In post 1003, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:I mean I'm looking at this game from an abstract point of view and trying to assess this game is just something isn't adding up
Also can you elaborate on this? what isn't adding up specifically?
The fact that days are being rushed thru. Or so it seems. Why Walrus can't be scum at this point of time and XYZ. Maybe I'm just asking the questions that don't have answers but Its just mind boggling.
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:57 pm
by Datisi
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:42 am
by 72offsuit
The vote on me by walrus without stating its l-1 is bad.
Walrus lack of response re my iso is bad
Elmos lack of response to what she agrees or disagrees with my reads on likely scum in walrus is bad.
Mena not having found scum and wanting to hammer me as per clidds BoP cage is bad.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:44 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
In post 1027, 72offsuit wrote:Elmos lack of response to what she agrees or disagrees with my reads on likely scum in walrus is bad.
Repost your reads my dear. It wasn't intentional to ignore them I promise.
In post 294, WizenedWalrus wrote:terminology and abbreviations everyone is using here are foreign to me
What terms?
terms like: SSS, PoE, etc. and also how to read stuff like (term)!(term) -- I kinda guess based on the color coding, but not really sure how you're supposed to parse that. I think there were a few more things in the rules as I was skimming through them, but can't remember off the top of my head.
I've skimmed through the thread, and to be honest I feel pretty lost. I've played a few online mafia/werewolf games at another site, but this is my first game here, and the terminology and abbreviations everyone is using here are foreign to me, so I'll take a while to adjust I imagine.
Looking at the setup notes, it doesn't look like it's possible to have masons and another flavor of power townie in the game at the same time, or am I misunderstanding the table?
Off to a meeting, but will get back to re-reading over lunch.
1. I still find this playing-the-noob-card entrance post scummy
2. Might seem silly, but I find feeling the need to justify one's presence/absence scummy.
In post 305, WizenedWalrus wrote:For the moment, I'll go with VOTE: Elmo TeH AzN: as others have pointed out, she seemed to get unduly flustered by Menalque's SR of her.
Not liking the "for the moment" wording. You can hardly genuinely build pressure on a scumtarget when you are letting them know ahead of time that its "only for the moment".
You're right of course, about it being bad that we've leaked information about the setup to the baddies. Now they know what sort of power townies they have to deal with, and will plan accordingly.
However, it didn't seem to me that you were reacting to the information leak, but rather to the fact that the finger was being pointed at you. I could possibly have misread though, I've been speed-reading/skimming everything to try and catch up. I'll go back and reread.
Feels like fence sitting here. "Could possibly have a misread". Scummy as can later justify changing a "read" on Elmo from scum to town or vice versa as convenient later on.
Isn't the point of the game to solve it? Why wouldn't we start on day one?
Super serious tone to this post, which I find to be LAMISTY and thus scummy
In 765
So, where does a baddie stick their partner in this list? Along with himself, clidd, atarashi, wizened, icon, or with doobie, elmo, menalque?
Information instead of analysis. Looks like he is trying to appear to be scumhunting but does not actually state where he thinks Lotus/Lootz/Jorm would fit their scum partner on the "reads" list
In post 1027, 72offsuit wrote:Elmos lack of response to what she agrees or disagrees with my reads on likely scum in walrus is bad.
Repost your reads my dear. It wasn't intentional to ignore them I promise.
So what are your current reads Elmo?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:58 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
A tl;dr would have sufficed
Right now
Me
You
Menal - I don't like the early end of the day. Its bothering me we have plenty of time.
Atarshi (Waiting for the Walrus explanation)
Walrus - I want to hear more. Even going back to what you said the VCA and recap in the first real post they did just was yeah.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:22 am
by WizenedWalrus
Yeah, no need to rush.
UNVOTE: for now. FoS on 72.
I should have a little time to give a full read of everyone after my morning meetings. Hard to see past 72 at the moment, due to the clidd kill (who had all but cleared him), which also appeared designed to point the finger of suspicion at doobie (the only a noob would not kill the mason argument).
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:49 am
by Menalque
I just don't really wanna try to solve today because I think it's just gonna mess with me
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:50 am
by Menalque
I don't really read 72 as town, I don't wanna out the mason if that's still possible
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:52 am
by Menalque
like if we make it to tomorrow and the mason is alive then the game is a lock as far as I'm concerned
72 is just a liability to be mislynched in lylo at this point so we resolve that and then go from there tomorrow if the game doesn't end
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:04 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
Right now I feel walrus is just skating by at least how it looks even looking at the iso its just like taking everything at face value
I should have a little time to give a full read of everyone after my morning meetings. Hard to see past 72 at the moment, due to the clidd kill (who had all but cleared him), which also appeared designed to point the finger of suspicion at doobie (the only a noob would not kill the mason argument).
Why unvote now if ypu scumread me sp heavily?
Ive already claimed.
Dont you townread Mena? Are you worried he will quickhammer?
Ico was obsessed with doobie. I thought it was elmo yesterday. Ico wouldnt budge. I hated BPs entrance to the game. So i stopped trying to convince ico to change, given i thougjt there was a decrnt chance doobie was scum.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:28 am
by 72offsuit
In post 1035, Menalque wrote:like if we make it to tomorrow and the mason is alive then the game is a lock as far as I'm concerned
72 is just a liability to be mislynched in lylo at this point so we resolve that and then go from there tomorrow if the game doesn't end
The odds of mason surviving r pretty shit.
Its not me and its not u. Aint a whole lot of ppl left who could b mason
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:32 am
by Menalque
I mean 50/50 chance of winning mechanically tomorrow seems like a pretty good gamble
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:34 am
by Menalque
like if you do flip town and it's (1scum, 1vt, 1mason) in (WW, Elmo, atar) then if scum have a 50/50 chance of hitting the mason
if they decide to kill me instead of mason hunting then the mason outs and has a 50/50 chance of voting right tomorrow
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:35 am
by Menalque
if they hit the mason tonight then I have to choose tomorrow and I'd rather not be making that choice with you still in the game because it's gonna be a fucking nightmare trying to decide if you're scum who's made it to the end or town brought along to be the mislynch
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:35 am
by Menalque
do you not understand why you're the best lynch today @72?
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:43 am
by 72offsuit
No. Because we have 2 scumbuckets in elmo and walrus.
And we have u who r playing too scummy to b scum and u still hvent found scum. Clidds BoP. Unwerent votinng lootz and now u state intent to lynch me.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:44 am
by 72offsuit
If Clidd correctly read me as town despite me manipulating him as scum previously, i tjink thats pretty telling that im tpwn
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:48 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
In post 1044, 72offsuit wrote:If Clidd correctly read me as town despite me manipulating him as scum previously, i tjink thats pretty telling that im tpwn
A person who died N1 tells someone they are town. I mean its also day one. Yes I have you as a town read and granted just because someone else sees you as one doesn't mean we will all agree to this
In post 1041, Menalque wrote:if they hit the mason tonight then I have to choose tomorrow and I'd rather not be making that choice with you still in the game because it's gonna be a fucking nightmare trying to decide if you're scum who's made it to the end or town brought along to be the mislynch
Um since when are you a cleared town? How do we know you aren't playing us for a fool and just taking us along for a ride. It seems like we're all just following you. Yet no one is questioning you at all. And I get meta this and meta that but meta can be changed.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:49 am
by 72offsuit
Your shitty intent to hammer so early is scummy as.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:51 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
Completely understandable. But have you modded games here? And had to seek multi replacements it gets tiring.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:52 am
by 72offsuit
In post 1040, Menalque wrote:like if you do flip town and it's (1scum, 1vt, 1mason) in (WW, Elmo, atar) then if scum have a 50/50 chance of hitting the mason
if they decide to kill me instead of mason hunting then the mason outs and has a 50/50 chance of voting right tomorrow
Wtf r u talking abput.
Regardless of alignment u will be in the 3 wY lylo.