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Hectic

(1): clidd

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(5): Hectic, Kanna, Ame, Slaxx, Luca Blight

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Isn't three the normal of this setup ? Ame didn't claim, but she seems obvious to me.

trainee "trainee" trainee again

In post 1026, clidd wrote:Isn't three

PRs

the normal of this setup ? Ame didn't claim, but she seems obvious

town

to me.

why do you think 3 PRs are normal for this setup? what reason do you have to believe that?

agreed on the Detective!

He meant Kanna. I claimed VT

One of the VT claims is scum and is a jail keeper. We lynch the VTs systematically.

Hectic is most likely the jail keeper as he crummed it a couple of times Day 1 (using the term lock them up). Additionally, he directed Kanna to investigate him which is a sign of scum showmanship (LAMIST as it's known here). His asking Kanna if she investigated him at the start of today is also apart of that (An attempt to play ignorant at the fact that she was roleblocked, while making it appear he is a townie who would have been innod).

There's no need for discussion. Let's proceed.

VOTE: Hectic

How do you know there’s a JK?

Also apologies ddl. Hectic has an insane ability to alter everything about his meta which threw me off. I knew he was scum in a game that was ongoing and now finished and couldn't see his completely different play here (reckless and making cases as opposed to reserved and inquisitive) as coming from the same alignment. He's just a mastermind though.

@Luca 2 reasons:

1. There was a no kill N1. The only alternative to this is BP (which hasn't been claimed, also I haven't checked if that's a normal role) or someone simply forgetting to submit a kill. The only person that could have been is Compath who is now confirmed. So scum likely no killed to gain credibility on their role, but once we started speculating that the protector and gunsmith couldn't both be town, they had to change up their strategy and claim VT.

2. Kanna is still alive. Meaning she is either scum or roleblocked. The former is less likely than the latter given her approach.

Additionally, as I said, Hectic crumbed it D1. I believe he fully intended to eventually come out as jailkeep but had to change it up after all the claims.

Seems fair, although scum doctor is still more likely imo.

Clidd is Vanilla btw so probably Town.

There is definitely need for discussion. We want to see what Kanna has first.

Now I'm confused.

trainee "trainee" trainee thinks it might be time to retire

In post 1030, Ame wrote:Also apologies ddl. Hectic has an insane ability to alter everything about his meta which threw me off. I knew he was scum in a game that was ongoing and now finished and couldn't see his completely different play here (reckless and making cases as opposed to reserved and inquisitive) as coming from the same alignment. He's just a mastermind though.

this sounds like you're pushing an agenda all of a sudden. why are you assuming i'm able to masterfully adapt my meta rather than just being a civilian here? what happened to your confidence yesterday of me being a civilian even if the Doctor flipped a civilian?

and no, we weren't crumbing Jailkeeper

The Force doesn't lynch people; they imprison them

In post 1034, clidd wrote:Now I'm confused.

Let's not have a repeat. Just listen to me this time.

In post 1024, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee is inquisitive!

In post 1021, clidd wrote:So Luca and Kanna are

PR

, Slaxx is

inno

, Ame strong

town

and Hectic

scum

.

Game solved.

why are Luca and Ame cleared by virtue of being Power Roles? why can't they be fakeclaiming?

Speaking of agendas.

trainee "trainee" trainee is really hoping now that Kanna can pull through

In post 1028, Ame wrote:Hectic is most likely the jail keeper as he crummed it a couple of times Day 1 (using the term lock them up). Additionally, he directed Kanna to investigate him which is a sign of scum showmanship (LAMIST as it's known here). His asking Kanna if she investigated him at the start of today is also apart of that (An attempt to play ignorant at the fact that she was roleblocked, while making it appear he is a townie who would have been innod).

sigh, or maybe we really are an ignorant civilian that were hoping Kanna cleared us? you're really twisting our actions to look as bad as possible

give The Force some time to look over things if we are today's imprisonment. we want to reexamine the Detective's play this game

trainee "trainee" trainee responding to a lot queries today

In post 1037, Ame wrote:

In post 1024, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee is inquisitive!

In post 1021, clidd wrote:So Luca and Kanna are

PR

, Slaxx is

inno

, Ame strong

town

and Hectic

scum

.

Game solved.

why are Luca and Ame cleared by virtue of being Power Roles? why can't they be fakeclaiming?

Speaking of agendas.

this wasn't to put doubt on the Power Roles; this was to question clidd to see whether his thoughts were genuine

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Even if Kanna came back with an inno I’d still suspect Hectic of being a scum Doctor, so on that basis:

VOTE: Hectic

L1

In post 1039, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee responding to a lot queries today

In post 1037, Ame wrote:

In post 1024, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee is inquisitive!

In post 1021, clidd wrote:So Luca and Kanna are

PR

, Slaxx is

inno

, Ame strong

town

and Hectic

scum

.

Game solved.

why are Luca and Ame cleared by virtue of being Power Roles? why can't they be fakeclaiming?

Speaking of agendas.

this wasn't to put doubt on the Power Roles; this was to question clidd to see whether his thoughts were genuine

trainee "trainee" trainee feels betrayed by this town

In post 1040, Luca Blight wrote:Even if Kanna came back with an inno I’d still suspect Hectic of being a scum Doctor, so on that basis:

VOTE: Hectic

L1

wow, really? so i'm a lawbreaker no matter what happens? i'm glad Officer "Officer" Officer is off duty so doesn't have to see this

In post 1040, Luca Blight wrote:scum Doctor

He'd still have a gun in this case wouldn't here or... ohhhh wow I forgot it was flavor based I've completely been working on the assumption that scum would turn up guilty regardless of their role. Ok yeah he is scum in either case.

trainee "trainee" trainee has never flipped on a civilian read so quickly

In post 983, Ame wrote:If DDL town and Kanna lives, we lynch Kanna. If not, we lynch Clidd. If the game is still going at that point, it's between Luca and Compath sided toward Luca. Under no circumstances do we lynch Ame, Slaxx, or Hectic. I repeat: DO. NOT. LYNCH. HECTIC.

In post 994, Ame wrote:He's so blatantly town it hurts. So reckless no self preservation image protection

In post 1028, Ame wrote:He meant Kanna. I claimed VT

One of the VT claims is scum and is a jail keeper. We lynch the VTs systematically.

Hectic is most likely the jail keeper as he crummed it a couple of times Day 1 (using the term lock them up). Additionally, he directed Kanna to investigate him which is a sign of scum showmanship (LAMIST as it's known here). His asking Kanna if she investigated him at the start of today is also apart of that (An attempt to play ignorant at the fact that she was roleblocked, while making it appear he is a townie who would have been innod).

There's no need for discussion. Let's proceed.

VOTE: Hectic

In post 1030, Ame wrote:Also apologies ddl. Hectic has an insane ability to alter everything about his meta which threw me off. I knew he was scum in a game that was ongoing and now finished and couldn't see his completely different play here (reckless and making cases as opposed to reserved and inquisitive) as coming from the same alignment. He's just a mastermind though.

In post 1031, Ame wrote:@Luca 2 reasons:

1. There was a no kill N1. The only alternative to this is BP (which hasn't been claimed, also I haven't checked if that's a normal role) or someone simply forgetting to submit a kill. The only person that could have been is Compath who is now confirmed. So scum likely no killed to gain credibility on their role, but once we started speculating that the protector and gunsmith couldn't both be town, they had to change up their strategy and claim VT.

2. Kanna is still alive. Meaning she is either scum or roleblocked. The former is less likely than the latter given her approach.

Additionally, as I said, Hectic crumbed it D1. I believe he fully intended to eventually come out as jailkeep but had to change it up after all the claims.

if we are imprisoned today, then the Corrupt Detective should be tomorrow; this is not a natural flip of opinion on my alignment

i'd like to hear what changed your mind so drastically, Ame

trainee "trainee" trainee with some words of advice

i repeat: please imprison Ame tomorrow. if it's not her, it's Pirate Clidd. this should win the game

Knight Luca, Souvenir Slaxx, and Kanime Kanna are all upstanding citizens

ddl's VT claim is what changed my mind. As indicated here. I was actually going to voice this opinion yesterday and was in the process of working it out before Slaxx lolhammered.

In post 1036, Ame wrote:

In post 1034, clidd wrote:Now I'm confused.

Let's not have a repeat. Just listen to me this time.

That' what im doing, but I am not able to clearly understand these logical lines with roles that I have never played before.

trainee "trainee" trainee reconsidering

In post 1032, Luca Blight wrote:Clidd is Vanilla btw so probably Town.

hang on, i think a Encrytor + Goon team would be quite underpowered if all the other PRs are civilians so on this basis Clidd is probably a civilian

it's Corrupt Detective Ame, with an outside chance of Dark Knight Luca being a lawbreaker rolecop who's been honest with checks

In post 1047, clidd wrote:

In post 1036, Ame wrote:

In post 1034, clidd wrote:Now I'm confused.

Let's not have a repeat. Just listen to me this time.

That' what im doing, but I am not able to clearly understand these logical lines with roles that I have never played before.

You can ignore the jailkeeper idea, I didn't realize that simply being Doctor would bring an inno result. But basically Hectic prodding Kanna to investigate him is strongly indicative that he is scum who was aiming to be cleared. As town, even though you know you're going to be inno it would be natural to want her to use it on someone else who actually has a possibility of being scum.