Mini Normal 2196 - Game Over

[Solon]

I haven't really been interested in the Da Dude wagon because I didn't have particular suspicions for that slot, nor did I think flipping it would reveal anything.

But now I am suspicious of MiniMegabyte, and I feel Da Dude flipping scum would all but cinch it.

That said, the Da Dude wagon is evaporating, so maybe I should just vote for my suspicion directly.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

But, if the Da Dude slot wagon returns, I am happy to swap to it.

that's such an artificial post

Scum voting other scum?

kinda feeling like switching to hypo

Why do you scumread me?

[Solon]

See, yeah, compared to "late activated IC", Novice Detective IS something that makes sense for scum to claim.

Also, it feels like you made the claim pretty early... like, as town it's a role you want to keep secret. You weren't at risk of being hammered immediately (only E-2 at the time you made the claim, if I counted correctly), so why would you give up the town power role's anonymity so quickly?

Edit by way of preview: +1 to April's "frustrated scum" analysis

lmao i want to vote him for this post alone. infact i will do that, VOTE: HypoSoc

Woah shit there was another one

[Solon]

This wagon feels a little dirty with how quickly it's sprung up, let's try this instead

VOTE: Lotus

[Solon]

I haven't really been interested in the Da Dude wagon because I didn't have particular suspicions for that slot, nor did I think flipping it would reveal anything.

But now I am suspicious of MiniMegabyte, and I feel Da Dude flipping scum would all but cinch it.

That said, the Da Dude wagon is evaporating, so maybe I should just vote for my suspicion directly.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

But, if the Da Dude slot wagon returns, I am happy to swap to it.

that's such an artificial post

Scum voting other scum?

kinda feeling like switching to hypo

Thinking about it, this post actually makes tons of sense from the perspective of biped being HypoSoc's partner

[Featherless Biped]

I haven't really been interested in the Da Dude wagon because I didn't have particular suspicions for that slot, nor did I think flipping it would reveal anything.

But now I am suspicious of MiniMegabyte, and I feel Da Dude flipping scum would all but cinch it.

That said, the Da Dude wagon is evaporating, so maybe I should just vote for my suspicion directly.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

But, if the Da Dude slot wagon returns, I am happy to swap to it.

that's such an artificial post

Scum voting other scum?

kinda feeling like switching to hypo

Why do you scumread me?

i don't necessarily scumread you directly, like, i'm not a fan of you watlzing in and claiming PR but apart from that i don't have much to say about, it's more about mini's posts, i could try to dig the ones that pinged me if ya want

and in that message, it's more that i felt that Hypo was acting like you'd act with a scumbuddy you see?

[Dannflor]

This wagon feels a little dirty with how quickly it's sprung up, let's try this instead

VOTE: Lotus

why

[Solon]

In post 903, Solon wrote:
I be a TPR! Get off my wagon or be off with thy heads!


really, another day 1 claim. i think i believe about one third of these are true

gretchen and klick are pretty much always the same alignment soo

I don't really see a reason not to believe klick or grethcen. Would klick really run a gambit like that to save his partner? Klick certaintly wouldn't do that as scum to save a town pr. Maybe gretchen happened to fake claim a pr that supposedly synergizes with Klick? Seems doubtful.

Mini's slot claimed in a really weird spot. Doesn't seem natural that they would feel the pressure to claim there. It is also a pretty safe fakeclaim given there are 2 other prs that can die in the night.

I'm scumreding this as well

Btw I didn't even know about the other claims when I made mine. This subtle discrediting shit aint gonna fly

And just generally a lack of townie play. He's made two posts since I replaced in and they've both been underwhelming at best.

[RLotus]

In post 903, Solon wrote:
I be a TPR! Get off my wagon or be off with thy heads!


really, another day 1 claim. i think i believe about one third of these are true

gretchen and klick are pretty much always the same alignment soo

I don't really see a reason not to believe klick or grethcen. Would klick really run a gambit like that to save his partner? Klick certaintly wouldn't do that as scum to save a town pr. Maybe gretchen happened to fake claim a pr that supposedly synergizes with Klick? Seems doubtful.

Mini's slot claimed in a really weird spot. Doesn't seem natural that they would feel the pressure to claim there. It is also a pretty safe fakeclaim given there are 2 other prs that can die in the night.

I'm scumreding this as well

Btw I didn't even know about the other claims when I made mine. This subtle discrediting shit aint gonna fly

Wasn't subtle whatsoever.

[Solon]

You're making out that it could be scummy without directly calling it scummy - I'd say that was an attempt at being subtle.

I didn't say it was a

good

attempt.

[RLotus]

You're making out that it could be scummy without directly calling it scummy - I'd say that was an attempt at being subtle.

I didn't say it was a

good

attempt.

Fair enough, I'm not near confident enough to call you scum, but if one of the claims is fake it is probably yours.

Do you not see it as strange for someone to claim PR with merely 3 votes on them? Especially considering you apparently hadn't read enough to know about the other claims. Why would you claim without even knowing the context of the game of that point?

[Solon]

I think I've already answered that.

I wasn't willing to let it get to a stage where I'm a compromise elim based on the actions of my predecessor, which is outside of my control. A late claim might not have been believed as this is a closed setup, therefore the best weapon in my arsenal as a Townie was transparency. I play mostly by instinct, and my instinct at that moment told me to claim as I did.

I'd much rather eat a NK than the elim so I'm not too worried.

[Solon]

I also thought (and still think) that claiming in the way I did would bring about some interesting reactions, and I believe with some certainty that scum are amongst the few that have tried to quietly discredit my claim.

[RLotus]

I think I've already answered that.

I wasn't willing to let it get to a stage where I'm a compromise elim based on the actions of my predecessor, which is outside of my control. A late claim might not have been believed as this is a closed setup, therefore the best weapon in my arsenal as a Townie was transparency. I play mostly by instinct, and my instinct at that moment told me to claim as I did.

I'd much rather eat a NK than the elim so I'm not too worried.

Yeah you explained it kind of before. My point really is how can you scum read someone criticizing your claim when you claimed in such a sudden and out of place way?

Also, I disagree using your instinct when you haven't read the game yet, but what is done is done.

[RLotus]

I also thought (and still think) that claiming in the way I did would bring about some interesting reactions, and I believe with some certainty that scum are amongst the few that have tried to quietly discredit my claim.

Disagree totally. It is natural in my opinion to question a claim like that. Especially when there are two claims already, town needs to really start evaluating them. You didn't know about the other claims at the time, but yeah. Sure I suppose there can be scum questioning your claim, but personally I'm not reading much into that.

[Solon]

I don't scumread those who criticize it, I scumread those who are trying to subtly discredit it. Big difference.

[Solon]

I also thought (and still think) that claiming in the way I did would bring about some interesting reactions, and I believe with some certainty that scum are amongst the few that have tried to quietly discredit my claim.

Disagree totally. It is natural in my opinion to question a claim like that. Especially when there are two claims already, town needs to really start evaluating them. You didn't know about the other claims at the time, but yeah. Sure I suppose there can be scum questioning your claim, but personally I'm not reading much into that.

I am the only claimer that has promised hard info Tomorrow, and yet someone said I was the most likely to be lying?

[Solon]

I can't remember who said that now but I'm sure someone did

[RLotus]

I also thought (and still think) that claiming in the way I did would bring about some interesting reactions, and I believe with some certainty that scum are amongst the few that have tried to quietly discredit my claim.

Disagree totally. It is natural in my opinion to question a claim like that. Especially when there are two claims already, town needs to really start evaluating them. You didn't know about the other claims at the time, but yeah. Sure I suppose there can be scum questioning your claim, but personally I'm not reading much into that.

I am the only claimer that has promised hard info Tomorrow, and yet someone said I was the most likely to be lying?

Promising information does not absolve you from being a fake claim, no.

Do you not see/agree with the logic in that post?

[Solon]

I didn't say I was absolved.

There is no logic behind saying I'm the

most

likely claimer to be lying.

[RLotus]

I didn't say I was absolved.

There is no logic behind saying I'm the

most

likely claimer to be lying.

Considering gretchen and klick linked themselves together if they are scum and the spot in which you claimed, I do think there is logic to you being the most likely liar.

[Solon]

I don't believe gretchen linked her role to Klick's? I have also linked mine to Gretchen's before I even knew of Klick's soft.

Obviously the IC claim is the most likely to be a lie.

[Solon]

And while I

think

gretchen is telling the truth based on my own role, I'm far from certain as I don't know much about how roles are usually linked in these games

Anyway, I feel as though this discussion is becoming increasingly redundant

[geraintm]

Gera is acting the same as town!Gera our past game in the sense of confusing reads and bad logic.

I see no reason to think that he is scum here.

i am very confused this game. i cant make head nor tale of today, i keep getting whiplash looking at the thread overnight

Geraint is a bad wagon

you dont like the people on it?

VOTE: hyposoc

VOTE: biped

see, whiplash ^^^

This wagon feels a little dirty with how quickly it's sprung up, let's try this instead

VOTE: Lotus

more whiplash

there feels like so much jumpng around scum are having a field day, knowing a crappy elimination is coming but because everyone was in on it is like poiret on the train, everyone could be the murderer...

i cannot see myself anyone who has jumed out today to be especially scummy. tomorrow it may be clearer but today, nope.

[bugspray]

i need to yeet ppl that i tr for nonlogical associatecs that are so ephemeral i dont rememebr them a day later
vc pls

[Featherless Biped]

I also thought (and still think) that claiming in the way I did would bring about some interesting reactions, and I believe with some certainty that scum are amongst the few that have tried to quietly discredit my claim.

and who do you consider as the "few"?