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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:12 am
by AnonymousGhost
what makes you think i wanted you to change your mind? i just wanted you to play - the outcome wasn't the goal ;3p

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:22 am
by Gamma Emerald
you sounded like you were trying to defend the way you were interacting with me

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:24 am
by Firebringer
In post 1023, AnonymousGhost wrote:same difference~
i am scared of ur nails more.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:30 am
by AnonymousGhost
@gamma

not really

i apologize if i overstepped my boundaries and attacked you as a person though :(

im still annoyed at the lurkers/general thread activity, but im happy you got involved and couldn't care less about the result of our interaction cause that means i can go back and try to get a read on your alignment

cause yay! activity~

p-edit:

@fire

:3p

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:37 am
by Gamma Emerald
I didn't feel attacked in any sense outside of the game fyi

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:39 am
by AnonymousGhost
:thumbs up:

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:40 am
by Firebringer
what does this emoji mean.
i am unfamiliar with ti

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:42 am
by Gamma Emerald
its a cat

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:44 am
by AnonymousGhost
basically this

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btw refresh my memory

what was the progress of your aster read? BJ said it started out silly, but did it become a srs read between then and now?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:46 am
by Firebringer
it was a silly read. not a read really now it is a null/scum read.
but if i don't have any indepth analysis of disaster.

i don't really think disaster should be lynched today, but i kind of agree with ur analysis on disaster

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:48 am
by AnonymousGhost
ok

do your thoughts about Scum!Spring align with what Keyser has said about Springtrap in terms of scum reading 'em?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:51 am
by Firebringer
I have to read what keyser said.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:54 am
by Firebringer
In post 982, Keyser Söze wrote:Then Springtap votes BJ...
I feel like the Pint vote may have triggered something in Springtap (who has been closed guarded all game, he must have been feeling/thinking something but did not share it). This looks to me like a vote he ‘had’ to do (either the prime bus position, or survivalist vote ).

Springtap then gets lambasted for it from a few players. Swiftly unvotes:

“noticed I was being scummy, so now I'm being quiet and accepting that I'll have to be lynched before LyLo or MyLo but I'd rather not hurt town by being hung day 1.”

(Reeks of AtE)... then ends with a ‘ahhh BJ is town afterall’.

Yeah right.
Dont think spring was ateing but I think that post was scum aligned

I found other things in springs posts that was scummy in tone

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:58 am
by AnonymousGhost
which one?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:22 pm
by Nibbui
I think I can do either Fire, Keyser, Ceejay or Spring today

Mainly Ceejay to be honest, and if no one wants Ceejay that has been kinda sly, I can go to Spring.

Keyser or Fire would be a compromisse if no one posts a good case for they, because even if we try to lynch them, if they flip town, we'll not only have mislynched but will have kept alive unreadable or lurking slots.

VOTE: Spring

If someone changes vote to Ceejay I can go over there.

Honestly though? I don't think Spring is flipping scum here at all.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:23 pm
by Firebringer
In post 194, Springtrap wrote:
In post 185, pinturicchio wrote:By the way, I skipped the first discussion 'cause it seemed too early to be serious, but I'll read it now since, as I understand, it was serious for some players.

In other news, I didn't like BJs' entrance. The post was fine, I laughed, but seems like it was prepared before the game started. My problema with that is that it was a huge post and it's obvious that took a lot of effort. I tend to scumread people who puts that much of an effort on RVS; preparing a post before the game starts is past that line. Does someone else has another point of view about this?
Wouldn't it make more sense to call Gamma out for the RQS post for being pretty big and before the game even started? He put more effort in, IMO.
In post 1039, Nibbui wrote:I think I can do either Fire, Keyser, Ceejay or Spring today

Mainly Ceejay to be honest, and if no one wants Ceejay that has been kinda sly, I can go to Spring.

Keyser or Fire would be a compromisse if no one posts a good case for they, because even if we try to lynch them, if they flip town, we'll not only have mislynched but will have kept alive unreadable or lurking slots.

VOTE: Spring

If someone changes vote to Ceejay I can go over there.

Honestly though? I don't think Spring is flipping scum here at all.
hey i am not lurking

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:47 pm
by Nibbui
I didn't say you were Fire.

I said the opposite, that if we don't lynch Ceejay or Spring, if either you or Keyser doesn't flip scum, we'll be stuck with lurkish slots or unreadable ones like Spring, and that will keep being a bother because it'll be easy to say that Srping looks "scummy".

If there's not very good reasons to town read Spring or scum read one of you, maybe it's better to lynch there.

Ceejay sounds like real scum though.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:49 pm
by Nibbui
Still, Spring sounds more like town than scum to me.

I might be just being dumb honestly, I'm too easy on new players. (like I was with scum!Sashaddin in a newbie game)

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:43 pm
by pinturicchio
Sup, cunts

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:44 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Wagonomics

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:47 pm
by pinturicchio
There are four scumbags here guys, if you town yourself up this should be easy enough, we already have some associations. For example, I have nothing on spookycat, but I'm pretty sure he's scum with Springtrap. So can we lynch Springtrap and confirm my gut? That would obvtown Gamma too

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:50 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1045, pinturicchio wrote:There are four scumbags here guys, if you town yourself up this should be easy enough, we already have some associations. For example, I have nothing on spookycat, but I'm pretty sure he's scum with Springtrap. So can we lynch Springtrap and confirm my gut? That would obvtown Gamma too
Explain? I suspect spookycat but have no clue why people actually suspect Springtrap

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:54 pm
by pinturicchio
I'll come back tomorrow, I'm still pretty fragile after surgery.

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:58 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Get well soon, cos deadline approaches and finding a bridge between my thinking and the group think would be nice

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:16 pm
by Aster
In post 914, AnonymousGhost wrote:aster's my scum read. 393 pinged me as fluff, 3 null reads, and a potentially scummy read on Gamma
In post 992, Keyser Söze wrote:yeah maybe she does lack reads with more commitment: I feel like she should have a lean on either me or BJ by now
>_>

First of all: yes, post
does
contain three neutral reads. No, it's not secret; each player's read's final sentence summarised that. No, it was not due to lack of effort in case you were wondering. No, you did not make an amazing discovery by looking at the last sentences and ignoring the rest. (By the way, I prefer the term "neutral read" over nullread because "null" seems to imply you know nothing whereas "neutral" only implies that whatever you know does not point in the direction of town/scum.)

As I'm sure you've noticed [because the very post mentions it], the reason I posted reads on those four players was because I was directly asked to. As it happens, it actually took me over four hours to conclude those "nullreads". I read the entire thread over and then all concerned players' ISO's as well. My conclusion was that for three out of four players I could not sort them as either scum or town.

Now, if after four hours I couldn't sort them as either scum or town, why am I supposed to give anything but a neutral read on them?

I am not familar with anyone's meta here. I seem to lack this sense of "feel" that you all seem to have. I am not in the business of calling people town/scum based solely on the order they put their words in; giving "leans" based on insignificant data leads to confirmation bias and tunneling. I could not find anything that significantly indicates scum nor something that significantly indicates town, so I'm not going to try to force a read on them.

[/rant on mafiascum meta of assigning leans based on literally anything]

In post 815, Nibbui wrote:Look on Ceejay's ISO guys.

- He doesn't take a firm position on anyone
In post 868, AnonymousGhost wrote:Only one of your points in 815 is legit (joining the BlackJack wagon). the rest are just conf bias or differences in play style.
AnonymousGhost, in the above post you dismiss "doesn't take a firm position on anyone" as a valid scumtell. Yet somehow you seem to be pushing a bandwagon against me based on nothing but "doesn't take a firm position on anyone". It seems to me that you are unable to keep your scumtells straight and are just saying whatever happens to be convenient for you. Do I have to explain why this is scummy?

I still think we should lynch AnonymousGhost today. THE MEME MEN were already the scummiest bunch around and their replacement AnonymousGhost hasn't done anything to improve their position.

REVOTE: AnonymousGhost