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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:24 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10418, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10416, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 10414, Enchant wrote: These PRs also useless.
But they're still PRs over a complete unknown in Bell.
do u think looking into nks will help us progress?
NKA is vastly underrated imo.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:24 am
by Off The Hook
In post 10420, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Do you think I'm the only one doing it and do you only have a problem with me doing it?
wow why r u so defensive....
i just noticed you were doing it, do u have any conclusions yet as to why they wanted bell specifically dead?

i dont have a problem with it but i cant tell what ur weighing rn rlly

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:24 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 2080, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I was townreading Corwin - I think that he genuinely believes in , and looks like a fairly complex thought even if I disagree with its conclusions.

I'd be down for Toad though
This looks bad in retrospect. I think it was Luke who mentioned it at the time but I don't see how these thoughts are complex and so the town read feels unjustified.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:25 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 10425, Dancing Puppets wrote: NKA is vastly underrated imo.
This. 100%

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:26 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10424, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 10421, Dancing Puppets wrote:Why are you so certain a strongman can’t exist in this setup?
if scum have strongman bella is useless

also why have macho doc in a game with strongman
Strongman is usually gated right, so why not?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:26 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 10426, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 10420, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Do you think I'm the only one doing it and do you only have a problem with me doing it?
wow why r u so defensive....
i just noticed you were doing it, do u have any conclusions yet as to why they wanted bell specifically dead?

i dont have a problem with it but i cant tell what ur weighing rn rlly
I was talking about it
in reponse
to DP discussing it. I get defensive because it feels like you're picking up on almost everything I post that you can have a go at.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:27 am
by Off The Hook
In post 9433, Bell wrote:C&G is off, but I can smell the fake role posturing from here.
If they're actually just neighbor VT here they're playing exceptionally badly as either alignment.
I'll leave a 0 star review on their yelp page.
In post 9359, Bell wrote:
In post 9349, Best Bird wrote:
In post 9348, Lukewarm wrote:Will you be able to talk to Dunn and Frog on day 3?
Potentially one of them. I only have one more shot.
There some reason you didn't find Mala's announcement weird or anything? They claimed they could talk to dead people and only really retracted it a lot later.
In post 9282, Bell wrote:Malcolm's pretty focused on a single take at a time. There's less substance an more size to it, like they're ballooning up a post.
Their reasoning is pseudo reasoning because it takes shape in the form of what would be interesting rather than what is likely.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:28 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Also, haven't really come to a conclusion in terms of why Bell was targeted other than they were very likely to be town upon Math's flip.

But so was Pooky? So, yeah.

Pedit - I was literally just looking at those posts, too.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:39 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10427, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 2080, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I was townreading Corwin - I think that he genuinely believes in , and looks like a fairly complex thought even if I disagree with its conclusions.

I'd be down for Toad though
This looks bad in retrospect. I think it was Luke who mentioned it at the time but I don't see how these thoughts are complex and so the town read feels unjustified.
Had we limmed Corwin d1, Taly probably would never have been gladiated and Frogs would have likely been spewed town from 2080.

But yeah, I agree. I really don’t see anything particularly complex about Corwin’s posting. It’s very superficial.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:41 am
by Off The Hook
maybe bell couldve been killed for his reads..?

im not sure like

he had a heavy focus on taly in the start, which makes me want to say taly fucked up in the pt, but then i think deeper, why would a team with taly on it want to so obviously kill bell? like it wouldve just easily pointed towards taly, so i dont really think scum wouldve wanted to go for bell there out of everyone if taly was a scum.

i think maybe those posts i quoted were "interesting" reads bell had though, and I think it could be worth it to look further into them. the malcolm one in particular, while malcolm was being wagoned at the time, the wagoning felt pretty mindless so bell giving an actual reason on malcolm feels a bit more out there compared to some other wagoners. >.>

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:44 am
by Best Bird
In post 10394, Dancing Puppets wrote:I wish BB would tell us what he learned from his convo and who with.
uhhhh....i did already.
In post 10022, Best Bird wrote:
In post 10006, Rad wrote:@BB, did you pick someone last night to talk to?
no - i withheld at the advice of ceph + paranoia of a roleblock since I claimed only one shot left

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:15 am
by T-Bone
In post 10284, Rad wrote:
In post 10283, JohnnyFarrar wrote:My shit also matches my character, same with T-Bone
You and T-Bone are so buddy buddy in your hood that you shared your flavor AND your roles?
Our characters are literally named in the OP

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:18 am
by T-Bone
In post 10336, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10331, Rad wrote:Dp on point. Town Bella just dies tonight sitting on PD, or other doc saves her. Scum bella dies tomorrow not protecting PD. Or unlimited strongarm wrecks town cause OP as fuck
+1

Exactly, limming Bella today is anti-town when we can potentially save Drap tonight or confirm Bella!scum or know that a strongman exists and this is the only way to do all of this.
Is this a scum claim? In no world is not flipping Bella the right thing to do.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:20 am
by T-Bone
In post 10340, Rad wrote:Yo we already decided Juliet (bella claim) could be doc.

Did Bella steal it from a scum partner? Sure maybe.

If PD dies tonight we flip bella, 100%.

If Bella is town doc PD doesn't die. Bella dies or someone random dies.

That's the point.
This is bad

Let's say we go through with this plan you've outted to the entire player list. Why do you think scum make the play that you've outlined that "confirms" two slots as town?

They don't. They kill someone else and force us to deal with this the next day phase.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:27 am
by Best Bird
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:38 am
by Enchant
/ignore BBT
/ignore Dancing Queen
/execute Bella

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:55 am
by ProfessorDrapion
Real Doc on me, pretty sure I know who you are.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:12 am
by T-Bone
In post 10374, Enchant wrote:If mafia have roleblocker, why they even need kill Professor.

They just roleblockspam Professor and keep both alive.


Also Dancing again scumclaiming.
First town post you've made all game!

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:16 am
by T-Bone
I'll keep Drap alive if Bella flips scum. Problem solved???

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:19 am
by Enchant
In post 10442, T-Bone wrote:
In post 10374, Enchant wrote:If mafia have roleblocker, why they even need kill Professor.

They just roleblockspam Professor and keep both alive.


Also Dancing again scumclaiming.
First town post you've made all game!
Damn.

I need compensate it by scumclaiming.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:22 am
by T-Bone
Also like the handwringing over Drap dying if Bella flips scum is nonsense. That's a good fucking trade town should want to make every time. Only scum would be against this trade I feel.

If Bella flips town then there's zero chance Drap is killed because we'll have to flip him next.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:36 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 10437, T-Bone wrote:
In post 10336, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 10331, Rad wrote:Dp on point. Town Bella just dies tonight sitting on PD, or other doc saves her. Scum bella dies tomorrow not protecting PD. Or unlimited strongarm wrecks town cause OP as fuck
+1

Exactly, limming Bella today is anti-town when we can potentially save Drap tonight or confirm Bella!scum or know that a strongman exists and this is the only way to do all of this.
Is this a scum claim? In no world is not flipping Bella the right thing to do.
Is this a real question? And that’s probably the most polite response I can think of to respond to this.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:37 am
by MalcolmTucker
I can't see Bella flipping town and would still advocate for us eliminating there. Mislim Bait's arguments are correct. DP is still town though.

In some convoluted scenario where Bella somehow ends up being town here, is it not possible scum would just eliminate Drapion anyway to misdirect us so we end up voting out Bella tomorrow after all? Or if they fear Drapion could be protected, would they not just vote somewhere else entirely?

Still struggling to see past a Bella vote as the way to go.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:37 am
by Off The Hook
VOTE: bella

gamma says that bella being town relies on too many what ifs and i agree :?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:39 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 10438, T-Bone wrote:
In post 10340, Rad wrote:Yo we already decided Juliet (bella claim) could be doc.

Did Bella steal it from a scum partner? Sure maybe.

If PD dies tonight we flip bella, 100%.

If Bella is town doc PD doesn't die. Bella dies or someone random dies.

That's the point.
This is bad

Let's say we go through with this plan you've outted to the entire player list. Why do you think scum make the play that you've outlined that "confirms" two slots as town?

They don't. They kill someone else and force us to deal with this the next day phase.
Agreed, feel like this alternative approach just gives scum a good chance to switch up their own play to deceive us. Especially when said plan is being stated openly for scum to see.