In post 366, popopopopopopo wrote:when did i say i was anxious, i just wanted more posts. this is the last time i will address this nonsensical inquiry.
your approach to expressing that desire for more posts instead of engaging the people you wanted more posts from still seems illogical to me. how is my inquiring into this nonsensical?
Hmm I actually don't think it's strong enough to eliminate, but I think it's less likely than not. But actually it looks like Inu is the only living player that popop has not voiced an opinion on or initiated an interaction with. So this pairing is possible.
@popo what is your read on Inu and what is the reasoning behind it?
In post 1018, Porkens wrote:Sorry just to clarify; are you saying that you don’t lynch a claimed PR without a Cc except when they are as scummy as Bugs?
I have and I would. I'm waiting to see if bugs does anything to change my read while poking on pox7
Who has decided to be as invisible as bug is in this game.
Well there is another time I voted a PR claim that wasn't CC but something didn't add up with the claim or target.
Are you saying you don't lynch a claimed PR or never have?
No I have and would hammer a claimed PR in CCd if I thought or felt they were scum.
In post 1020, farside22 wrote:Follow up to Pork: Do you really see anything town about bug?
No; too scummy to be scum would be the only thing. I guess I have a sliiiight empathy for mishammering as town but I will hammer bug If they get in range.
I think I was confused by the bolder part of your post below:
In post 1009, Porkens wrote:So would you say it makes more sense to lynch in or out of PRs today?
If I were to pick one I would say Bug only because so far he hasn't done anything to change my impression of him.
Sense lynching a claimed pr????? The only time I think about doing that is with a CC, a game that is role madness or if something doesn't make sense.
Played a mini recently that had 2 miller claims and an IC. This was all on day 1. The CC I legit felt was town but the player that claimed read town to me so I looked elsewhere. Most disagreed and I could see too many would WIFOM the claim with the CC. So lynched the claimed miller even though I felt he was town.
I was right he was town and so was the CC. So nothing to me is ever really that simple.
Ultimately it's about does that player read as scummy.
With bug? Yes.
With Ame? No
With GG? I'm leaning on no.
Not sure why the bold is confusing. I continued with the bottom saying if a player is scummy the pr means nothing.
I was trying to remember times ive lynched a claimed pr.
Im really not sure what the point of this conversation is.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
In post 1022, inutile wrote:how did you eliminate the rest of the combinations?
Mainly I just think Pork and Gobbles are town. But I suppose there is a possibility one of them could be scum with bugs. I'll go into why I think they are town before voting.
Something about someone agreeing with your idea that HEM/HG was scum theatre. It may have been someone else. Pork maybe. Aaand some butterflies just crashlanded on the roof mating or fighting? idk but one left and the other is just twitching about and it's kind of disturbing
the swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
wonderfullest things are ever the unmentionable; deep memories yield no epitaphs;
it then — it — abandon of the impersonal — of the infini-
tive — at last resigned — to embody — with flesh in pain
— to embody like the thumbnail — it then
There's no way scum!Gobbles makes this post in the middle of all that.
God, I got the exact opposite impresarion From that
I mean unless bugs is scum. But if town, then scum!Gobbles wouldn't redirect attention away from you. It shows that his read is genuine.
Your post there indicates that your bugs push is coming from a sincere place. It is possible, however, that this sincerity comes from the interaction being SvS. So if we are in a town!bugs scenario, then you are town in my book, which means you can't be scum with anyone other than bugs. However, working through this, it occured to me that you are not scum with bugs either because I agree with Inu in that there's probably not just 1 PR, so you can be eliminated from the PoE completely.
In post 1035, Ame wrote:@Inu may I have your opinion on the above assessment?
i agree that they are pretty unlikely to be partners but i don't really agree with the logic that it can't be scum!gobbles and town!bugspray you presented. the post you're saying gobbledygook is town for making feels out of place to me in a 'i am pushing this right now for the sake of pushing it' sort of way. he wasn't really participating in what was going on with porkens which could inform his read and instead was simply pushing bugspray.
the swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
wonderfullest things are ever the unmentionable; deep memories yield no epitaphs;
it then — it — abandon of the impersonal — of the infini-
tive — at last resigned — to embody — with flesh in pain
— to embody like the thumbnail — it then
Sorry farside, I can’t parse that sentence that starts with Sense...???????. The only point of the conversation is for me to make sure I understand what you are saying, which I believe I do now? IE let’s lynch PR claims that aren’t town.
In post 1036, inutile wrote:the post you're saying gobbledygook is town for making feels out of place to me in a 'i am pushing this right now for the sake of pushing it' sort of way. he wasn't really participating in what was going on with porkens which could inform his read and instead was simply pushing bugspray.
right so he doesn't believe the claim but then just continues to push bugspray. like he's not using the information to inform his read he's just continuing to push bugspray.
the swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
wonderfullest things are ever the unmentionable; deep memories yield no epitaphs;
it then — it — abandon of the impersonal — of the infini-
tive — at last resigned — to embody — with flesh in pain
— to embody like the thumbnail — it then
the swans, in discouragement, have migrated from the poisonous lakes this evening
wonderfullest things are ever the unmentionable; deep memories yield no epitaphs;
it then — it — abandon of the impersonal — of the infini-
tive — at last resigned — to embody — with flesh in pain
— to embody like the thumbnail — it then
In post 1037, Porkens wrote:Sorry farside, I can’t parse that sentence that starts with Sense...???????. The only point of the conversation is for me to make sure I understand what you are saying, which I believe I do now? IE let’s lynch PR claims that aren’t town.
Ah. You asked me if ut made sense to lynch a claimed pr and i started by saying sense lynching a claimed pr?
I sometimes type the way my brain thinks and i was processing the question trying to remember the times i did.
Ive been told my posts read really back most times
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
In post 1039, inutile wrote:right so he doesn't believe the claim but then just continues to push bugspray. like he's not using the information to inform his read he's just continuing to push bugspray.
Yes! So under what circumstance would scum!Gobbles assume that the claim was a lie and continue to push bugs? If Pork was his scummate or if bugs was his scummate. The latter isn't the case because of then only 1 PR, and the former isn't the case because of how Gobbles reacted. "OK so let's lynch bugs" is not a scummate reaction! It's a town tunnel reaction.
I don't think scum!Farsi joins the Exemplar wagon with scum!popo in 264. Her progression reads natural. So does the phrase poking pox in 1019
Farsi + popo
Farside wasn't on Porkens game entrance scumometer. Hm. Farsi's scum read of Pork disappears without a comment and she indirectly defends him in 577. I think Inu mentioned this earlier. Hm. Farsi also defends him in 655. And there is a contradiction here:
In post 384, popopopopopopo wrote:anyone think its weird he claimed 1 shot hider then said after he was weak, but like it was already implied in his claim
maybe scum gobble thought hiders were weak by default and did not know he had to fake claim the weak moderator, he thought it was inherent in the role. so he thought he did not have to claim weak in order for us to know this. could be a scumslip.
I'd let this go. See what happens. I think if gg is what he claimed it is a benefit for town. I see no reason to lynch him based on how he claimed.
In post 655, farside22 wrote:I don't see this as an overreaction. Im not sure why you do. Hider when town can hurt a game. Porks is right, now that gg outted his ability and he claims a target if that player is town and scum know ut thats 2 dead town players.
@Farsi can you clear this up?
Farside + Porky*
Pork was just ahead of the curve (behind Farsi and Gobbs) in scumreading bugs. At the point of his read, I don't think bugs was on the chopping block so his position looks natural. Porky also put bugs at L-1 today and claimed that if bugs flipped scum I would be clear. If they were scum together, this would unnecessarily be clearing me.
That should be bad not back.
I'm also very bad at previewing before posting.
In post 1046, Ame wrote:I don't think scum!Farsi joins the Exemplar wagon with scum!popo in 264. Her progression reads natural. So does the phrase poking pox in 1019
Farsi + popo
Farside wasn't on Porkens game entrance scumometer. Hm. Farsi's scum read of Pork disappears without a comment and she indirectly defends him in 577. I think Inu mentioned this earlier. Hm. Farsi also defends him in 655. And there is a contradiction here:
In post 384, popopopopopopo wrote:anyone think its weird he claimed 1 shot hider then said after he was weak, but like it was already implied in his claim
maybe scum gobble thought hiders were weak by default and did not know he had to fake claim the weak moderator, he thought it was inherent in the role. so he thought he did not have to claim weak in order for us to know this. could be a scumslip.
I'd let this go. See what happens. I think if gg is what he claimed it is a benefit for town. I see no reason to lynch him based on how he claimed.
In post 655, farside22 wrote:I don't see this as an overreaction. Im not sure why you do. Hider when town can hurt a game. Porks is right, now that gg outted his ability and he claims a target if that player is town and scum know ut thats 2 dead town players.
@Farsi can you clear this up?
Farside + Porky*
Pork was just ahead of the curve (behind Farsi and Gobbs) in scumreading bugs. At the point of his read, I don't think bugs was on the chopping block so his position looks natural. Porky also put bugs at L-1 today and claimed that if bugs flipped scum I would be clear. If they were scum together, this would unnecessarily be clearing me.
pork + bugs
I feel like I already explained this twice.
Sigh.
My first gut response to Porks vote was it read scummy. Then I thought about pork as a player and what I recalled how he played in a game I modded. I felt that his play didn't make sense and I wondered after everything said in done if he was trolling or doing a reaction test.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.
The contradiction that I'm referring to is your treatment of Gobble's claim. You expressed to popo that his claim was a positive, but when you defended Pork, you said pork was right that it was a negative.
