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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:20 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 982, singletonking wrote:Sorry, wanted to reply yesterday but got too tired

My read on Kokichi is not really a meta read, it's mostly based on me reading his posts as disingenuous. The meta thing backs up my read on Kokichi because I have used this to correctly scumread Kokichi
Can you post the link? Because as I said people here have played with me more and gave no scumread on me

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:20 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 997, light_ganski wrote:though one of wisdom/kokichi could be scum. More likely kokichi
Why

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:17 pm
by Trekkie99
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:31 pm
by Trekkie99
In post 894, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Theta
While his CC was odd I really feel like we need to follow this other wise we set a bad precendent, plus if we’re wrong it says a lot about the setup
This lynch is unnecessary. If theta is town she will be killed soon enough by scum because of her claim, and if she's scum then we'll have a more concrete read on her if she's still alive in the next day or two because obviously scum can't kill their teammates (of course that is unless this is indeed multiball).

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:15 pm
by sheepsaysmeep
mostly caught up

purr not really doing anything while just lazy tunneling me is kinda bad

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:17 pm
by sheepsaysmeep
trekkie's villager feels like a new player villager sub catchup with how confident he is and stuff

also feels very contrasting to his recently completed wolf game where he was sort of derping/awkward/didnt know what to do https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77801

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:57 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 984, light_ganski wrote:
In post 972, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:P.edit. @ganski, your reads can’t be right if you have 3/4 of the neighbourhood as scum.
yh I realised this as I was doing it. either one of my weak scum options on this is town (which is why I would want to lynch in strong scum and try to get more info before lynching weak reads) OR have you considered the possibility (if this is multiball which I think is very likely) that the neighbourhood is structured like: 2 scum team A, 1 scum team B, 1 townie?
Well, I might if the neighbourhood didn’t seem like it was the only one in the game. It’s literally just called “neighbourhood” and nothing else, which leads me to believe that it really is just a neighbourhood. I have no idea how all of the neighbours were chosen - was it random or deliberate?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:09 pm
by Xtoxm
In post 984, light_ganski wrote:either one of my weak scum options on this is town
hi

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:09 pm
by singletonking
@Kokichi
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=77611
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=76573

I don't remember if I actually said I read your posts in that manner but I did feel those same vibes in those games

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:16 pm
by singletonking
But anyway,
UNVOTE: Kokichi
VOTE: Jaylow7

I want to support a wagon here first, I generally agreed that their first post was scummy, and they've done literally nothing ever since, even though they've been mod confirmed to exist.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:16 pm
by singletonking
@Wagonomics why am I still part of LurkerCoin?

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:29 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 966, Jaylow7 wrote:Apologies for the lack of posts.. a combination of holiday responsibilities (this year was my turn to host the yearly family gathering) and a dead computer got in the way. I'll have a largish catchup/reads post tonight after I get home from work and get the computer fixed.
I’ll be looking forward to this.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:41 am
by Purrcocet
In post 1020, light_ganski wrote:
In post 1017, Purrcocet wrote:sheep says MEEP is open wolf
Why have we not terminated?
Help me out here, why the sheep tunnel?

also what do you think of gamma?
sheep can just "idk but like anyway" his way thru the whole game

and his reads aren't real progressions they just change as convenient or are in some sort of void
the last flip should have made this evident



Gamma is ultra town trust me
bad wagon

We were scum partners in limbo and sso was kokichi
But Kokichi is WOLF
sheepsaysmeep wrote:mostly caught up

purr not really doing anything while just lazy tunneling me is kinda bad
this would be ok but ive been basically doing that all game and you had me as town in ur made up reads list
I guess ur gonna push back instead of just appealing to me
singletonking wrote:But anyway,
UNVOTE: Kokichi
VOTE: Jaylow7

I want to support a wagon here first, I generally agreed that their first post was scummy, and they've done literally nothing ever since, even though they've been mod confirmed to exist.
WOLF

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:55 am
by Kokichi Oma
In post 1037, Purrcocet wrote:But Kokichi is WOLF
Why am I wolf?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:38 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1037, Purrcocet wrote:
In post 1020, light_ganski wrote:
In post 1017, Purrcocet wrote:sheep says MEEP is open wolf
Why have we not terminated?
Help me out here, why the sheep tunnel?

also what do you think of gamma?
sheep can just "idk but like anyway" his way thru the whole game

and his reads aren't real progressions they just change as convenient or are in some sort of void
the last flip should have made this evident



Gamma is ultra town trust me
bad wagon

We were scum partners in limbo and sso was kokichi
But Kokichi is WOLF
sheepsaysmeep wrote:mostly caught up

purr not really doing anything while just lazy tunneling me is kinda bad
this would be ok but ive been basically doing that all game and you had me as town in ur made up reads list
I guess ur gonna push back instead of just appealing to me
singletonking wrote:But anyway,
UNVOTE: Kokichi
VOTE: Jaylow7

I want to support a wagon here first, I generally agreed that their first post was scummy, and they've done literally nothing ever since, even though they've been mod confirmed to exist.
WOLF
bruh I wouldn't recommend limbo as meta
I literally did the least I could that game on purpose

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:17 am
by light_ganski
In post 1026, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 997, light_ganski wrote:though one of wisdom/kokichi could be scum. More likely kokichi
Why
In post 1011, light_ganski wrote: Kokichi initially gets on potato quite late but sticks there even as most people back off
Would not be surprised if the other team (think this is multiball) were on varsoon as well early on which points to kokichi (his varsoon vote was weak iirc)
Out of kokichi and sheep kokichi is the more likely second scum on varsoon
And kokichi was pretty set on a mislynch later on
Plus whilst everyone was on the potato you're the one who sounds most like "this is an easy lynch let's go go go kill him now" rather that "i genuinely think he's scum"

Plus D1 you were active but did fuck all except tunnel potato and said a couple people sounded scummy and never followed them up as if you were only saying it to look productive

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:22 am
by light_ganski
In post 1028, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 894, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Theta
While his CC was odd I really feel like we need to follow this other wise we set a bad precendent, plus if we’re wrong it says a lot about the setup
This lynch is unnecessary. If theta is town she will be killed soon enough by scum because of her claim, and if she's scum then we'll have a more concrete read on her if she's still alive in the next day or two because obviously scum can't kill their teammates (of course that is unless this is indeed multiball).
xyzzy is the mod i'd be shocked if this isn't multiball

also theta doesn't cc as scum and is nothing like the game we were scum mates together anyway

also gamma is prob scum anyway

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:30 am
by Trekkie99
In post 1040, light_ganski wrote: Plus whilst everyone was on the potato you're the one who sounds most like "this is an easy lynch let's go go go kill him now" rather that "i genuinely think he's scum"

Plus D1 you were active but did fuck all except tunnel potato
and said a couple people sounded scummy and never followed them up as if you were only saying it to look productive
One of those people was cheekyteeky.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1042, Trekkie99 wrote:
In post 1040, light_ganski wrote: Plus whilst everyone was on the potato you're the one who sounds most like "this is an easy lynch let's go go go kill him now" rather that "i genuinely think he's scum"

Plus D1 you were active but did fuck all except tunnel potato
and said a couple people sounded scummy and never followed them up as if you were only saying it to look productive
One of those people was cheekyteeky.
so?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:36 am
by Trekkie99
In post 1041, light_ganski wrote:also theta doesn't cc as scum and is nothing like the game we were scum mates together anyway
Theta's cc doesn't really tell us what her alignment could be in any way IMO. I can't see a reason scum or town would counter claim so early in the game.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:37 am
by Trekkie99
So what?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:37 am
by Trekkie99
In post 1045, Trekkie99 wrote:
So what?
Cheekyteeky was killed and was town.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:39 am
by Gamma Emerald
are you making the point he wouldn't have killed his scumread?

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:44 am
by light_ganski
In post 1037, Purrcocet wrote: sheep can just "idk but like anyway" his way thru the whole game

and his reads aren't real progressions they just change as convenient or are in some sort of void
the last flip should have made this evident
Like i just re iso'd him and

I don't see it

His read on potato was shit but everyone's read on potato was shit, and he wasn't gagging for the mislynch in the way that, say, kokichi was

and he was the only person to actually try and keep pressure on varsoon

his jaylow vote today is ehhhhhhh but I get it from the pov of trying to pressure the guy into posting something relevant

and his reads look reasonably natural :neutral:

In post 1037, Purrcocet wrote: Gamma is ultra town trust me
bad wagon

We were scum partners in limbo and sso was kokichi
:neutral:

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:55 am
by Trekkie99
In post 1047, Gamma Emerald wrote:are you making the point he wouldn't have killed his scumread?
There are a million possibilities for why scum!kokichi would have wanted cheekyteeky dead. I decided to keep it short, and simply state facts, and pair them with the point of view that kokichi could be scum.