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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:12 pm
by Titus
In post 1021, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1016, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1015, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 585, SirCakez wrote:Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM
why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible
BM is playing to town meta
I think this is legitimately wrong
What distinguishes the two?

@SirCakez this is to you as well.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:12 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 611, OutWorldER wrote:I'll point out before I start writing up that other post that I did say No Elim on D2 would be good option. I think there will be a place for No Elim this game.

Just not D1.
In post 612, OutWorldER wrote:Wait I did say that

i'm losing my fucking mind, I think.
OK I think OWER is town for realz

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:13 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1025, Titus wrote:
In post 1021, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1016, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1015, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 585, SirCakez wrote:Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM
why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible
BM is playing to town meta
I think this is legitimately wrong
What distinguishes the two?

@SirCakez this is to you as well.
In a sentence, town BM is more chaotic. I don't sense the same sort of chaotic town!BM vibe I normally get.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:13 pm
by SirCakez
BM is lurk fuck as scum and actually plays as town

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:15 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 623, Akarin wrote:Cakez, why were you ISOing Gamma if you're concerned about the Titus wagon being scum-driven?
tbh I am concerned about the number of people who said Titus would be their N1 in addition to the amount of people pushing Titus

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:16 pm
by Akarin
@Reck: The case for it is: we could ensure that everyone is in a group of 3 people, at the cost of taking 1 more day to do tasks (which we'll need anyway because of kills.)

If we all do a task tonight, some people absolutely end up alone, probably multiple people. There are 10 rooms and 17 players, and scum can lie. We aren't gonna get that great a POE I think.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:18 pm
by Akarin
In post 1017, Blitzo wrote:@Akarin - What exactly do you mean by "bonus kills?"
Sorry if I missed it, I checked your ISO and I know that you've been talking about it but I'm just not really seeing it.
A task win as a primary win where we outrace scum by doing tasks before they simply kill us can't be possible.
Like...That can't be right.
Scum get 2 NKs instead of 1 if they are alone with 1 town member.

This seems like something worth avoiding, that's been the whole point of the claim plan.

And if it's simply not possible for a mechanic to come into play, why design it into the setup?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:18 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
right now im thinking

we do

3 to a room for 5 roomes
2 people solo (they don't say where they go)

if there's a bonus NK it has to be in a room where 2 scum - 1 town were

hence we get a double guilty.

Thoughts?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:19 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
or we can size up the groups to make it harder for bonus NKs to happen

but its impossible to know whats optimal if people dont claim their rooms.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 644, SirCakez wrote:I will admit I'm paranoid players like Reck are playing up their oppositionalness to everything to skate by
btw pls don't blanket TR opposition because I correctly SRed DiamondSentinel for trying to push cabd in smoke filled antechamber but got written off because "why would scum be so confrontational"

also side note, this game is actually going at a pleasant pace rn
please don't spoil it by getting into a dumb 1v1

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:20 pm
by Titus
In post 1028, SirCakez wrote:BM is lurk fuck as scum and actually plays as town
Can his lurksackness be attributed to real life?

@Gamma, What do you mean by chaotic versus not chaotic?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:20 pm
by Akarin
In post 1029, Gamma Emerald wrote:tbh I am concerned about the number of people who said Titus would be their N1 in addition to the amount of people pushing Titus
Were you keeping a list of people's response posts?

Any overlap in the two?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1032, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:right now im thinking

we do

3 to a room for 5 roomes
2 people solo (they don't say where they go)

if there's a bonus NK it has to be in a room where 2 scum - 1 town were

hence we get a double guilty.

Thoughts?
wait did we figure out the answer to that question I posed before

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:20 pm
by MURDERCAT
I think scum probably still has some trouble getting those extra kills off if we all claim hood members. Unless there's vents or something.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1035, Titus wrote:
In post 1028, SirCakez wrote:BM is lurk fuck as scum and actually plays as town
Can his lurksackness be attributed to real life?

@Gamma, What do you mean by chaotic versus not chaotic?
Town BM is active not just in posts, but in how vocal he is about stuff, he drives the game and kinda creates disorder in doing so
Here I don't see that same drive from him, so far I've just seen him talking about his task a bunch
In post 1036, Akarin wrote:
In post 1029, Gamma Emerald wrote:tbh I am concerned about the number of people who said Titus would be their N1 in addition to the amount of people pushing Titus
Were you keeping a list of people's response posts?

Any overlap in the two?
I haven't actively compiled the responses but there practically has to be overlap given the volume of people who said it to my recollection
once I see if blitzo did it or not I'll compile jsyk

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:22 pm
by Akarin
In post 1032, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:right now im thinking

we do

3 to a room for 5 roomes
2 people solo (they don't say where they go)

if there's a bonus NK it has to be in a room where 2 scum - 1 town were

hence we get a double guilty.

Thoughts?
I like it.

My having to double up with the same room is the reason I want to maybe go alone, because seems there aren't many of those.

People could sign onto rooms without actually claiming their tasks, that might be a good compromise.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:24 pm
by Akarin
In post 1038, MURDERCAT wrote:I think scum probably still has some trouble getting those extra kills off if we all claim hood members. Unless there's vents or something.
There's 1.7 people in the average room.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:26 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
im assuming every1 will post in their PTs once they get in them to do a check that everyone is where they said they would be.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:28 pm
by MURDERCAT
I am guessing there is a lights sabotage that messes with this. But there might also be a sabotage cooldown??

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:28 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 691, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why is murdercatto not tryharding this game?

highly susp
I just had a game where mcat turned on the jets a little later
so like, I think him doing it again is sensible given how that other game worked out

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:30 pm
by MURDERCAT
This is me every game if the term turn it on is used very loosely

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:31 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1016, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1015, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 585, SirCakez wrote:Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM
why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible
BM is playing to town meta
Meta is cancer

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:31 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1017, Blitzo wrote:@DGB - was this whole scumread thing a ploy to get me to vote for BM?
No - I want the game to hop.

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:32 pm
by SirCakez
In post 1034, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 644, SirCakez wrote:I will admit I'm paranoid players like Reck are playing up their oppositionalness to everything to skate by
btw pls don't blanket TR opposition because I correctly SRed DiamondSentinel for trying to push cabd in smoke filled antechamber but got written off because "why would scum be so confrontational"

also side note, this game is actually going at a pleasant pace rn
please don't spoil it by getting into a dumb 1v1
Yeah I fell for this too
Thus my paranoia
In post 1035, Titus wrote:
In post 1028, SirCakez wrote:BM is lurk fuck as scum and actually plays as town
Can his lurksackness be attributed to real life?

@Gamma, What do you mean by chaotic versus not chaotic?
Only he can answer this

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:33 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1028, SirCakez wrote:BM is lurk fuck as scum and actually plays as town
Oh so you're saying he's scum

mkay