Why Havo?
In post 857, Havo wrote: In post 842, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Fuck it.
I'm claiming Town Loyal Fruit Vendor and I visited Shoshin last night. She should have received fruit from me but she is saying she has no idea of anything. My action only fails if I target scum. Or if I was role-blocked which is highly unlikely.
PEdit - It wasn't the claim Tex - it was the posting in general.
Where's the Scum motivation for this?
BBT is claiming a provable role. What are the odds he got roleblocked? If he's scum, then he plans on claiming Roleblocked from here on out?
Why make this play as scum this early when Invisibility is at L-1?
My read on BBT has been towny and hasn't really changed. I believe the claim. I don't see how or why he would do this as scum.
So that means.............
Scum blocked him
or he was
possibly
Jail kept by another towny or Shoshin is
actually
scum.
What other scenarios are there for Town BBT to get no result?
His initial reaction to this is to say that BBT is town, his claim is town, and that means there's three possibilities - that scum blocked him, that he was jailkept, or that I'm scum. But the first one he lists is that scum blocked him, and he qualifies both other options with "possibly" and "actually," suggesting he doesn't believe these possibilities as much as the first one. There's the scent of an informed perspective underlying this response.
In post 861, Havo wrote:Okay, prior to BBT's claim.
The game state was really annoying with the arguing going on. I'm glad something has disrupted that tbh.
I'm leaning town on Mumble and my Shoshin read went from Almost Hard town on Day 1 to not so much throughout the day 2.
I still think Invisibility could easily flip scum, and most likely I would have hammered if that was still a possibility prior to BBT's claim.
Then he opportunistically changes his reads precisely in the way scum would if they knew BBT and I were both town. So while earlier he was townreading me and willing to lynch Mumble, now he's town on Mumble and open to lynching me, as he knows I'm the obvious lynch when BBT flips town. But he still wants Invisibility lynched. This will be more apparent to you guys when I flip town.
In post 862, Havo wrote: In post 860, Mumble wrote:
No, you're not.
In post 856, Shoshin wrote:BBT getting roleblocked makes a lot of sense with an Invisibility/Mumble team.
No, it doesn't. Why would scum with a RB roleblock an unknown slot versus a known PR? Makes no sense.
More likely, you are caught scum scrambling.
Is it possible BBT was Jailkept?
Really unnatural question to ask Mumble here. As if he knows I'm flipping town.
I'd lynch Havo on this basis alone, but if you look back at his posts throughout the game, they're pretty bad throughout.