Stars Aligned III - The Tenth Day

[El Goosuki]

Alright, everyone back off.

ReaperCharlie is town. "I AM MUCH TOO LAZY TO LOOK FOR THEM." Those are the words of a townie.

[AurorusVox]

ReaperCharlie is town. "I AM MUCH TOO LAZY TO LOOK FOR THEM." Those are the words of a townie.

And the fact that he said that couldn't have had ANYTHING to do with this:

First off, meta wise: This guy is extremely Lazy as Town. Seriously.

[/sarcasm]

El G, are you only planning on commenting on/reading the posts that are made whilst you're online?

[El Goosuki]

Your sarcasm aside, I still think ReaperCharlie is town because he'd be to lazy to have read VV's earlier comment.

Also, I've commented on posts made hours before I log on. HOURS!!!

-DGB

[AurorusVox]

Aha. So if you're capable of reading these posts made hours before you log on (HOURS!!!) , why aren't you capable of reading and commenting on the thread in its whole? Why do you need a summary written for you? There's four of you, I mean, you could even do like, 15 pages each.

[El Goosuki]

Oh, I don't need a summary, myself. My other heads think it necessary, but I'm more one to go with the flow.

-DGB

[VasudeVa]

@ Vas: ROFL. You are telling me I am trying to win town points of the Furcolow situation? LOL

MAYBE YOU MISSED WHERE I SAID (ON PAGE F*@$ING THREE, MIGHT I ADD):

I just want to say that just once, I would like to see furcolow NOT lynched on Day 1.

He is often a valuable asset to the town if left alive. Not to mention an unlikely nightkill.

Sooooo as a personal request I would like you guys to unvote him. It's just his style.

eh???

OH YEAH HERP DERP REAPER. SRYZ BRO

I'm sorry, What? That doesn't even pretend to make sense.

Who said anything about lynching Furcolow? I was telling him to cease making 5 posts when he can easily compress ALL of those into one singular post that is easier on the eyes and on the page numbers. You went all high and mighty and said 'That's scummy. I welcome every single one of his posts. *cool guy faise w/ thumbs up and sparkly teeth*'.

And I'm not even going to dignify that second part with a response because it has nothing to do with my case on you. Nor do I even understand why the fuck you are bringing it up. This is an interesting reaction though, 'Mr. AwesomeTown'.

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I can see what you mean about ISO#38, but I disagree with your analysis of why ISO#46 is scummy. If his #46 has scummy motivations, I don't think it's what you're seeing, because he called Hito scummy for IMPLYING he wanted to volunteer rather than saying it explicitly himself, i.e. he's accusing Hito of trying to allow someone else to suggest it to avoid seeming suspicious. If it's scum motivated, then he's explicitly volunteering himself in order to not be accused of hypocrisy - he hasn't acted hypocritically.

Really? I thought it had scum written all over it. The fact that he had a problem with Hito(mr. obvTown!) being the graverobber is really transparent. I mean, a Townie seeing mr.ObvTown Hito fish for a volunteer would gladly say 'Why, Hito! Why don't you do it~ *thumbs up*'. Reaper said 'No Hito. I'll do it. I am the shining beacon of Townieness, after all.'.

Why would any Townie dissuade a pretty obvious Townie from graverobbing? Answer: They won't.

Reaper is scum. Moar votes plx.

[Wickedestjr]

10 more pages... :O

Couldn't this be scum trying to get attention away from scum?

It could, but this reasoning could apply to any vote and I currently have no reason to think that is the case here.

That's what I was thinking too. I was planning to read back over that whole exchange in SAII at some point because I don't remember specifically why it was fail, but I remember it was. Do you recall why? (might save me the trouble of reading even more SA pages)

Adel's plan was for all but three players to stalk each other such that everybody was stalking another player and every player was being stalked. Then, the following night everybody murders the person they stalked, and the cult that were still alive would be revealed for not successfully murdering their targets. I don't know if the plan would've worked or not, but I believe the plan was a bad one, because if it worked it would require no scumhunting or playing whatsoever and pretty much ruining this awesome game that Percy had gone to so much work to prepare. I think this plan seems no different.

Also, can you spell out the Benmage killing Fate plan for me? I think I missed the particulars of it in trying to read so fast last night. I get that an attempted murder proves him not-cult, but I think I'm missing how SSBF ties in to everything.

The plan is basically Benmage tries to kill Fate and SSBF protects Fate. We are still discussing if it is worth it or if it would work, but I think it should work.

No, it would only confirm that Benmage is non-cult. That doesn't mean he can't go murderer later on.

That's why we have him grave rob. A confirmed non-cult grave robbing is very helpful. If he robs two graves, that means he can't do anything else.

I'm not going to finish catching up tonight, but should hopefully post more later.

[El Goosuki]

VV is also town.

-DGB

[ReaperCharlie]

@ Vas: ROFL. You are telling me I am trying to win town points of the Furcolow situation? LOL

MAYBE YOU MISSED WHERE I SAID (ON PAGE F*@$ING THREE, MIGHT I ADD):

I just want to say that just once, I would like to see furcolow NOT lynched on Day 1.

He is often a valuable asset to the town if left alive. Not to mention an unlikely nightkill.

Sooooo as a personal request I would like you guys to unvote him. It's just his style.

eh???

OH YEAH HERP DERP REAPER. SRYZ BRO

I'm sorry, What? That doesn't even pretend to make sense.

Who said anything about lynching Furcolow? I was telling him to cease making 5 posts when he can easily compress ALL of those into one singular post that is easier on the eyes and on the page numbers. You went all high and mighty and said 'That's scummy. I welcome every single one of his posts. *cool guy faise w/ thumbs up and sparkly teeth*'.

And I'm not even going to dignify that second part with a response because it has nothing to do with my case on you. Nor do I even understand why the fuck you are bringing it up. This is an interesting reaction though, 'Mr. AwesomeTown'.

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I can see what you mean about ISO#38, but I disagree with your analysis of why ISO#46 is scummy. If his #46 has scummy motivations, I don't think it's what you're seeing, because he called Hito scummy for IMPLYING he wanted to volunteer rather than saying it explicitly himself, i.e. he's accusing Hito of trying to allow someone else to suggest it to avoid seeming suspicious. If it's scum motivated, then he's explicitly volunteering himself in order to not be accused of hypocrisy - he hasn't acted hypocritically.

Really? I thought it had scum written all over it. The fact that he had a problem with Hito(mr. obvTown!) being the graverobber is really transparent. I mean, a Townie seeing mr.ObvTown Hito fish for a volunteer would gladly say 'Why, Hito! Why don't you do it~ *thumbs up*'. Reaper said 'No Hito. I'll do it. I am the shining beacon of Townieness, after all.'.

Why would any Townie dissuade a pretty obvious Townie from graverobbing? Answer: They won't.

Reaper is scum. Moar votes plx.

GTFO!

Not only did you NOT answer my question, but you FAILED to point out whatever question of yours I didn't answer!

Answer my f@#$&ing question scumbag.

[ReaperCharlie]

AND BTW. I AM A SHINING BEACON. OF HOPE. AND SANITY.

DO NOT QUESTION ME.

[Triglav]

I don't want to move away from Bowser just yet; but Reaper, why did you post that as a question instead of looking back at the rules?

Because I already read the rules, and still misunderstood this. Plus, I'm pretty lazy. I thought you could tell

Also... Seacore, stfu. You are cult and trying to attach a WIFOMspiral to my innocent question. SCREW YOU

You keep trying to buzzword your way out of a lynch.

Is it possible for people to be this bad?

Whoever is calling me scummy, i.e. Seacore, Vas, Magna, (& Co.?), SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIMS.

WHAT HAVE I DONE THAT IS SCUMMY THIS ENTIRE GAME.

OOHHHHHH WAIT THATS RIGHT.

YOU IDIOTS.

Here ya go.

MINA!!!
I STILL LOVE READING YOUR POSTS.
COULD YOU BE AWESOME AND PUT A GAME SUMMARY WALL FOR ME
THANKS!!!!

ElG / LB scumteam, anyone?

Tell me this is a joke. TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE.

ElG/LB scumteam could just retreat to scum-QT and get a recap. Bam, done.

Alright, everyone back off.

ReaperCharlie is town. "I AM MUCH TOO LAZY TO LOOK FOR THEM." Those are the words of a townie.

Or someone who knows idiots in the town will buy into that?

Reaper, for your idiot-self, I give you this:

Lost Butterfly is scummier than all get out, and you know it.

And you are not much better. Nice WIFOMGUS though.

There still is the elephant in the room in that you are DIRECTLY contradicting yourself here.

1) Hydras should not take time to co-ordinate reads/suspicions to avoid conflicting opinions and suspicions in the game-thread from the same player slot.
2) Hydras should not post without co-ordination and should instead take the time to get stories straight.

The two statements can not mutually survive. You are stating both. You need to pick one. You've essentially also done exactly what you're accusing LB of being scummy for, as you've contradicted your own read. Just you're not a hydra, so you don't even have that cop out.

Double contradiction for the win.

CARE TO EXPLAIN?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Wait, I thought the Cult could kill each night regardless of stalking.

Fetishes give people extra insanities, and the Ritual kills 'em, right?

DERP. I’m pointing to this post to show the sudden shift in Reaper’s play. Before this he was the “Shining Beacon of Town”, making ‘astute’ observations and credible posts. Now he’s suddenly under fire and he suddenly is trying to revert to his “Lazy Town” meta which I pointed out 713. Change of playstyles based solely on pressure? Scumtastic. I’d give a perfect example but it is [REDACTED].

Whoever is calling me scummy, i.e. Seacore, Vas, Magna, (& Co.?), SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIMS.

WHAT HAVE I DONE THAT IS SCUMMY THIS ENTIRE GAME.

OOHHHHHH WAIT THATS RIGHT.

YOU IDIOTS.

Rhetoric and lack of explanation regarding the inconsistency Triglav has REPEATEDLY requested you address noted.

Seriously don’t try to play the “Prove it to me” game with me.

I’ve pointed out why I think you are suspect. Town RC doesn’t proclaim themselves the Town Beacon Day 1. Town RC has to be prodded to provide content. Scum RC loves to establish himself as the center of attention if perceived as clear or Town.

The fact that you suddenly are playing the Lazy Town card this late into the day when you’ve had no trouble finding and keeping up with posts before this (when pages were flying fast and furious) plays very false.

The fact that you’ve spent as much time gathering your “Town Team of Awesomesauce” this early in the game and the majority of your scum-huting has consisted of “Seacore is Scum LOLOL” doesn’t make me think my gut is wrong at this stage.

Oh yeah, since your panties are so in a bunch.

UNVOTE: AV
VOTE: ReaperCharlie

ISO #0: You attacked Furcolow because he was a potential problem. I really disliked this because I see you as a player who likes to read people, not just
ISO #4: You're saying that Furc is Cult fakeclaiming ward on a Craft Fetish target. Horrible attack. Ward protects someone who was CF'd, therefore no Fetish will be made. This reads to me that you're just saying this to make your vote seem justifiable.
ISO #9 and #10: Some shit about El Goo and timestamps. More horribadness, to make Furcolow implode, thinking that you can get away with such horrible fluff attacks that really don't mean anything.

ISO 0 – I believe Furcolow will be a detriment to Town long term. Fact. After seeing his Town performance in Harry Potter and his Scum performance in Bold and the Beautiful I don’t believe he will help Town regardless of alignment. Period. Look at the amount of votes he’s made today, the number of times he’s declared to have ‘caught scum’ only to abandon those reads, and the number of reads he’s flip-flopped on (Fate as a prime example). I very much doubt based on past history and his current contributions that he'll be instrumental in actually getting Cult lynched even if his mercurial reads are correct. Not sure what you intended to say after “not just”.
ISO 4 – What in the hell are you trying to say here? Back there I posited that Furc could be passing of his own crafting of a Fetish on El Goo (which would cause El Goo to hear noise) as a Ward (which would also cause El Goo to hear noise). You attack that states the Ward would prevent a Fetish is factually correct but doesn’t even apply to my argument.
ISO 9-10 – If you don’t think that it is odd that suddenly Furcolow, who reacts with the speed of a diabetic hummingbird to accusatory posts, took that long to respond with the simple statement as to who he actually sent his protect in on I don’t know what to say. Certainly nothing fluffy about it.

You know, stuff.
Sort of Town game
Real Town game

I like to stalk people. I was arguing here that your vote of AV didn't seem like you. I'm not so sure about AV's alignment, but this vote was just about as lazy as you can get: Hide a vote in a wall. You have mentioned AV twice in your vote post and you didn't even bother to say more than 'Your response is underwhelming' and 'I agree with SpyreX'.

So you linked to Mega Man Mini 1008 as an example of a game I’m ‘Sort of Town’ in despite the fact that I didn’t play in that game?

And you linked to Personal Agenda Mafia as an example of a game where I was ‘Real Town’? Despite that fact that I was a 3rd Party Jester?

For someone who likes to stalk you do a craptastic job of it. When you find a scum game of mine that demonstrates me doing what you are suggesting here we can talk. Otherwise I’ll just assume you are being your regular, fairly incompetent self here (Advance Wars Mafia anyone?).

1. Nope!
2B. I disliked HOW you voted for AV because it was super lazy + your fake attacks on Furc.

Oh, you dislike it. Ok. When you can demonstrate scum motivation and history for it come back and see me.

[AurorusVox]

I can see what you mean about ISO#38, but I disagree with your analysis of why ISO#46 is scummy. If his #46 has scummy motivations, I don't think it's what you're seeing, because he called Hito scummy for IMPLYING he wanted to volunteer rather than saying it explicitly himself, i.e. he's accusing Hito of trying to allow someone else to suggest it to avoid seeming suspicious. If it's scum motivated, then he's explicitly volunteering himself in order to not be accused of hypocrisy - he hasn't acted hypocritically.

Really? I thought it had scum written all over it. The fact that he had a problem with Hito(mr. obvTown!) being the graverobber is really transparent. I mean, a Townie seeing mr.ObvTown Hito fish for a volunteer would gladly say 'Why, Hito! Why don't you do it~ *thumbs up*'. Reaper said 'No Hito. I'll do it. I am the shining beacon of Townieness, after all.'.

Why would any Townie dissuade a pretty obvious Townie from graverobbing? Answer: They won't.

Reaper is scum. Moar votes plx.

You've missed the emphasis of my post, I'm saying that I disagree as to

why

you think it's scummy (well, I don't disagree so much now you've expanded, but before, you were saying that he was scummy for being "hypocritical." But he was FoSing Hito for trying to manipulate people into saying "Oh Hito you do it", rather than explicitly saying "I want to do it" - and so by explicitly saying "I want to do it" himself, he

avoided

being accused of hypocrisy. Does that make sense?)

RC

- were you honestly suggesting that you should graverob?

ElG/LB scumteam could just retreat to scum-QT and get a recap. Bam, done.

But doesn't that line of thinking ultimately confirm El G as town then? If he's scum, he can get a recap from his buddies regardless. Are you willing to confirm El G as town?

And my point about the scumteam was also that El G directly contradicted his previous attitude of "I'll do whatever, just tell me what to do" when he

didn't

do what Fate told him to do. What do you make of that part of it?

[Furcolow]

Oh, I don't need a summary, myself. My other heads think it necessary, but I'm more one to go with the flow.

-DGB

this is exactly how DGB played as town in SA2 fme

[Triglav]

The previous head speaks a lot with this head's concepts of what is good and just in the world. I'd also like to add that I'm immensely unimpressed by RC's "where's the questions?" line as he's even responded to information in one of the posts the primary Triglav question was asked in. I'm so unimpressed (angry) at it that I have to do a timeline as I don't think the other head showcased my rage enough.

OBLIGATORY ALL CAPS MOMENT TO CLARIFY RAGE INHERENT IN THIS ENTIRE POST!!!1!

Initial quesion
Here's the reply where he quotes the question, acts like the extent of the question is that Triglav is defending LB too much, and posts a funny picture <--obvious dodge is obvious.
Question is restated
RC's next post ignores/dodges again.
Question is restated (and linked) again
RC is now bemoaning that he doesn't know the question and needs it re-linked?

One dodge? Okay, fast moving game.
Two? Well...maybe one of those was around the Space Time Server Crisis, could have missed it as well.
But three? And with an ISO as tiny as ours where about half the posts are restating of the question?

@AV - This head is not the same head that commented on El G you quoted, but would agree that the tell is pretty weak as a scum tell. Really, with Day talk DGB is going to play dumb until scumbuddy LB can come along and "direct" the hydra? I do not foresee the tell as worth spit in determining alignment one way or the other. Do you really think there plan is to do blatant coaching in thread? Because that's what you're advancing if you buy that tell as you've described.

[AurorusVox]

this is exactly how DGB played as town in SA2 fme

Have you played with him when he was scum?

[Furcolow]

it's a WIFOMsnowball
ebwop: no, i'm just saying that's how he played in SA2 ... as town
quit trying to make it null AV or ill change my read on you
im trying to help
im not saying durrr dgb is cleared, i'm saying I am pretty confident el goosuki at least has a 74% chance of investigator, probably higher

[VasudeVa]

GTFO!

Not only did you NOT answer my question, but you FAILED to point out whatever question of yours I didn't answer!

Answer my f@#$&ing question scumbag.

I didn't even ask you anything. Nor do I even see any question there that had anything to do with whatever I'm saying. Now you're just flailing, badly. GogogoTown drive Reaper lynch ftw!

ISO 0 – I believe Furcolow will be a detriment to Town long term. Fact. After seeing his Town performance in Harry Potter and his Scum performance in Bold and the Beautiful I don’t believe he will help Town regardless of alignment. Period. Look at the amount of votes he’s made today, the number of times he’s declared to have ‘caught scum’ only to abandon those reads, and the number of reads he’s flip-flopped on (Fate as a prime example). I very much doubt based on past history and his current contributions that he'll be instrumental in actually getting Cult lynched even if his mercurial reads are correct. Not sure what you intended to say after “not just”.
ISO 4 – What in the hell are you trying to say here? Back there I posited that Furc could be passing of his own crafting of a Fetish on El Goo (which would cause El Goo to hear noise) as a Ward (which would also cause El Goo to hear noise). You attack that states the Ward would prevent a Fetish is factually correct but doesn’t even apply to my argument.
ISO 9-10 – If you don’t think that it is odd that suddenly Furcolow, who reacts with the speed of a diabetic hummingbird to accusatory posts, took that long to respond with the simple statement as to who he actually sent his protect in on I don’t know what to say. Certainly nothing fluffy about it.

ISO-0: I messed up here, apparently. I intended to add something along the lines of 'not just policy lynch people right off the bat.'.
ISO 4 - No. It doesn't make sense for Furc-scum to fakeclaim 'Craft Fetish' as a 'Ward'. Because if he DID ward El Goo, El Goo shouldn't die from a Ritual(barring future nights of CF-ing but that's another story and it can easily be cross checked through claims.)
ISO 9-10 – Fluffy of course! Timestamps don't mean anything. Maybe Furcolow had to go to the bathroom, or whatever. Those attacks are horrible and you deserve scrutiny for it. You are implying daytalk shenanigans for something that is inherently null.

So you linked to Mega Man Mini 1008 as an example of a game I’m ‘Sort of Town’ in despite the fact that I didn’t play in that game?

And you linked to Personal Agenda Mafia as an example of a game where I was ‘Real Town’? Despite that fact that I was a 3rd Party Jester?

For someone who likes to stalk you do a craptastic job of it. When you find a scum game of mine that demonstrates me doing what you are suggesting here we can talk. Otherwise I’ll just assume you are being your regular, fairly incompetent self here (Advance Wars Mafia anyone?).

And apparently, I messed up my links. I really should check those links before posting. >.>.

I meant to say link Personal Agenda Mafia with you as the 3rd Party jester as the 'not so Town game' and Perpetual MyLo Mafia as the 'Town' game. (Not gonna try linking this time.)

Although your abrasive defense and rather unwarranted attempt to discredit me is noted.

Oh, you dislike it. Ok. When you can demonstrate scum motivation and history for it come back and see me.

Ohh yes I dislike it, hur hur hur. And after you're done bussing your buddy RC here, You'll see more of me D2.

[Furcolow]

Andrius - leaning town
AurorusVox - neutral to scum
Baby Spice - scum, possible VI-nvestigator
Benmage - if he's cult, he's an idiot. we'll see when fate dies/doesn't die
Bowser - might be scum. if they're town, they feel too lazy to help. how many posts do they even have on a hydra?
El Goosuki - fairly sure they're town. leaning town on them.
Fate - scum
Feysal - town imo
Furcolow - town
Furpants_Tom - town
hitorogoshi - town
kunkstar7 - leaning town, somewhat neutral
Lost Butterfly - scum
MagnaofIllusion - scum
manho - town
nopointinactingup - town based upon his last post, but SSBF raised my eyebrows sometimes
Plum - I figured she was town, but she is not taking control like i've seen her do as town
ReaperCharlie - I figured he was town, but he is taking control like i've seen him do as scum
rewq455 - town
Seacore - scum
SpyreX - town
totallynotmafia - town
Triglav - leaning town
Trilobite - town, wow, so town
VasudeVa - scum
VP Baltar - town
Wickedestjr - town
xvart - town, though i hate to admit it


the scumteam:
aurorusvox
babyspice
fate
LB
MoI
Seacore
VasudeVa - you all are like what, VasudeVa? Here is my case on him:
he votes LB before reading. why? distancing. He then goes on to vote Seacore and MoI, his other scumbuddies, for distancing.
They're all not trying to hop onto reapercharlie and make an actual wagon on a good townie

we cannot stand by, as investigators, and let this happen
you all claim i am confirmed, well let's lynch someone on my list
i don't give a fuck who
quickwagon someone NOW

[Furcolow]

i would feel MUCH happier with LB/MoI/Vas because they are good players
babyspice/seacore/AV don't worry me at all

[Furcolow]

actually, i am fairly suspicious of triglav as well

[Furcolow]

vote: lost butterfly

[AurorusVox]

quit trying to make it null AV or ill change my read on you

I'm not trying to make it null, I just wanted to know if you had anything to compare it with. I think his play has been suspicious and so I didn't want to just roll over on it without at least trying to find out the details of your meta.

Do you really think there plan is to do blatant coaching in thread? Because that's what you're advancing if you buy that tell as you've described.

No, I do not think that is the plan, and I'm not saying him asking for LB's summary is a scumtell (he's asked plenty of people). I'm saying that El G's willingness to follow others

as expressed in his appeal to LB

in the post I quoted

contradicts

his unwillingness to follow Fate into

voting for LB

.

[SpyreX]

THANK YOU

Unvote, Vote: RC

Yo yo AV-sama did you address this:

"Except, of course, it was Hit who detailed the mod side of it before he did.
And, of course, my first post says Fur is town regardless of confirmation-gate."

in the madness times?

And back to furpants:

Group A = People I think are probably scum
Group B = People I think are probably town
Groups A + B are exclusive.

Group 1 = People who are dogpiled
Group 2 = People who are not dogpiled
Groups 1 + 2 are exclusive, but both can co-exist with A or B.

That's all well and good HOWEVER that wasn't what I was saying. If you think someone being wagoned is scum and someone not being wagoned is scum why, every time thus far, is it the dude with no wagon thats getting a teehee vote?

[MagnaofIllusion]

ISO 4 - No. It doesn't make sense for Furc-scum to fakeclaim 'Craft Fetish' as a 'Ward'. Because if he DID ward El Goo, El Goo shouldn't die from a Ritual(barring future nights of CF-ing but that's another story and it can easily be cross checked through claims.)
ISO 9-10 – Fluffy of course! Timestamps don't mean anything. Maybe Furcolow had to go to the bathroom, or whatever. Those attacks are horrible and you deserve scrutiny for it. You are implying daytalk shenanigans for something that is inherently null.

ISO 4 – This makes no sense. Unless El Goo never AGAIN hears noises your grand theory blows up. And you say nothing about the possibility that El Goo might be, you know, Cult and thus would never get NKed.
ISO 9-10 – Opinion opinion opinion with a touch of rhetoric. I’m more than happy to face scrunity. Once again you haven’t provide a scum motivation.

And apparently, I messed up my links. I really should check those links before posting. >.>.

I meant to say link Personal Agenda Mafia with you as the 3rd Party jester as the 'not so Town game' and Perpetual MyLo Mafia as the 'Town' game. (Not gonna try linking this time.)

Although your abrasive defense and rather unwarranted attempt to discredit me is noted.

Funny that the whole crux of your argument is that Town Magna is aggressive. If you actually read Personal Agenda Mafia and MYLO Mafia you would see I’m at my most aggressive in the first game. Thanks for hosting such a wonder TeaParty!

Should I question why you chose to go for two Mini Themed games, which have less than half the population of this game, as opposed to my completed Large Theme games in an attempt to present damaging meta?

Don’t get your emotions all hurt VV. If you make crappy attacks I’m going to call them such.

Ohh yes I dislike it, hur hur hur. And after you're done bussing your buddy RC here, You'll see more of me D2.

DURP. The pointless bussing allegation. Classic.