Newbie 2045: A Midwinter Night's Dream - End!

[unwnd]

Ah, what you saw was frustration

Don't tell quiet/mikul this because it makes me a rude dude but

If they just stopped fucking posting these cumbersome inconclusive walls where they entertain 10 fucking different scenarios and even at the end of the post they still haven't decided we would be in a much better position imo

Now that you've read that, you've read that I've been sorta pairing Quiet/Mikul together based on this yet you think Quiet is just full of himself but like as scum. Why?

[unwnd]

Think right now I'm at

Mikul
Lunar (Just gonna believe the doc claim is real. Was looking over Mikul's reason as to why it is and I'll accept it. No need for unnecessary tinfoil)
BM
--
Quiet
Peta
--
Safebet

I don't really think Peta/Quiet are partners. There was this grandstanding Peta made towards Quiet on D1 where he basically said what he was doing was unproductive and confusing lazy paraphrase but it's there in ISO. Didn't seem like an angry mate who thinks Quiet is doing a bad job, especially cause I'm pretty sure Quiet has been mostly(?) townread.

i remember that interaction - could easily be scum coaching.

quiet is probably the most widely scumread slot still alive

, besides Lunar?

God really

I've been sitting here feeling it was the opposite

I've been in a funk lol

[petapan]

Was trying to think of a way to explain my thought process but if the mistake being made right now that writing long posts means you're town then that's a mistake that we'll all have to accept, never mind the fact I've done it too but hey. I'm not tinfoiling Quiet/Mikul here, but Safebet's response to me didn't seem all that enticing? What is it you saw that got you to change your mind?

D1 was shit creek. BBMolla claimed PR for no reason not even at E-1 and then you had Lunar who just happened to be the doctor, then Norfolk self-hammered because town couldn't make up their mind. What is this regression I see before my eyes. If you had problems with me you could've sorted them 8-10 pages ago.

i just don't feel like it's him

Would be stunned if quiet were scum. Vote on me sucks but he's just blissfully unaware. Peta's vote is different where he know it sucks and he's aware

does it? am i? i think i like it

Would be stunned if quiet were scum. Vote on me sucks but he's just blissfully unaware. Peta's vote is different where he know it sucks and he's aware

I sort of agree but I have another plausible explanation for what happened there. I want to hear from peta and quiet before I give my thoughts.

Peta and quiet: why vote unwnd?

i just think it's him. i realized i didn't like the current votes and went with a different one because i have the least reason to think he's town

[petapan]

Think right now I'm at

Mikul
Lunar (Just gonna believe the doc claim is real. Was looking over Mikul's reason as to why it is and I'll accept it. No need for unnecessary tinfoil)
BM
--
Quiet
Peta
--
Safebet

I don't really think Peta/Quiet are partners. There was this grandstanding Peta made towards Quiet on D1 where he basically said what he was doing was unproductive and confusing lazy paraphrase but it's there in ISO. Didn't seem like an angry mate who thinks Quiet is doing a bad job, especially cause I'm pretty sure Quiet has been mostly(?) townread.

i remember that interaction - could easily be scum coaching. quiet is probably the most widely scumread slot still alive, besides Lunar?

dude i wouldn't call my partner out unnecessarily like that lmao

[Battle Mage]

damnit damnit

i really think it's Unwnd and Quiet

[Battle Mage]

but if Quiet is town, I'm willing to take Unwnd as solid town. not true the other way around. so Quiet goes first.

[Battle Mage]

also quiet flipping scum makes me feel loads better about mikul and lunar

[Battle Mage]

ok so plan:

flip quiet
if scum, auto-flip unwnd tomorrow (Mikul and Lunar defo safe) and failing that, decide whether petapan or safebet makes most sense in ExLo.
if town, assume unwnd-town tomorrow, and probably flip petapan in ExLo (we lose to a Mikul-Lunar team here, and Mikul-Safebet, but most likely combo is Petapan-safebet anyway).

VOTE: Quiet

[petapan]

damnit damnit

i really think it's Unwnd and Quiet

what happened to safebet

[Battle Mage]

it could still be safebet, but i did kinda like his return. we can't elim everyone, so taking a pragmatic approach and hoping for the best!

i'm really sold on this quiet-unwnd pair, but if it's not that, i think i tend to flip you before safebet in ExLo.

[safebet222]

I have a hangup about quiet... Especially when it comes to being partners with unwnd. Specifically the opening of D1, let me sheep you schtick and post 258. I also am hung up on the thing I posted before about his town tell. I think its a mistake to go there.

[Battle Mage]

yeah that was my initial thinking too - no way they'd do that as buddies, but then quiet referred to it later in defence of himself, which makes me think it could easily have been a pre-meditated gameplan. That's my working theory, and we should test that today. what you called a towntell..wasn't really much tbh. look at both their ISOs. In readslists, they both have each other in the same sweetspot - middle of the pack, bit of a scumread for distancing value, but not actively pushing unless there's already some momentum in that direction.

[Battle Mage]

anyway i'm sticking with that plan, otherwise this game may drive me nuts.

[safebet222]

Damn... BM...why should I consider voting where my two scum reads are?

[petapan]

just vote unwnd unstead

i mean he's not going to get hammered but follow your conscience

[quiet]

Personally, I thought my vote on unwnd was decently productive. I declared my intent at the start of today to put pressure on the three ringer slots of unwnd, safebet (who is no longer a ringer! Plot twist of the year! Safebet, you play really experienced for this being your fourth game), and peta, all of whom I felt like as scum could have easily skated through day1 with no suspicion raised whatsoever.

Got more of a reaction out of Unwnd just now than anything I’ve seen all game. Want to consider what that means and do an iso.
Also, have lots more peta interactions, and a wall from safebet that I rather liked on first read.

Finally free for a day, and on my laptop. Maybe the quality will go up a bit, idk.

[Battle Mage]

Damn... BM...why should I consider voting where my two scum reads are?

does it matter? not as if quiet couldnt be bussed here

[unwnd]

I don't think delaying the day would be wise, but I think peta is full of shit and looks the worst if I am hammered.

If quiet does end up being scum however? For one I'd be stunned and two I'd have to think a bit harder. Right now bias indicates what I felt before, thinking Peta/Safebet honestly and uh GG quiet if you're fooling me?

[unwnd]

As for my recent turnaround on Peta

I just wanted him to be town, so I kept giving him chances

[Battle Mage]

unwnd, go with me on this.

we elim quiet - if he flips town, i'll treat you as conftown and we flip in peta/safebet tomorrow.

it's a numbers game now - just need a town-led plan, people on board and a little bit of luck.

[unwnd]

I'm perfectly fine with it

Who else would you consider Quiet's partner if he flips red?

[Battle Mage]

hold on safebet....your two scumreads are genuinely Mikul and Lunar? lol we'll look at that tomorrow

anyway, i'm done. unwnd, it's quiet or you today, and you've got the hammer.

[Battle Mage]

I think most likely you, but failing that, we need to go back the tough dilemma I had yesterday (petapan or safebet). i could see any of them as possible partners for quiet, which is why we are doing him today.

[Battle Mage]

im probably leaning petapan-quiet over safebet-quiet

[unwnd]

I got the hammer? I choose self-pres every time

VOTE: Quiet