Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 6:03 pm
Dr P vote trends:
138 Sheeps Oka post on QQ. Gives no reason for the vote. Could be considered RVS. This seems fine.
252 Sheeps Oka again, this time on Ico. Not RVS. Reads Ico as scummy in 255.
471 Reads me, Oka and Dats as town. At this point I've been focussing in on Kanna, who they consider null-town.
652 Has pressure on them by people (but only 1 vote). V1.10 has DrP and Kanna both on Ico. Flips now to QQ, agreeing with Ico (who they had been butting heads with) and sheeping their vote, despite still reading them as scum. This is bizarre and appears to be a peace pipe extended to Ico to get heat off them.
664 Flips BACK to Ico, after Ico picks up how bizarre their sheeping of the vote on QQ is.
704 Flips BACK AGAIN to QQ, after Ico believes they're death tunnelling DrP.
787 Flips onto me, then claims it's opportunistic when I've made a case against them. This is OMGUS, but most importantly, in 1.13, Kanna is sitting at L-1. Dr then drills in at me, citing 761 as hugely scummy. The consequence of this is the attention focussed on me see's DrP attract votes again to L-2, but significantly, Kanna is dropped to only having 1 vote. In my mind, it was a diversion and done, I believe, specifically to get votes off Kanna.
A few things.
There's no case on QQ, but they keep slipping back. QQ's wagon is an odd one and you can easily claim if they were mislynched that their play style made them an obvious choice as they weren't contributing. This argument actually has legitimacy - we don't know WTF QQ is doing and thus, any lynch on them is done with a lot of hope and would result in a lot of confusion and abdicating responsibility since the slot is unusual. This is a perfect hiding spot for scum.
Secondly, the flip back into Ico is easy. He also makes an interesting statement in 295:
I also think Ico is townread by enough people that it's
The flip to me is, IMHO, because I've seen both Dr and Kanna as scum based play and they are working to buffer each other. Dr townreads Kanna in 155 (as well as Oka). The persistence on Ico (and in my opinion is, although I'm happy to hear contrasting statements) a response to Ico's scumread of Kanna in 368, as around then was when Dr and Ico were starting to smash in to each other. It wasn't the start, but from that point on it was bristling engagement with each other for many pages. Dr continues to read Kanna nullish town in 471 (and Kanna returns with town read on Dr in 601, which Dr responds to in 616). The read on Kanna is 'they're taking unpopular stances' (817) and that is it.
This is why I think Dr is not town. It adds also to my suspicion that Kanna is also not town.
I am happy to flip flop on Kanna or Dr today to gain a lynch. These will be the only slots I vote for today though. This does not mean I read the rest of you town. Just that I believe Kanna and Dr's actions make me believe they are scum.
138 Sheeps Oka post on QQ. Gives no reason for the vote. Could be considered RVS. This seems fine.
252 Sheeps Oka again, this time on Ico. Not RVS. Reads Ico as scummy in 255.
471 Reads me, Oka and Dats as town. At this point I've been focussing in on Kanna, who they consider null-town.
652 Has pressure on them by people (but only 1 vote). V1.10 has DrP and Kanna both on Ico. Flips now to QQ, agreeing with Ico (who they had been butting heads with) and sheeping their vote, despite still reading them as scum. This is bizarre and appears to be a peace pipe extended to Ico to get heat off them.
664 Flips BACK to Ico, after Ico picks up how bizarre their sheeping of the vote on QQ is.
704 Flips BACK AGAIN to QQ, after Ico believes they're death tunnelling DrP.
787 Flips onto me, then claims it's opportunistic when I've made a case against them. This is OMGUS, but most importantly, in 1.13, Kanna is sitting at L-1. Dr then drills in at me, citing 761 as hugely scummy. The consequence of this is the attention focussed on me see's DrP attract votes again to L-2, but significantly, Kanna is dropped to only having 1 vote. In my mind, it was a diversion and done, I believe, specifically to get votes off Kanna.
A few things.
There's no case on QQ, but they keep slipping back. QQ's wagon is an odd one and you can easily claim if they were mislynched that their play style made them an obvious choice as they weren't contributing. This argument actually has legitimacy - we don't know WTF QQ is doing and thus, any lynch on them is done with a lot of hope and would result in a lot of confusion and abdicating responsibility since the slot is unusual. This is a perfect hiding spot for scum.
Secondly, the flip back into Ico is easy. He also makes an interesting statement in 295:
This is actually also true. But it also means they know QQ is a safe bet given the oddity on the slot. They also know if they death tunnel one player, they can simply claim they were tunnelled and use that as an excuse to sit behind if their slot is every questioned.Wouldn't scum have more reason to be consistent because they know the game state?
I also think Ico is townread by enough people that it's
an easy slot to focus on
without consequence since other players appear unlikely to lynch Ico at this point. The flip to me is, IMHO, because I've seen both Dr and Kanna as scum based play and they are working to buffer each other. Dr townreads Kanna in 155 (as well as Oka). The persistence on Ico
could be
This is why I think Dr is not town. It adds also to my suspicion that Kanna is also not town.
I am happy to flip flop on Kanna or Dr today to gain a lynch. These will be the only slots I vote for today though. This does not mean I read the rest of you town. Just that I believe Kanna and Dr's actions make me believe they are scum.
