Open 391 - Theft on Cookie Island - Town Wins

[Quaroath]

Vote Count 2.06

FuDuzn - 1 (AcRv)
Thomith - 1 (FuDuzn)

Guy_Named_Riggs - 6 (Rainbowdash, Chrimi, Projectmatt, Om of the Nom, Sando, Hiraki)

RainbowDash - 1 (Guy_Named_Riggs)

Not Voting - 1 (Thomith)

Lynch achieved!

The gods of cookie island are restless. The volcano, it is rumbling again.

The villigars gather in town to select the sacrifice... no "accidental" trip this time.
After milling about for a few minutes, those gathered realize that someone is missing... is someone dead a new victim?

Hastily they set out for Guy_Named_Rigg's house, expecting to find the worst.

Instead they find him attempting to abandon the village to its fate, loading his canoe with his sundry belongings.

Incensed, the crowd begins to demand answers as to why he is leaving. GNR shouts back "You are all crazy, I'm not getting thrown in a volcano!" With that, he shoves off, paddling out to sea as fast as he can manage.

The Gods, they do not appreciate the insolence. Mount cookie erupts a small flow of lava descending the side as a token of the Gods displeasure. Then suddenly a large boulder shoots out of the mouth of the volcano, and arcing over the villagers, lands in the middle of GNR's canoe... sinking it, and taking GNR down to the bottom with it.

"The Gods are mollified," says the shaman. "They have their sacrifice."

Guy_Named_Riggs, Mafia Goon, drowned at sea by the vengeful Gods of Cookie Island.

Night 2 begins. Night Choices are due by 6/4/2012 at 4pm PST

[Quaroath]

DAY 3 DAWNS

YOU FIND HIRAKI WITH TREFOIL COOKIES STUFFED UP HIS NOSE!

He's such a funny guy.

Too bad someone taped his mouth shut.

Ah well, carpe diem.

Hiraki - Vanilla Townie - Suffocated on trefoils Night 2!

Not Voting - 8 (AcRv, FuDuzn, Rainbowdash, Chrimi, Projectmatt, Om of the Nom, Sando, Thomith)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline for Day 3 is 6/25/2012 at 11:59 PM PST

[Om of the Nom]

Potato
Should I claim who I blocked last night?

[Sando]

Potato
Should I claim who I blocked last night?

Don't see why, it's a slight deterrent to a fake-claim of cop if we don't know, as you may have blocked scum who fake-claim a result, giving us a free lynch.

[Rainbowdash]

Ok... so scum are desperate AND blind? I was 100% expecting a dead OOTN or no kill to have happened.

As far as im concerned its Chrimi or PM today, and probably the second tomorrow.

@OOTN - You need to have your "if we lynch scum I block X" down before we start voting, as if we lynch scum, you cant die without clearing somepony.

@cop - If you have a result claim. If not im going to say let it ride.

[Sando]

Tend to disagree with the cop not claiming, but not sure. To my mind:
A cop with 2 alive town-flips should claim, this makes 4 guaranteed confirmed and RD as a very likely confirmed leaving a very small lynch pool (great)
A cop with scum-flips should claim
A cop with 1 alive innocent, I'm on the fence, but definitely not if it's their N1 result as that's been put out there
A cop with no alive innocents should not claim

Is any of my reasoning there faulty?

Basically I don't think the cop is needed to clear OOTN, I'm pretty happy with the idea that we have one, and they can claim tomorrow.

[Om of the Nom]

I will make my block choice for tonight a secret.

[Rainbowdash]

Almost every fiber of my being says PM should be getting lynched here, then I just see one or two sentances from him that make me think otherwise... if it wasnt for those I would already be trying to basically end this day. Then again there are some things that make me go 'hmmph' still either way.

Its at least one of PM/Chrimi though, I would not at all be surprised if im freaking out over nothing and its both. I think of cop got a result on one of the unknown its over. So I will go to sleep and hope it over by tomorrow.

@OOTN - You are trying to block the kill tonight, no matter what happens today.

@sando - Cop exists. They are only claiming if they have a result from last night. If they got blocked or checked Hikari they stay quiet. If they have a result we should have three lynches and in WORST case scenario four possible scum.

Worst case half the game is clear as far as I am concerned. If cop has a guilty I will present the forced win and scum can resign the game. If cop has an innocent there is still probably a forced win here if we dont hit the one town in three players.

[Thomith]

I'm against the cop claiming if they don't have a guilty and only have one innocent, but hey it's your choice i guess.
If you guys saw the cops breadcrumb we could hypocop and then at least some of us will know the report?

[Rainbowdash]

I'm against the cop claiming if they don't have a guilty and only have one innocent, but hey it's your choice i guess.
If you guys saw the cops breadcrumb we could hypocop and then at least some of us will know the report?

If cop as a innocent from last night they should claim because it should give me enough to almost force a win since somepony alive dropped what is enough of a town tell that I would not even consider lynching them outside of a F4 situation. That should leave us with about a forced win if we get another clear from anyponys hooves, basically if JK didnt hit cop I think we won outside of Hikari or myself being checked last night.

If cop doesnt have a result, extra hypo is really not worth it since only the PRs would know what happened, basically with no result claimed OOTN knows who he hit is cop so he wont target them again. He will go for the block instead (especially if we hit scum). Maybe if we mislynch I can see him doing a dice roll with cop in there, but thats it.

@OOTN - Who you blocked last night hold onto. Who you block tonight IN THE EVENT WE HIT SCUM you claim ahead of time. If we hit scum, only one scum is alive so cant kill if you hit them, meaning you get killed and your target is confirmed town. Very crudely, we lynch scum today we win. OOTN prevents the kill tonight we win. Playing RANDOMLY we have about a 70% chance of winning.

Actually... let me think. I think OOTN shouldnt protect the cop either way and just go for the block instead

Oh this is awesome. We get to hook the JK and cop up or force a win.

Want to make sure you have this OOTN - If the cop does not claim a result, you blocked them last night. If thats the case you dont block them again, and try to hit scum that is submitting the kill. You also need to claim "If we lynch scum I am blocking X" at this point, so that if we do lynch scum its a forced win for us as you will clear somepony and cop will clear somepony else at the same time. If we lynch town just block whoever you think is scum.

That was a lot of thinking.

After cop checks in we can see where we go next.

[Thomith]

but if we hypo cop wouldn't YOU be able to force a win because you would know the Inno or guilty? as YOU said you saw the breadcrumb.

[Om of the Nom]

Fine, I'd like to lynch one of Matt/Chrimi too, so I'll block whichever one doesn't get lynched if one of them flips scum.

[Thomith]

Actually thinking about it we have pretty much an assured win if cop claims even just an innocent, so if you have one you should claim cop.

[Sando]

Cop, acrv and fud are town. On phone, will post more later.

[AcRv]

[hypocop]Last night I pulled up outside of Thomith's house in my ferari, and decided to look through his bedroom window with my binoculars.

He was watching Plan 9 From Outer Space, which while is a crime in its own way, proves that he can't have stolen the cookies because everyone knows that cookie-stealers can't stand B-Grade movies.[/hypocop]

Hiraki, Sando, Chrimi, Rainbowdash and Thomith are all townie to me.

ManhattanProject and Riggsy are null

FuDuzn and Ommy are scummy (I know Ommy's claimed jailkeeper, but unless a cop claims Day 3 I'm going to be eyeing him.)

So...

VOTE: FuDuzn

Well, I really don't see anywhere that RD could've seen somebody as cop. She was the only one who said she got a guilty on GNR... >.>

VOTE: RD

I have an insanely high townread on her, but logic beats it.

I was looking at Chrimi and this struck me as odd...
Not a great reason for voting Rainbowdash. Claiming it's logical to vote the person who is voting someone they think is scum?

VOTE: Chrimi

... Okay, Sando's cop claim is making me confuzled... because I thought Thomith was cop.

but it does matter because i am not scum, and because you Can't let go Of the fact that you might be wrong and so you will be Pretty dissapointed when i flip.

... can you please explain this?

[Thomith]

I breadcrumbed cop to draw in the nightkill because i didn't think that many people would notice it but it would be noticeable enough to give the real cop another night to get a report, i know it was dumb, but i thought a cop would be more useful to me at that point.

[Thomith]

I breadcrumbed cop to draw in the nightkill because i didn't think that many people would notice it but it would be noticeable enough to give the real cop another night to get a report, i know it was dumb, but i thought a cop would be more useful

than

me at that point.

EBWOP

[Sando]

I gotta admit, I was extremely confused yesterday!! I had no idea what was going on, first I thought RD was cop-hunting, then she claims she's found the cop, but then says it's not me...

[Chrimi]

If I was scum I would've killed OOTN

As simple as that.

These scum are fucking stupid xD

[Rainbowdash]

Eh?

Okaaaayyyy, I had seen same thing AcRv did which is why the mini meltdown occured right after it

So

Im town, OOTN is town, sando, AcRv and FD are town...

Chrimi/PM/Thomith are where scum is then it would mean.

So it should be a forced win.

For Hikari to die, it means that PM would be town (probably) due to his hypo. Scum had to be desperate though to go straight for the cop since unless they were in massive trouble, OOTN was the correct play.

It doesnt make much sense though either way, thinking Chirmi lynch though right now due to dead Hikari.

Too bad AcRv was investigated, he is obviously town for Hikari dying over Thomith if Thomith is the cop and this is sando trying to be clever.

@Thomith - If this is a gambit and you have a N2 living result, claim it now because that might make more sense in the grand scheme of things.

[Rainbowdash]

I think it really might be Thomith-Chrimi here

Hikari died because scum were hunting for the cop.

Logically this means that PM should be town, because through the hypo they would know Hikari was not the cop outside of a major gamble that Hikari got blocked and was just throwing something out there, or just not paying attention which both I doubt.

AcRv is town because Thomith lived, and both ways he is clear as Thomith-cop means AcRv is town because Thomith is alive, sando-cop means AcRv is town because of results.

So it basically has to be Thomith-Chrimi who went for the cop in an all or nothing move and missed it.

I have a hard time believing Thomith-town fakeclaimed cop that hard. Even my move I kept saying "or I know the cop", the move from Thomith more lines up with scum putting out a solid breadcrumb. The reaction of Chrimi staying on Thomith though after that is odd enough though that maybe scum just botched the move last night.

Heck I ALMOST want to say sando is fakeclaiming here. If he is, he needs to come clean now, because the only logical pairing if he isnt makes no sense to me. I just have that something is very wrong feeling.

@OOTN - In the SUPER offchance you are last scum, can you just give up now? Setup will catch you when it hits F4 and game isnt over.

Vote Chrimi

Its the only thing that makes sense here. Probably with Thomith given hypos.

[Rainbowdash]

I think it really might be Thomith-Chrimi here

Hikari died because scum were hunting for the cop.

Logically this means that PM should be town, because through the hypo they would know Hikari was not the cop outside of a major gamble that Hikari got blocked and was just throwing something out there, or just not paying attention which both I doubt.

AcRv is town because Thomith lived, and both ways he is clear as Thomith-cop means AcRv is town because Thomith is alive, sando-cop means AcRv is town because of results.

So it basically has to be Thomith-Chrimi who went for the cop in an all or nothing move and missed it.

I have a hard time believing Thomith-town fakeclaimed cop that hard. Even my move I kept saying "or I know the cop", the move from Thomith more lines up with scum putting out a solid breadcrumb. The reaction of Chrimi staying on Thomith though after that is odd enough though that maybe scum just botched the move last night.

Heck I ALMOST want to say sando is fakeclaiming here. If he is, he needs to come clean now, because the only logical pairing if he isnt makes no sense to me. I just have that something is very wrong feeling.

@OOTN - In the SUPER offchance you are last scum, can you just give up now? Setup will catch you when it hits F4 and game isnt over.

Vote Chrimi

Its the only thing that makes sense here. Probably with Thomith given hypos.

[FuDuzn]

Hmm, I would love for a Thomith lynch over Chrimi. And the problem I am having here is based off Thomith's reaction to me pointing out Chrimi's 'scum slip'. I really can't picture them as both scum, but as you said RD almost guaranteed one of them is.
VOTE: Chrimi

[projectmatt]

Okay, let me think about this

This game is slightly heading into an excellent direction, though. I'm not sure how it's possible to even lose given our current situation.

First of all, I'm going to read Over Thomith/Chimi/RainbowDash, interactions and decide which pairings would actually make the most sense.

I don't think that Thomith is town for claiming cop - in fact every part of him screams scum and I'm fully planning on getting him lynched today.

I had an early townread on Chimi and a strong town read on RainbowDash - both which I will evaluate

-shrug-

[projectmatt]

Hold on, Om The Nom could still be scum, I guess, but I buy his reaction to RD claiming cop yesterday

Chimi/Thomith contains one scum. I'm 100% in that, at least