NY 172: Another Large Normal (GAME OVER)

Snork · Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:20 am

It is extremely difficult for me to refrain from capslock raging at you right now for twisting the point into oblivion and playing stupid.

talah · Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:23 am

In post 1023, Snork wrote:Like... this would be pretty easy for town to answer you know... I mean.. at this point I just want to force you to commit to your method of scum hunting so I can call you out on it.

And your responses are increasingly frustrating.

Hey - MY responses are not increasingly frustrating, since you're after a straight 'yes' or 'no'.

YOURS on the other hand, are inherently obfuscatory, because you're refusing to even clarify what the fuck you mean, and refusing to accept my answer in anything other than 'yes' or 'no' format.

Hey look, I understand, your MO is to lynch the juiciest player who might actually have a late game going on.
Great! Keep about it.

And in the meantime

ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION

BEFORE TEMPTING MY GOOD GRACES

BY HUMOURING YOUR BULLSHIT

Snork · Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:25 am

Are you kidding me? I quoted you, and asked if you thought that behavior was a scum tell or not.

What's so "obfuscatory" about that? Nothing. And using buzzwords to continue avoiding the issue is just another nail in your coffin.

talah · Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:26 am

In post 1025, Snork wrote:It is extremely difficult for me to refrain from capslock raging at you right now for twisting the point into oblivion and playing stupid.

Why don't you state your point rather than hiding it behind a necessary 'yes' or 'no' to a question based on a paraphrased statement you've butchered and presented to me as if it was the statement I made.

talah · Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:27 am

In post 1027, Snork wrote:Are you kidding me? I quoted you, and asked if you thought that behavior was a scum tell or not.

What's so "obfuscatory" about that? Nothing. And using buzzwords to continue avoiding the issue is just another nail in your coffin.

Hi, you didn't quote me, you started the sentence with 'Jumping at', just like I did, and then put something else at the end.

That's bullshit.

talah · Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:29 am

Also fuck off.

I was off to bed half an hour ago.

UNVOTE:

Mister Rogers · Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:30 am

In post 1003, talah wrote: I townread Rogers from that, actually, because he was inferring that we'd get the most information by lynching someone
he thought was scum
(BJC).

I didn't think he was scum (but I definitely didn't town read him). The game state would be repaired by his removal and if he ended up being scum that would be a benefit.

Snork · Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:30 am

talah wrote:
In post 1027, Snork wrote:Are you kidding me? I quoted you, and asked if you thought that behavior was a scum tell or not.

What's so "obfuscatory" about that? Nothing. And using buzzwords to continue avoiding the issue is just another nail in your coffin.
Hi, you didn't quote me, you started the sentence with 'Jumping at', just like I did, and then put something else at the end.

That's bullshit.

Oh really?

Snork wrote:*sigh*

Talah. I rephrased what you said. To me, jumping at shadows is the same thing as jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course. It's less words which appeals to me.
That's all
. There is literally no distinction, in my mind, between the two, because I am asking you about something
you said
:
In post 993, talah wrote:
In post 989, Snork wrote:EBWOP: "had" should be "have".

But seriously, Talah. You don't want to analyze your own wagon?
Five votes, one of which is mine, is barely good wagon analysis.

This is a bit of a problem I had with Pidgeon as well - jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course.

Do you believe the bolded in your quote is a valid scum tell, Yes or No?

In post 993, talah wrote

Snork · Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:32 am

Jenny:
Helpfukl statement

In post 993, talah wrote:jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course.

In post 1005, Snork wrote:You didn't really answer my question here. Or I don't understand your response. You said you had a problem with AP "jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course", to which I asked if you thought that was a valid scumtell.

In post 1015, Snork wrote:Talah, all I'm asking is if you feel that AP "jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course" is a valid scum tell or not.

In post 1018, Snork wrote:jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course

Snork · Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:33 am

In post 1033, Snork wrote:
In post 993, talah wrote:
jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course
.

In post 1005, Snork wrote:You didn't really answer my question here. Or I don't understand your response. You said you had a problem with AP
"jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course"
, to which I asked if you thought that was a valid scumtell.

In post 1015, Snork wrote:Talah, all I'm asking is if you feel that AP "
jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course"
is a valid scum tell or not.

In post 1018, Snork wrote:
jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course

TALAH. STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH WORDS.

Snork · Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:34 am

God I hope I'm not the only one who sees a problem with what's going on here.

Snork · Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:36 am

Talk about derailing a valid point...

talah · Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:38 am

Now quote every post you just made where you said "Jumping at shadows", and help me understand the difference, and why you selectively quoted only the posts where you *didn't* say what I was specifically arguing against being the same thing.

Snork · Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:39 am

Because it's irrelevant!! I'm not asking you about jumping at shadows! I'm asking about WHAT YOU YOURSELF SAID IN POST 993.

Snork · Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:41 am

"Jumping at shadows" is not the fucking question.

I want to know if what you said about ap is a fucking scum tell to you or not.

What is so goddamn difficult to understand about that?

talah · Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:42 am

While you're at it, quote the post where I *Explicitly Answered You*, if indeed your question was regarding what I *actually said* rather than the one that you *made up and which had a different meaning*

Here's a hint: the answer has the word "context" in it.

Mister Rogers · Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:43 am

In post 1024, talah wrote:Lol@Rogers

Literally every player in the post he quoted is town.

If he's looking for scum-me, why not start with my scum game?

THE MIND FUCKING BOGGLES

Please explain to me how being right about your suspects has anything to do with that meta point. I didn't mention scum hunting

prowess

, I simply mentioned scum hunting AT ALL. You haven't done any of it this game.

Snork · Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:45 am

If Joe Shmoe tells me his mother is in the hospital, and I ask him how her health had been prior to that, and he tells me he doesn't know how to answer me because "health" is such a vague word, I mean.. wut. This is what you are doing. I'm asking you a simple question and you are acting like it's so fucking hard to understand.

p-edit: Talah, you never answered me. You have yet to answer me.

Me: Do you think X is a scumtell?
You: Well what is X?
Me: X is what you said in this post.
You: I can't answer that because you didn't say what I said.
Me: I rephrased what you said because what you said had too many words, but essentially I want to know about you said, of course.
You: But I can't answer that because you didn't say what I said.
Me: Okay, but can you just answer about what YOU said?
You: No because you didn't say what I said.

talah · Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:46 am

ZOMG IT'S REALLY BEDTIME

ZOMG

Snork · Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:47 am

In post 1017, talah wrote:
In post 1016, Snork wrote:
In post 1015, Snork wrote:Talah, all I'm asking is if you feel that AP "jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course" is a valid scum tell or not.

This is somewhat frustrating.
This seriously only requires a 'Yes' or 'No' answer, which I haven't gotten yet, and that's why I'm dissatisfied.
No, you can clarify what you mean by paraphrasing it as "jumping at shadows".

Otherwise the answer is "possibly, depending on context"

Jesus christ. IN THE CONTEXT OF THE POST

YOU MADE ABOUT

AP

.

Fuck.

talah · Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:49 am

In post 1042, Snork wrote:If Joe Shmoe tells me his mother is in the hospital, and I ask him how her health had been prior to that, and he tells me he doesn't know how to answer me because "health" is such a vague word, I mean.. wut. This is what you are doing. I'm asking you a simple question and you are acting like it's so fucking hard to understand.

p-edit: Talah, you never answered me. You have yet to answer me.

Me: Do you think X is a scumtell?
You: Well what is X?
Me: X is what you said in this post.
You: I can't answer that because you didn't say what I said.
Me: I rephrased what you said because what you said had too many words, but essentially I want to know about you said, of course.
You: But I can't answer that because you didn't say what I said.
Me: Okay, but can you just answer about what YOU said?
You: No because you didn't say what I said.

:facepalm:

X(Spork) is what you said my X is. Which is not my X.

You said "jumping at shadows".
That's not the same as "jumping in and fucking up perfectly good townplay"

Vive la difference.

Snork · Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:51 am

And for the record, "Depends" is a non-answer. It does not answer the question definitively, which does not give me an impression of what Talah is using to find scum, if he's even bothering, which conveniently keeps him in a scumhunting grey zone.

There is ZERO town reasons to do this. Spending 2 pages arguing about semantics and word usage is scummy as fuck, and propagated BY TALAH refusing to answer a very simple question about his methods.

I don't know why I bother interacting with obvious scum. I need to stop doing that.

p-edit: Tell me how that makes any difference to what I want to know?

Mister Rogers · Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:52 am

@DV: What do you think about the Gundam Seed meta post I found? Why is there such a stark difference between town Talah there and Talah's play here?

Snork · Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:52 am

Actually,

please don't

.

I am completely finished talking to you.

ScumTalah can hang, please.

talah · Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:52 am

In post 1044, Snork wrote:
In post 1017, talah wrote:
In post 1016, Snork wrote:
In post 1015, Snork wrote:Talah, all I'm asking is if you feel that AP "jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course" is a valid scum tell or not.

This is somewhat frustrating.
This seriously only requires a 'Yes' or 'No' answer, which I haven't gotten yet, and that's why I'm dissatisfied.
No, you can clarify what you mean by paraphrasing it as "jumping at shadows".

Otherwise the answer is "possibly, depending on context"
Jesus christ. IN THE CONTEXT OF THE POST
YOU MADE ABOUT
AP
.

Fuck.

I already answered it.

It depends on the context.

If you're asking me if AP is scum, that's a different matter.

Why are you so stuck on this? I mean I already answered it a couple of posts after you asked.