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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:52 pm

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We are clear to US. And you are clear to us by dint of our being alive day 2. Additionally, if that weren't enough, based on the lack of a hammer vote this afternoon, there is no way that YOU are scum with us and no way that we are scum with bert. The game would already be over if there are two scum in that group of three.
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:55 pm

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From an opportunity to hammer point of view, you and bert
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be scum because there isn't post timestamp evidence that you were in the thread at the same time. But, we're alive, so you are town. You are not scum with Bert.
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:57 pm

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But you cleared me.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:58 pm

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Brian, talk to me about why you think Guyett isn't scum.
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:59 pm

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In post 1027, Brian Skies wrote:But you cleared me.
In post 1026, morph the cat wrote:From an opportunity to hammer point of view, you and bert
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But, we're alive, so you are town.
You are not scum with Bert.
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:00 pm

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Based on your claim, the only possibility of me being scum is with you. And we already proved that we couldn't be a scumteam because we could have quickhammered. But your claim only clears me, not you. This is what I'm trying to tell you.
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:01 pm

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See, that means something to us because we know we'd be dead if you're scum. But, that's not confirmed until we flip.

The timestamp evidence is independent of our claim.
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:02 pm

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I think we're talking past each other. :/
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:04 pm

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The existence of me being scum and you being town cannot exist BECAUSE of your claim alone. This means I can only be scum with you.
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:09 pm

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In post 1033, Brian Skies wrote:The existence of me being scum and you being town cannot exist BECAUSE of your claim alone. This means I can only be scum with you.
Objectively, you're fully cleared as town when we flip.

But, you are cleared to us.

Now, talk to me about Guyett?
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:13 pm

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I'm on page 16, let me get back to you tomorrow before I decide on anything definitive. I'm extremely slow on my thorough reads and I like having other people's opinions. But basically, my interactions with Guyett Day 1 when he put me at L-1 seemed genuine. And his story about why he posted when he did makes sense to me. I can provide these posts for you if you need them.

Anything after page 16 hasn't been touched yet, so it's mostly a gut feel.

If you think he could be scum, please provide reasons. Same for VA and Bert.
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:16 pm

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I'll go back through that section of the game. I had Guyett as town after my catch-up read of day 1. His interactions with you were part of that. IIRC I had concerns about the run-up to Lucky2u's lynch but they were outweighed by earlier goodposting.

Day 2 really messed with that read, though.
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:18 pm

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I mean, I'm pretty sure I can make a case for anybody left in this game. But I need to read the entirety of the game before I get an idea of where I'm leaning. I'll definitely try to get this in by tomorrow.
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:28 pm

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Here I am sitting on Page 20, and I just don't get it, Morph. I just don't get why you did what you did.
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:40 pm

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In post 1038, Brian Skies wrote:Here I am sitting on Page 20, and I just don't get it, Morph. I just don't get why you did what you did.
If the day hadn't ended when it did, we might have done something different. But it ended without my being caught up and definitely without a chance for Cabd and I to talk about who to hide behind and then leave a solid crumb. You were the only player that Cabd talked at length about but didn't chart as pretty far in the town direction, so we felt pretty confident that if we died night 1 you would be the player that town focused on as our likely target.
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:48 pm

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You're on the right track, but you're just not there yet. I wonder if you can figure it out without me telling you.

Either way, I'm still only on page 23, so I'll ask you in detail tomorrow after I finish catching up.
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:55 pm

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I'm guessing I won't. Unless it's to do with my taking you to task about policy voting early day 2. That was me yelling at you for contemplating an anti-town reason for voting.

It's 1 am for both of us. We'll catch up in the morning.
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:44 pm

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I'll have my posts up tomorrow. I think I have a pretty good lead.
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:17 am

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This is my first Lylo on this site afaik.
Saki is scum, I am 99% sure of that
My vote will go there and I really don't want to move it again.
The fact that he was not quickhammered earlier implies either myself or himself are scum. I know I am town so he has to be scum.

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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:18 am

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Brian is obv town, Bert less so but I am around 75% sure he is town.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:04 am

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Yeah, I seriously doubt Guyett is scum

VOTE: Viera Assassin

I've put it all out there

also, this vote is NOT for just solely clearing out lurker suspects, that isn't enough at this point. I'm judging VA on his play alone, and he does not get bonus points for lurking. :facepalm:
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:09 am

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We don't have the luxury of clearing out lurker suspects. This is almost certainly LYLO.

But, I'm convinced that Saki is scum. And the lack of a hammer yesterday convinces me that you aren't, bert.

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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:16 am

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It might take a while for GiF to do the flip as he is V/La.
Hope I haven't made a terrible mistake with that VA vote
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:21 am

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Me too. I hate lylo. I get very little practice at it.
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:28 am

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I have no practice with it. I'm just trusting my gut mainly
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