of them?

Unvote: Yosarian2
Vote: Zar
(L-2)

pressure vote again I guess? *haha*

I fail to see any case on Zar.
it seems to me that Uberninja has tried to check Yos2 for scum couples and saw he had little interaction with Zar, and therefore concluded that Zar is scum. I have no idea why, tho.

This adds to my case against Uberninja.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:05 am
by Zar
shos wrote:

I fail to see any case on Zar.
it seems to me that Uberninja has tried to check Yos2 for scum couples and saw he had little interaction with Zar, and therefore concluded that Zar is scum. I have no idea why, tho.

This adds to my case against Uberninja.


^ QFT

Well, at least I am happy that Ninjascum's reads may be confirmed un-useful soon enough.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:05 am
by UberNinja
Everyone else gets it. The only reason to pretend not to is either because you're scum with Zar or because you're Zar.

Well, and then there's shos, who I don't think is pretending; he actually really seems to be that dense/tunneling on me.
Try ISOing me and Ctrl-F-ing "Zar", shos.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:42 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
Zar really looking thru your iso all I see is you talking about Charo a couple times and going full tunnel mode on UN

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:00 pm
by Furcolow
Hiraki, have you read the game yet?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:02 pm
by Furcolow
Also, Hiraki, I'd like it if you'd grace us with a vote

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:38 pm
by Zar
UberNinja wrote:Everyone else gets it. The only reason to pretend not to is either because you're scum with Zar or because you're Zar.

Well, and then there's shos, who I don't think is pretending; he actually really seems to be that dense/tunneling on me.
Try ISOing me and Ctrl-F-ing "Zar", shos.


Uberscum, if you really believe your case on me, why aren't you writing it?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:14 pm
by UberNinja
Zar wrote:
UberNinja wrote:Everyone else gets it. The only reason to pretend not to is either because you're scum with Zar or because you're Zar.

Well, and then there's shos, who I don't think is pretending; he actually really seems to be that dense/tunneling on me.
Try ISOing me and Ctrl-F-ing "Zar", shos.


Uberscum, if you really believe your case on me, why aren't you writing it?

Again, I've already written it. Which, you'd
know
if you had read my posts.

Try following the advice I just gave to shos... (make sure to open the spoilers first btw, shos)

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:38 pm
by Zar
UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: shos
shos / Vi - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / Zar - I think shos is town, so no.

Nothing here.

UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: Vi (scum)
Vi / Zar - They haven't said enough about each other for me to decide. I am independently suspicious of both of them.


Has a wishy washy stance on speculated suspicion. Admits to having nothing.

UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: diddin/Katsuki
diddin/Katsuki / Zar - The only mention on either side is Zar saying he'd consider Katsuki a compromise lynch, in 862.


This is not correct (Forgetful Ninja?). Your first attempted fluff case on me acknowledged me questioning diddin, twice. Still nothing.

UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: QuilmoTeHAzN
QuilmoTeHAzN / Zar - Meh, I don't even want to read this. Quil is so likely town by this point that looking for associative tells here would be just as fruitless as looking for them between myself and myself.

Nothing here.

UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: Pirate Chiermosticada
Pirate Chiermosticada / Zar - Chiaro has some good insight on Zar in his replacing out post #498 (link is just above here), where he says
"I don't like his cases on either me or UberNinja, seems to be tunneling hard and looking for evidence to justify his conclusions rather than the other way around. Scummy." <-- that right there isn't something one scum says about another. The end. Not scum together. This almost cements my town read on Chiaro and my scum read on Zar.


Zar calls Chiaro scummy and votes for him in 271. In post 326, Zar defends his voting of Chiaro, even though nobody has questioned it. In post 409, after I call him out on it, Zar says the he "decided to explain why I felt my vote was still good" randomly. Looool, scummy as fuck. Then in 685, he says "I still think the Chiaro slot (replacement included) fits the profile of low activity scum." but then NEVER MENTIONS HIM AGAIN. I am now 99% sure Zar is scum again.


#1) "looking for evidence to justify his conclusions rather than the other way around" <- what does that even mean?

#2) So you like that Chiaro doesn't like my cases on him or you. *acts surprised* (Hint: Core reason for Ninja voting me is here)

#3) Newsflash: I did mention him again, in my tiers post.

#4) BTW, you keep saying I "randomly defended" my chiaro vote. As I said in my response to your first attempted fluff-case on me, did you not read diddin's reasons for voting chiaro, which I gave.

Also FTR, there is nothing yet to make me rethink my stance on the Chiaro slot (Hiraki has yet to come with comments, reads, thoughts).

UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: Yosarian2 (scum)
Yosarian2 / Zar - Zar doesn't mention Yos until post 419, after I ask him what he thinks of Yos. "Townish due to his contributions" is the reply. Well, then. Yos also gets a town read from Zar in 862. Fantastic. After that, that's it. No more from Zar regarding Yos. It appears his modus operandi in this case is to call his scumbuddy "townish" after 400 posts, then "town" after another 400. Don't expect him to mention his scumbuddy Yos again for another... 200 posts or so. It's not time yet.
Yos on the other hand is even more ludicrous/awful: His first mention of Zar is SIX hundred posts into the game, in post 596, where he's listed as "town" with no explanation. In post 932 he says "Zar? Really?", chiding Vi for mentioning unvoting him (Yos) to vote Zar. Yos talks about people
suspecting
Zar in post 982, but doesn't say anything about Zar himself. And that's it.


Roquefort-quality-smelling
raison
Making a partnership case without flips. :/

UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: Parama
Parama / Zar -

Nothing.

UberNinja wrote:
Spoiler: Nuwen
Nuwen / Zar -

Nothing.

UberNinja wrote:
Zar is scum. No two ways about it. I'll eat my finest feathered bonnet if he's town.



Unvote; Vote: Zar

This can also be a vote for Yos. I prefer Zar at this point though.


UberNinja thinking: "Let me call another counter-wagon that's not me as a last resort. I've been soft-pushing it all along anyway."

CONCLUSION: UN's CASE ON ZAR = OMGUS + Speculative Partnerships.

Confirm Vote: UberNinja

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:17 pm
by Zar
EEBWOP = diddin asking reasons for voting chiaro.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:39 pm
by Parama
Yeah if I had to pick between uber and Zar I'd definitely lynch Zar first


FWIW

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:04 pm
by Katsuki
No one's yet tell me why we're voting Zar?

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:10 pm
by Parama
Because we're not voting Hiraki :<

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:33 pm
by charter
We should lynch Hiraki.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:35 pm
by Hiraki
guys

gimme time mofos

ill knock ya socks off

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:36 pm
by Hiraki
EWBOP:

The entire point of the time extension was for me, no?

don't waste it

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:46 pm
by Parama
24 hours from now kthx

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 4:53 pm
by Katsuki
Parama wrote:Because we're not voting Hiraki :<


B-b-b-ut.

:/

I'm totally lost this game.