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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:27 am
by PeregrineV
Shadow Dancer wrote:You should have skilled one level of assassinate :P
Peregrine is online, I am very curious what
he
has to say.


Well, he has to read 15+ pages. and he has to figure out who claimed what. And he has to separate the chaff from the bullshit, so if you want anything before then, you're welcome to ask. However, it will be based on the fact that the first part has not happened yet.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:28 am
by Timeater
here pere lemme update the claimlist for you

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:35 am
by Shadow Dancer
No, wait. Pere, without reading you claim your role and skills right
now
. DO IT!

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:36 am
by Timeater
lolwut

dont vig pere bro

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:40 am
by Mist Beauty
Hinduragi wrote:
Mist Beauty wrote:REALLY HINDU, IS THAT THE BEST YOU'VE GOT? WHY DIDNT YOU LEAP AT FATE WHEN HE CLAIMED SCUM? SO SAD THAT TOWNIES ARE JUMPING AT SARCASM THESE DAYS. JUNPEI, STOP BACKING ME UP, FATE, WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH MY DRAINING SKILL?

unvote


vote peregrineV

LOL

This is EXACTLY why I advised actually reading Defcon 3. Noone can read Fate until they read that game. He claimed scum in there. Only one person rightly read him as town through it. One guess to who it was. Why did you unvote now? And more importantly, what do you think of Junpei?


Shadow Dancer wrote:Seriously? You can't take on Fate so you vote Per now?
I'll so vig you at dawn!


Read my posts. In none do I mention the possibility of Fatescum, that vote was showing that timeeater was only yelling at me for not posting a build, when fate boldly proclaimed the fact.

Timeater wrote:and btw mist i cant wait to hear your bone tongue results tomorrow

will be good to know considering your supposedly impossible to kill and its a non-target self-use skill


If I have the ability, and if it helps town, sure. Since you're not really analyzing people's posts, but rather gathering role information or trying to get others to provide this information, I'm slightly curious as to which roles/abilities you deem inherently scummy.

Right now, I've heard
Bard without lvl 1 silvertongue
Oversoul with an extra level in pickpocket
Me with having lifedrain
Priest for just being priest

The templar has suggested vigging me. What? I'd like to think my posts have helped the town, but I'd like to know your reasoning for doing this on a town Nielwarren.

I'd rather the Alua Vanquisher hammer Junpei.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:45 am
by Timeater
ALERT
ALERT
UPDATED MASSCLAIM LIST #2
POST
ALERT


Timeater: Assassin

Claimed Skillbuild: 0-3-0 (delays all night actions on targeted player, unlimited)

Notes: Claims to have neurotoxin'd Peregrin night 1. Claims to have been targetted by at least rank 2 of Vagabond's (Oversoul) pickpocket.


Kiwieagle: Bard

Claimed Skillbuild: 0-2-1 (Can swap three players targets for one night, can silence one word resulting in the penalty of losing vote.

Notes: Claims to have silenced Fate during the day (D1) to stop him from using curse words.


Hinduragi: Monk

Claimed Skillbuild: 1-2-0 (One double vote and a twoshot option of either watching/protecting/tracking/blocking a single target during the night)

Notes: Claims to have protected Fate N1, making him have only one Nectar left.


Junpei: Priest

Claimed Skillbuild: 3-0-0 (Unlimited doc)

Notes: Claims to have targetted Peregrin N1.


Fate: Immortal

Claimed Skillbuild: 1-1-1 or 2-1-0 or 1-2-0 (Please clarify Fate)

Notes: Since he claims to have lost his "lynch protection and his kill protection" by life drain, he must have two of those skills. Also modconfirmed to have been silenced with the word "fuck".


Oversoul: Vagabond

Claimed Skillbuild: 1-0-2 ("avoids" first action used on him, unlimited rolecop + random skill reduction; also skill reduction only applies to skills a player has selected)

Notes: Claims to have targetted Timeater N1 with Pickpocket. Claims to have been targeted N1 thereby using his 1 rank in sidestep. Because of this, the next time he uses pickpocket it will automatically resolve first and cannot be messed with in anyway.


Riceballtail: Red Wizard

Claimed Skillbuild: ? (Please clarify, RBT)

Notes: Claims to have took no action N1.


Shadow Dancer: Templar

Claimed Skillbuild: Vig and investigatate, unclear

Notes: Claims to have got on innocent on Mist Beauty N1.


Mist Beauty: Nielwarren

Claimed Skillbuild: at least 1 rank in lifedrain, nothing else so far (steals passives from people)

Notes: Claims to have targeted Fate N1


Flinter: Vanquisher

Claimed Skillbuild: 1-0-2 (one in roleblock and two in bomb ability, making a wagoner selectable.)

Notes: Dont think she claimed a block N1.


Peregrine: Mystic by PoE unless counterclaimed

Claimed Skillbuild: ?

Notes: Timeater claims to have targeted him N1 with neurotoxin, Junpei claims to have targeted him N1 with heal.


DEAD:


Necromancer, Pinkie Pie, Scum.
Shadewallker, Mastin, Town.


I just realized...who targeted Oversoul?

Seriously?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:48 am
by Mist Beauty
Nvm, flinter went for a more vengeful townie build.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:52 am
by Timeater
Mist wrote:If I have the ability, and if it helps town, sure.
Since you're not really analyzing people's posts
, but rather gathering role information or trying to get others to provide this information, I'm slightly curious as to which roles/abilities you deem inherently scummy.


Please.

Just because its not immediately apparent to you what I'm doing, dont accuse me of not scumhunting. Its getting really tiresome. I am comitted to wrangling in the massclaim because I started it, and would like to see it done properly without people trying to weasel out of all its implications.

I find the builds of a few people quite scummy but of course
some
of that can be played of as poor judgment.

Did you lifedrain Oversoul too?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:54 am
by Shadow Dancer
No, it's OK. You can hammer now. Flinter did not skill bloodlust.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:56 am
by Timeater
unvote

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:56 am
by Shadow Dancer
@time
: Sorry if this was unclear. I thought I was pretty open about it. Obviously I skilled cop[2], vig[1]. No use for a "hidden" vig shot.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:57 am
by Timeater
k

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:57 am
by Timeater
I'm actually going to give him his 12 hours.

So yeah.

@Shadow -

What would you say your scumtells are?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:59 am
by Shadow Dancer
Sorry, I don't see wha your question is al about.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:00 am
by Timeater
When you are playing scum, what would you say gives you away?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:03 am
by Mist Beauty
So you admit that you're not analyzing peoples' posts. Which is just great.

I don't see any reason for me to disclose information which doesn't assist the town in some manner. Take Fate for example, as the Barbarian Immortal who doesn't want to post a skillbuild for the scum. Scum don't know if he is unkillable by NK, or by mislynch, and how much his death will cost them. He can be anything. Likewise, I can be anything, which should worry scum, but not town players. Also, shadow dancer got an innocent result on me. But I don't need to provide reasons for towncred, we're talking about skillbuilds. I'll be around tomorrow to let you know anything
if it helps the town.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:03 am
by Timeater
I never admitted that. Are you serious? Nice misrep.

You are seriously dumb or seriously scum.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:04 am
by Mist Beauty
Please quote for me your indepth analysis/awesome scumhunting efforts.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:05 am
by Mist Beauty
I'd prefer something more like "XXX voted for Y at this time when the wagons were equal, further Z..." rather than "DERP, he has lvl 2 pickpocket, so scummy!"

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:06 am
by Mist Beauty
Usually, when people ignore serious parts of a post, they either didn't see them, agree, or have no response. Like I'm making the assumption that you understand why we aren't posting builds at this point.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:07 am
by Timeater
Rofl I dont have to do shit for you. I wont play that bullshit game. You wont draw me into a PbP wall war. Nice try.

Like it was said earlier, dont confuse playstyles with the player. I dont think you could comprehend the level of play some of the people here are playing at.

Also, in what crazy world do you live in where a bone tongue result would NOT BENEFIT THE TOWN?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:23 am
by Mist Beauty
My argument is not that bonetongue doesn't necessarily help town, but rather "stop rolefishing, I'm not giving any information tomorrow unless it helps the town." A bonetongue result linked to a player (if flavor links hard into ONE role) obviously falls into this category.

As for not finding any analysis, that's fine. I think there hasn't been much since the few posts in day 1. Can you explain to me how knowing RiceballTail's skillbuild helps the town? PeregrineV's I'm not so sure because many of us have a scumread on him, but if he were town, we'd be making scum's job that much easier.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:24 am
by Timeater
If you lifedrain again you're getting lynched tomorrow.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:25 am
by Mist Beauty
Lol Nope.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:25 am
by Mist Beauty
I'll probably lifedrain some people to verify skillbuilds.