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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:30 am
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
In post 1022, GuyInFreezer wrote:TMT I'm coming for you after I'm done with Varsoon.
Not going anywhere
Varsoon wrote: Anyway, Ghostlin and Sajin for scum.

...

Pretty sure there's something worth flipping between the two.
Do you feel the need to explain this

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:30 am
by Varsoon
Should be apparent.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:30 am
by Ghostlin
In post 1023, Varsoon wrote:The insistence on my wagon and misrep/lack of perception is what bugs me the most.
That, and, y'know, the rest of how they've played this game so far.

Still think there's scum in the active 4, but that's a case for another day.
Hey! I asked you questions. FUCKING ANSWER THEM.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:31 am
by Varsoon
Cool, put them in bold with my name next to them so I'll see them next time.

Or just ask them again right here/direct me to the post.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:32 am
by GuyInFreezer
@Varsoon: cool. Tell us what you learned about those "mentalities."

P-Edit: DON'T DISTURB DAMMIT

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:33 am
by BeautyAndTheBeast
In post 938, Cabd wrote:Last one, slight scum-lean.
Top three, that was because you guys brought up an outside game and talked shit about it, i'd be pissed too.
it is a completed game. how do I know this? I gmed it.

and we have been referencing old games the entire game do you remember who started it, it was 2 that is who

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:33 am
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
GIF can you do me at the same time because we can do it in real time, we may not be on at the same time like this for a while

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:34 am
by GuyInFreezer
@TMT: start with your reads.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:35 am
by BeautyAndTheBeast
eta: also felice isn't even his real name and it isn't even his entire username wtf was that about

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:35 am
by Varsoon
In post 1029, GuyInFreezer wrote:@Varsoon: cool. Tell us what you learned about those "mentalities."

P-Edit: DON'T DISTURB DAMMIT

Which players were more likely to support my ideas/buddy/sheep, which ones had more game-knowledge, and which would lurk more in the face of larger discussion. For the most part, it gave me pretty-spot on ideas of how the players in that game went about the game, and so on. Sadly, it also made me distrustful of Fuzzy, which led to town defeat in the long run. The main problem with that game was that scum replaced in, so, while I knew some people's approaches, I couldn't really pin the replacing-scum as easily.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:37 am
by Varsoon
In post 1008, Ghostlin wrote:Sajin's town.

Varsoon, 675 seems like you want to buddy Orc and then you vote him. Then you accuse him of trying to be 'town leader' in 676.

Explain to me the following:
675: Why would you take two diametrically opposed stances in the same post? What did it gain you, and what would the town motivation be in wanting Orc to post less? (Considering the more he posts, the easier he is to read?)

676: What would the advantage of taking a proactive role of Town Leader be scum motivated? (Keeping in mind most people scum styles aren't proactive, they're reactive?)

Gonna assume that Ghost means these questions.

Let me figure out that Orc was town. Orc's town.

Scum could earn town-cred. Players don't question the extremely active/inactive nearly as much as they should.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:37 am
by GuyInFreezer
In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:37 am
by GuyInFreezer
In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:41 am
by BeautyAndTheBeast
In post 949, Varsoon wrote:
In post 793, GuyInFreezer wrote:@BRO: Not yet. I really haven't interacted with Varsoon yet and he won't be back for around 7 hours.
the way GIF knows me, it's terrifying.
In post 933, Cabd wrote:Varsoon makes eggo look like the inferior waffle brand.
TD did shit posts then an ATE when arriving, and ATE = leans scum to me.

I try.


I quoted some other posts but they got lost, so, eh.

I feel like the BRO vote on me instead of TD is kinda weak, but it is what it is.
TD responded like I expected a town TD to. I might step back from this, but TD's less interesting than I thought.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: 2
I don't like how 2's been recently.

Also, I could care less for Orc's "Rally 'round the family" approach of just saying "Everyone vote my scumspec".
Mac's mac, so I'll always be skeptical of 'm.
I really don't like AJ's recent plays.

GIF's flip on his townread of me is neat.
Seems like Nacho is ready to flip how he feels, depending on things.

Oh, I wanted to tell BRO that I mention they had town reads on me because of the meta. I'm not using it to defend my alignment, they are. :P

Anyway. I'm here, so if GIF wants to chat, feel free to ask me things.


2, what's your town motivation in this game?

Who do you think is scum? Why?
Can you point me to posts where you've done good scumhunting, in this thread?
ahahahahahaha

bus spotted

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:47 am
by BeautyAndTheBeast
In post 968, Varsoon wrote:@2: Thanks for the list. Could you articulate why you think these more active players are town and these less active ones are scum?

@TD: Why the ghostlin vote?
okay maybe not I liked this post

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:49 am
by Varsoon
In post 1036, GuyInFreezer wrote:In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.
Man, now I have to dredge up the game itself.

In posts 38 and 44 of this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4755377
I propose a posting quota despite knowing it's not that great of an idea. I mainly propose it to figure out the approach other players in our game would take and to get us out of RVS, one way or another.
Yoshi sheeps into it, which let me know pretty early on that Yoshi's quick to sheep, but generally wanted to do 'pro-town' things.
ANG sheeps it, and buddies me pretty hard, so I'm pretty skeptical of him. Same went for yoshi, for calling me conf-town so soon. Turned out ANG's slot was scum.
NS stands against it, but is pretty pro-town in doing so, explains why policy isn't exactly a good thing for town.
Nabber disagrees with a quota but agrees with posting a lot, putting him in a safe position for his scum slot. His response didn't give me a scum-tell, though.
Kur0 was dubious, but didn't turn anything around on me, essentially confirmed him as town in the long run due to his responses there and later.
Fuzzy eventually comes in and uses the quota deal to levy a case against me, which I found pretty scummy at the time, but later read as being extremely distrustful of 'confirmed townies', which should have given me a town read overall. #noobmistakes
Other players were largely absent (like Nacho), so I didn't get much out of them.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:49 am
by Varsoon
@B&B: Was trying to pin 2, and I still really haven't. 2's a hard read for me.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:53 am
by GuyInFreezer
Varsoon you know I'm asking what you learned about players in THIS GAME with sven-litmus test.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:55 am
by Sajin
In post 1028, Varsoon wrote:Cool, put them in bold with my name next to them so I'll see them next time.

Or just ask them again right here/direct me to the post.
You have about 5-6 points addressed right to you in post 1006.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:59 am
by GuyInFreezer
Can you guys plz go look someone else other than varsoon till I'm done with him?
He can answer you guys' posts when I'm done with him.

You guys can go for other scummy guys too like TMT, who disappeared after I asked him for reads.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:02 pm
by Mac
In post 1014, Cabd wrote:
In post 1012, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 905, ² wrote:
In post 856, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:and buldey left out a huge response to the middle of his catch up yesterday, things I would think that he would respond to
I did leave it out, and I was going to respond to it,
but f said she already pressured you on gchat
so I figured I'd leave it be. I already pointed out what stood out to me.

- b
wat
Ummm. Somebody refresh me on this, but is scum allowed to chat outside the mod-given areas? If so, hello scumslip.
how is this a scumslip Cabd? can you elaborate on this.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:04 pm
by Cabd
My home site allows talking with your scum team in any method you wish, and gtalk is the most popular method. This was before somebody clarified that you are not allowed to do that here. I read it as "X told Y over gtalk to pick up their game" until it was clarified. So not a scumslip.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:05 pm
by Mac
oh okay. that makes sense.

also feels like a major townslip.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:08 pm
by GuyInFreezer
If I was confident at my English I wouldn't ask this but
Hey Mac. Can you read over my questions on Varsoon so far and see if Varsoon's answer makes sense?

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:08 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Especially 1036-1040.