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In post 1022, PlusJOYED wrote:a townie SE reaction

In post 1023, shellyc wrote:

In post 1020, Frogsterking wrote:I think plus's comments at e-0 definitely imply some kind of intent, as though she was aware the game was not over, regardless of AI. Otherwise I don't believe it makes sense for her to have continued posting in the way that she had. She did not emotionally react to the hammer in my opinion, though I'll need to reread it. It seems like town!plus in that situation might have pointed out that she was not dead. I think that plus attempting to theater in that situation is not entirely AI either even if we could prove it was theater. I would be hammering plus because it makes more sense not because she theatered in that situation.

this is just fence-sitting: "imply intent" "did not emotionally react" but "not entirely AI"

In post 1022, PlusJOYED wrote:I've said basically all I've had to day about the me/shelly situation
at this point. There are 2 posts that I'd like to bring attention to that were really scummy but I think flew under most peoples radar in the heat of the moment that I think are worth looking at again.

First:

In post 542, 72offsuit wrote:UNVOTE: PlusJOYED

I dont buy the claim.

1. Total scumbucket, so i think its extremely likely just scum role fishing and trying to avert their lynch.

2. No PR is that ready to out themselves at the drop if a hat, especially not when:
A) a player requested for no hammers
B) we have replacements incoming
C) request for a claim came from their scumread
D) request came from a player who was already on their wagon And unable to actually hammer

Unvoting until replacements in.

This and the post after, despite my imperfect play here (I was feeling really pressured as nearly every player had expressed a SR on me), from a logical perspective, eliming me here before shelly counter claimed makes 0 fucking sense considering TFN is a provable role. They unvoted, but didn't even flinch or reconsider their SR on me at all, and a tunnel like that (an incorrect one at that) does not befit a townie SE reaction. This is very odd to me and pretty scummy.

Secondly ...

In post 736, Frogsterking wrote:I'm also not interested in hearing from the replacement slot for this same reason. I'll townread anyone who helps me quickhammer PLUS.

This, for obvious reasons, is a super scummy mindset. Townpasses are not just thrown out to people who do what you want, and limiting discussion here sounds like a bad idea. It's either a townie misplay (possible) or a big scumslip (also possible).

In post 1016, shellyc wrote:im just ignoring plusjoy's posts at this point

In post 1021, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 1019, Noraa wrote:Tbh it seems it doesn't really matter what either of u say at this point. town seems to think killing one pr and one scum(if their guess on this is right) is a good choice and totally worth it. I suggested killing off sirius who doesn't give us any useful opinions and wait until one of you can prove you are real that way we risk killing the real pr but that idea wasn't liked soooo that's that

After reading his most recent batch of posts I definitely saw the benefits of your point of view, Nora.

In post 1026, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 1023, shellyc wrote:

In post 1020, Frogsterking wrote:I think plus's comments at e-0 definitely imply some kind of intent, as though she was aware the game was not over, regardless of AI. Otherwise I don't believe it makes sense for her to have continued posting in the way that she had. She did not emotionally react to the hammer in my opinion, though I'll need to reread it. It seems like town!plus in that situation might have pointed out that she was not dead. I think that plus attempting to theater in that situation is not entirely AI either even if we could prove it was theater. I would be hammering plus because it makes more sense not because she theatered in that situation.

this is just fence-sitting: "imply intent" "did not emotionally react" but "not entirely AI"

In post 1022, PlusJOYED wrote:I've said basically all I've had to day about the me/shelly situation
at this point. There are 2 posts that I'd like to bring attention to that were really scummy but I think flew under most peoples radar in the heat of the moment that I think are worth looking at again.

First:

In post 542, 72offsuit wrote:UNVOTE: PlusJOYED

I dont buy the claim.

1. Total scumbucket, so i think its extremely likely just scum role fishing and trying to avert their lynch.

2. No PR is that ready to out themselves at the drop if a hat, especially not when:
A) a player requested for no hammers
B) we have replacements incoming
C) request for a claim came from their scumread
D) request came from a player who was already on their wagon And unable to actually hammer

Unvoting until replacements in.

This and the post after, despite my imperfect play here (I was feeling really pressured as nearly every player had expressed a SR on me), from a logical perspective, eliming me here before shelly counter claimed makes 0 fucking sense considering TFN is a provable role. They unvoted, but didn't even flinch or reconsider their SR on me at all, and a tunnel like that (an incorrect one at that) does not befit a townie SE reaction. This is very odd to me and pretty scummy.

Secondly ...

In post 736, Frogsterking wrote:I'm also not interested in hearing from the replacement slot for this same reason. I'll townread anyone who helps me quickhammer PLUS.

This, for obvious reasons, is a super scummy mindset. Townpasses are not just thrown out to people who do what you want, and limiting discussion here sounds like a bad idea. It's either a townie misplay (possible) or a big scumslip (also possible).

Both of the ccs believe I will hammer them and are accusing me of being scummy; this clears me as town right??

In post 1027, PlusJOYED wrote:I'm not ignoring your posts and I know your scum. Sounds like a desperate tunnel to me

In post 1025, shellyc wrote:

In post 1022, PlusJOYED wrote:a townie SE reaction

what is a "townie SE reaction" why do SEs have special treatment

In post 1031, shellyc wrote:

In post 1027, PlusJOYED wrote:I'm not ignoring your posts and I know your scum. Sounds like a desperate tunnel to me

let me explain to town. So now i know PlusJoy is outed, they would do things to frame partnerships after they die, so I should disregard their posts at this point to make a better decision on the solve.

In post 1033, Noraa wrote:So ig we could make the plan
plus use ur pr thingie on frog and shelly save him?

In post 1033, Noraa wrote:So ig we could make the plan
plus use ur pr thingie on frog and shelly save him?

In post 1037, Noraa wrote:if frog dies, then shelly is def not doctor

In post 1047, shellyc wrote:

@mod requesting a votecount

In post 1038, PlusJOYED wrote:

In post 1033, Noraa wrote:So ig we could make the plan
plus use ur pr thingie on frog and shelly save him?

If I live, since theres no rolestopper, I'm not telling who I use it on to get a better chance of scum not killing that person which won't prove me.