Where the fuck are all the townies. Stop being bitches and post dammit
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:03 am
by Katsuki
Fate I think this is one of those games where you should just hand reins over to Nuwen.
p.s. Chamber's most likely town
I'm wont to agree with UN being more likely scum than town though.
Oh and we're still not lynching Fate ever will be annoyed if Axxle actually shot Fate.
Vote: UN
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:07 am
by Katsuki
↑UberNinja wrote:
Look guys, we need to stop lynching OBVIOUS FUCKING TOWNIES and leaving SHIT like CDB, Glork, Reck, and Wyrd alive.
I dislike this post heavily for a multitude of reasons.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:43 am
by Glork
↑UberNinja wrote:What's the basis for your BBmolla town read, Glork?
I have no such read. He's fucking scummy as hell.
Scummy as hell is a towntell for BBMolla....
But no seriously, it's apparent that over hte first two days he hasn't given a single fuck what anyone else thought of him, and that fits BBTown meta perfectly and flies directly in the face of BBScum meta. In Weather Mafia II he appealed to Tierce and she flat-out busted him for it. In Blood Bowl, he replaced in and basically decided to sheep me for towncred, and I busted him for it.
Plus, this post is REALLY FUCKING AWKWARD for BBScum to make so early in the game. A vast majority of scums take a much more scattershot approach, and BB never sheeped his buddies in the other two games I mentioned where he was scum.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:54 am
by UberNinja
↑Katsuki wrote:Fate I think this is one of those games where you should just hand reins over to Nuwen.
p.s. Chamber's most likely town
I'm wont to agree with UN being more likely scum than town though.
Oh and we're still not lynching Fate ever will be annoyed if Axxle actually shot Fate.
↑UberNinja wrote:
Look guys, we need to stop lynching OBVIOUS FUCKING TOWNIES and leaving SHIT like CDB, Glork, Reck, and Wyrd alive.
I dislike this post heavily for a multitude of reasons.
Because it has your scumbuddies in it?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:12 pm
by xRECKONERx
Regarding CDB:
I'm not entirey used to CDB actually playing in mafia games since he usually lurks out in most of them. I will say his play this game seems drastically different from Great Idea Mafia, the open game that just ended where I was in endgame with CDB and DoubleJD. CDB was a lot more self-assured, confident, even cocky in that endgame (where he was scum). A lot of posts he makes also give me town vibes, like his whole don't be silly, I'm town vibe at the start of the game (I believe there was another one of those somewhere, too). The only thing that tinges my gut a bit to believe he may be scum are his fluff-posts that wind up being rather empty, vapid responses to things that don't matter, like #271, but I think I'm still leaning town on him at the end of the day.
Regarding Wyrd:
I'll admit I have a bias with Fate, but I tend to read him as town if he reads me as town. I can't think of a game I've played with Fate-scum off the top of my head, but I've played plenty with him as me-scum, him-town. I usually think he's being pretty genuine if he reads me as town based off of my early game play (or, in this game, early replacement play) because Fate really can read me well. In Always On Mafia, for example, Fate came out of the gate saying I was town, and that immediately gave me a good read on him because I think scum!Fate would much rather discredit me and try to get me lynched. This was also back in the day where I was actually good at mafia and could actually catch scum, so I may just be a waste of space, but I'm willing to go town on this for now. The "let me hand this off to Nuwen" shit is pretty hokey, but Wyrd's play here is very similar to Gay Mafia, where they were a shining beacon of townieness.
Regarding Katsuki:
"Katsuki is fun as shit to lynch" aside, he's scummy as ballsack here. Take a look where he takes the opportunity to jump on the UN lynch because "he makes the game unenjoyable". Whether UN is scum or town, it gives scum!Katsuki an easy to jump on the lynch without looking
terrible
. Also, a MattP vote hop without reason. The way Katsuki reacted to me voting him was also mildly panicky, something I'd expect from scum!Kats but not town!Kats. There were other things, too, like the D1 hammer on MoS outta nowhere, but seriously Katsuki looks scummy as fuck. I'd lynch him.
I don't actually know who the other scums are, because these are the only three people I've read in detail and I think 2/3 are town. But there it is.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:49 pm
by Singer is Nachomamma
vote: Reck
Glork, with us!
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:55 pm
by Wyrd
Vote Uberninja
.
So listen to me closely, because I'm about to tell it straight and clear. Fate muttered stuff about weak behavioral reads on Uberninja to me and I told him to
sit the fuck down
. I had him convinced, so let me do the same to you.
Uberninja: On Parade
Internal consistency
are some words you hear me say a lot. It means "saying one thing, but doing something else at odds with those words." I usually catch scum these days because none of them are interested in maintaining a consistent narrative and don't approach the game from a deductive PoV; most contemporary scrubs just ask "what makes sense for town right now?" and stop there.
Uberninja is an inconsistent flagship. I'll list off the most accessible and briefest examples.
epm is a distant 5th-ish to the people in post 1011
Wyrd, Reck, Katsuki, CDB in that order plz
↑UberNinja wrote:What's the basis for your BBmolla town read, Glork?
I have no such read. He's fucking scummy as hell.
BBMolla votes Wyrd (unprovoked, to start the day), Uberninja votes Wyrd, Uberninja questions Glork's town read on BBMolla.
In a handful of posts,
votes with a live scumread
that doesn't come to fruition until someone calls BBM town. If Uberninja truly had BBM on a mental scum ticklist, I doubt he'd readily
vote for the same player
when he's vocally calling 3+ other slots scum. Most town players reconcile these reads in their head BEFORE ever making it to the thread (even if they're not really conscious of it... "X and y and z are probably scum... but y just voted z without provocation, so let's focus on x and y."
Someone will point out that BBM quickly changes his vote to Evilpacman. Doesn't really matter here. In the same breath that Uberninja screams LYNCH WYRD, he claims Pacman is on the fringe of his scum radar. You really can't reconcile these thoughts in a cogent town mind.
↑UberNinja wrote:[just generally stuff UberNinja says]
Don't mock me, I'll chop your damn head off.
Uberninja is calling CDB scum, but this reads with a tone of "I lucked my way into the town block - don't fuck with me or I'll orchestrate your lynch."
Scum is scum is scum is scum and right now, town is concerned with
lynching any and all terrorists
. Town do not negotiate with the terrorists.
Scum, however,
are in a pretty good position right now (weak Panzer gone, some 'stronger' players on the chopping block) and are most concerned with feeling out who they can keep and who they should shoot.
Kills thus far haven't been role-related, they've both been targeting very very pro-town players
. This is what Fate got right, imo: scum are bunkering down for the long haul.
Need I really go further?
- Open Uberninja's ISO and count the number of times he's voted
with his scum reads
when wagon momentum happens to swing that way. There's no consistency between votes or discernible matrix.
Some of you will probably say this is just a hallmark of a bad player, town or scum, so let's move on to...
With Panzer!
Uberninja had a very, very important ~question~ for Panzer. A VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY important question, as shown by the following couple of posts:
↑Katsuki wrote:still alive etcetc read this sometime
do you ever play any of the games you join?
Seriously. I don't think I've ever seen you play a forum game by actually playing it. Usually it's just prod dodges and fluff until you either get lynched or written off as probtown. Are you scum this game?
Panzer, you still never answered my question.
This Glork lynch needs to happen.
Let's do it. Singer. Nacho. CDB. chamber. Brandi. UNITE
What's the VERY VERY VERY important question Uberninja posted to Panzer?
You scum this game Panzer? Answer me honestly or you know what happens.
I call this
content generation
or
crack'd pressure cooker
. Scum like to "pressure" people a lot (sometimes even their own scumbuddies!), but unless they're carefully taking note of their own reads and "pressure," most of the questions they pose to people are never followed up on. This, ironically, becomes double-plus true and obvious when two scum are attempting to appear unconnected to each other. Scatterbrained scum almost never remember to followup on their "reads."
The QUESTION is unimportant, trivial compared to the rest of the things Panzer did since RVS time... but that's what Uberninja fixates on to "pressure" Panzer. His QUESTION was a huge priority, metrically: notable TWICE hundreds of posts after originally posed. Inordinate amount of attention paid to a new and minor tell = intentionally
Not-so-coincidentally, Uberninja was calling
a lot of people voting Panzer scum
around this time and well into the next 200+ posts (Glork & Gamma). In fact,
UBERNINJA IS LAZY ENOUGH TO KEEP CALLING GLORK SCUM TODAY
↑UberNinja wrote:Glork is either scum or fucking terrible as I have been saying all along.
Wyrd is also either scum or retarded, but they must sheep me for the rest of the game so we're all good there, in theory.
Look guys, we need to stop lynching OBVIOUS FUCKING TOWNIES and leaving SHIT like CDB, Glork, Reck, and Wyrd alive.
I can't win this game by myself bitches
Despite it being very, very, very unlikely that Glork and Panzer are scum together.
Uberninja sort of "realizes" that Glork is town, but not for the reasons you'd expect from a town mind:
Spoiler: IT BURNS MY FUCKING EYES IT'S SO SCUMMY, HERE'S A SPOILER"
↑UberNinja wrote:I'm just giving you grief Glork, don't take it personally. I'm down to join the bloc.
Y'know.
If UberNinja would just play nice, we'd have a voting bloc of ultimate winning here.
Lynch among the darkies.
Axxle vigges among the darkies.
Lynch among the darkies.
Axxle vigges among the darkies.
Lynch among the darkies.
If we havent won yet, then Chamber is scum and was possibly lying about Axxle.
I'm debating whether or not to ask Axxle who he targeted last night. I'm thinking wait, because that way the scums can't just derp around... or trololohammer like Panzer did to MattP.
If chamber or Axxle are scum it throws a wrench in but that can't be helped at this stage.
First time somebody flips town we stop and recalibrate but until then we FUCKING BULLDOZE.
Deal, Glork?
If so, lets fucking roll.
sic: "Wait nevermind Glork isn't scum Glork is in my town bloc with me I'm town!! Also here are some reads of the dead guy who also called me town so let's lynch them!"
Panzer with!
(nothing to see here control+F wherewhonow?)
Disappearing Acts (bedtime VCA reading) - maybe we'll touch on this for the unconvinced. I have a fish to grill.
Fin.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:04 pm
by ChannelDelibird
Nuwen, I heard angels singing to me while I read that.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:06 pm
by ChannelDelibird
VOTE: UberNinja
LET'S FINALLY DO THIS SHIT
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:27 pm
by Vu
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:37 pm
by xRECKONERx
holy fucking shit Nuwen
vote uberninja
now THAT was a fucking case, holy fuck
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:38 pm
by BBmolla
UNVOTE: VOTE: UberNinja
k
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:10 pm
by Singer is Nachomamma
I feel like if UberNinja was scum, his buddies would've gotten him lynched already. So.
I'd rather sheep Glork than Nuwen since she's lost all credibility with me for this game. \o/
~singer
Preview Edit:
Ew...dat reaction...I'm content sheeping Gamma right now, since he was the biggest (only-ish?) pusher of Reck with no other suspicion on Reck, and now lolhedead.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:14 pm
by xRECKONERx
Yes, and I, as scum, would obviously kill off my most vocal opponent.
I mean if you're going to use WIFOM, I am too. No way would I kill Gamma as scum in this position. No fucking way.
So your reason to ignore the entirety of Nuwen's case on UN is "UN isn't dead already"?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:23 pm
by xRECKONERx
I just had this big jumble of wordvomit typed out and it has been abbreviated as follows:
#1) If you're town, why would you sheep Gamma onto
me
, when he even admitted his case was just "lolgut", and he even admitted at one point that suspecting me for lurking isn't a meta-tell at all?
#2) You say you're going to sheep Glork
AND
Gamma in the same post... well... sorry, but one of them even said he was going to reconsider his read on me come D3 (oh gee look he died!), and the other asked for content to try and clear me as pro-town so we could have a solid group of townreads.
#3) Seriously. Your entire dismissal of Nuwen's case is
well UberNinja wasn't lynched D1 or D2 therefore he's town
... I mean, what the fuck, singer? That's epic levels of horseshit, and you know it. How about putting Nacho on the phone for a minute?
Jesus fuck, your vote for me was actually AFTER I posted my reads
singer what the hell is your actual read on me and why do you think I'm scum?
you didn't mention me at all this game until you voted me and a reasonless vote on D3 is kind of
fucking retarded
unless your drunken incomprehensible ramblings in this thread was a case on me in singerese, of course
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:58 pm
by Nachomamma8
Uberninja wrote:panzer is probtown. Panzer being a town rolecop is totally fucking believable in this setup so stop spreading your scum rolecop bullshit, because its exactly that.
singer is on her shit yet again, so if you know what's good for you, you'll follow her to victory.
AXXLE, who will taste death tonight?
Uberninja wrote:panzer is probtown. Panzer being a town rolecop is totally fucking believable in this setup so stop spreading your scum rolecop bullshit, because its exactly that.
singer is on her shit yet again, so if you know what's good for you, you'll follow her to victory.
AXXLE, who will taste death tonight?
fuck
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:54 pm
by Singer is Nachomamma
↑xRECKONERx wrote:Yes, and I, as scum, would obviously kill off my most vocal opponent.
I mean if you're going to use WIFOM, I am too. No way would I kill Gamma as scum in this position. No fucking way.
So your reason to ignore the entirety of Nuwen's case on UN is "UN isn't dead already"?
I have a really, really good response to this.
I'm not singer, but.
Wait for it.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:54 pm
by Singer is Nachomamma
wait
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:56 pm
by Singer is Nachomamma
↑xRECKONERx wrote:Yes, and I, as scum, would obviously kill off my most vocal opponent.
I mean if you're going to use WIFOM, I am too. No way would I kill Gamma as scum in this position. No fucking way.
So your reason to ignore the entirety of Nuwen's case on UN is "UN isn't dead already"?
yes you would totally kill gamma in your position
hell, why not? you're the mighty reck, just WIFOM that bitch away
