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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:27 pm
by Glork
This is even WORSE than when I thought it was scumgroup+SK and just no crosskills. This is a fucking TRAVESTY.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:28 pm
by BBmolla
What happened to the SPP votes at the end guys?
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:28 pm
by GreyICE
Wait, Dazzy redirected your vig off obvscum BB?
That's how he survived?
Welp, I think I did good. Replaced in, tunneled scum, figured out who most of the town was, I assume my bulletproof ate a night kill. Okay, I vigged Inte, but this was under the assumption BBMolla would be dead, so well.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:28 pm
by Glork
Also, Grey, this is why you should have just lynched the cop-investigated Troll. No fucking clue what you were thinking, but regardless of your alignment, going after BBMolla should have been the play.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:29 pm
by GreyICE
Also.
Just for the record.
Secret miller roles who don't know they're millers?
That's bastard moderation, right there.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:30 pm
by GreyICE
↑ Glork wrote:Also, Grey, this is why you should have just lynched the cop-investigated Troll. No fucking clue what you were thinking, but regardless of your alignment, going after BBMolla should have been the play.
I WAS A TROLL:
Johoohno wrote:GreyICE wrote:Alright!
Brilliant! Below is your role-PM (your predecessor nominated Glork N1) and you are free to post in the thread as soon as I've made an announcement of the replacing (which will be within minutes from this PM:s time stamp):
Name:
Fart the Flatulent
Fluff:
Whadda dat smell? Dinnertime? Awww dose kute green gobbo wanna play. Dey look kinda tasty but Grutto da Great once told you not to eat during play. Musta remember dat.
Team:
Grutto’s Gangsta’s
Role:
Troll
Race:
Troll
Ability:
•
One shot bullet proof:
Being strong has it’s advantages. The first attempt to night kill you will fail, however being stupid makes you unaware of the attempt.
•
Voting:
You all know how this work.
•
Nominate:
Who should get the MVP-award each day cycle (see the rules what effects this has).
Position:
thrower
Win condition:
You win when all the threats against Grutto’s Gangsta’s have been eliminated.
LOOK
RACE
TROLL
YOU WANT ME TO LIE TO THE TOWN AND GO ALONG WITH AN INVESTIGATION THAT MIGHT GET TOWN LYNCHED FOLLOWED BY YOU, WHO WAS OBVIOUS TOWN, BEING LYNCHED?
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:32 pm
by Glork
I meant after Pere died. :/
Whatever. Secret millers is bastard moderation, and giving a scumgroup two nightkills in a mini is fucking terrible design.
We deserved this one and got right fucked up the ass.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:32 pm
by BBmolla
We probably should have done a race rolecall from the start, no?
My issue with this was just reliance on flavor.
P-Edit: Wtf your role was troll?
Johoohno wrote:
Name:
Muck the Measels infested
Fluff:
I'm hungry. My tummy is growling. Gotta find me a snacksy bit.
Team:
Gobbos of ol'mighty Nurgle (a.k.a. GooN)
Role:
Goon
Race:
Troll
Ability:
One shot bullet proof:
Being strong has it's advantages. The first attempt to night kill you will fail, however being stupid makes you unaware of the attempt.
Hungry:
Every even night you may try to eat another player. You will succeed only if that player happens to be on the same position as you. Success means that player is killed.
Communicating:
You are allowed to communicate with your fellow scums (PeregrineV
and Slandaar
) during the night phases and a during confirmations. You find the thread for said communication here (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/tpRZCw9gg2p2s)
Voting:
You all know how this work.
Nominate:
You are not allowed to nominate (only the good guys may do that).
Position:
catcher
Win condition:
You win when GooN constitutes at least half the number of living players, or nothing can prevent that from happening.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:33 pm
by BBmolla
↑ Glork wrote:We deserved this one and got right fucked up the ass.
I agree.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:33 pm
by GreyICE
TROLLS ARE TYPICALLY ALIGNED WITH GOBLINS IN BLOOD BOWL
ONCE I CHECKED MY ROLE PM AND STARTED CALCULATING IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS:
Town - Trolls, goblins
Scum - Evil shit
That way the flavor cop was ambiguous, while still getting useful results.
BUT NOPE
IT WAS JUST A COP
I JUST WASN'T TOLD I WAS A MILLER
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:34 pm
by BBmolla
Glork I was One-Shot BP that's probably where your vig went.
Why I was One-Shot BP is beyond me.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:35 pm
by Glork
Wait wait wait wait.
So not only did you have two kills per night effectively.
But our Vig attempt on you was a complete waste, too?
And we had NO protective roles outside of the SPP system, which we were already using on failed vig attempts we couldn't see coming?
Remind me never to play in a Johoohno game again. This is beyond atrocious.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:35 pm
by GreyICE
Frankly, the fact the town lost with only one mislynch should explain exactly why this setup was an example of horrible design and should be burned at the stake.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:36 pm
by GreyICE
↑ BBmolla wrote:Glork I was One-Shot BP that's probably where your vig went.
Why I was One-Shot BP is beyond me.
So you were the one shot BP modified Serial Killer who happened to be aligned with the mafia.
NOPE
THIS GAME NEVER HAPPENED
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:37 pm
by BBmolla
Scum literally had the best case scenario happen to them besides getting lynched.
I think I was the only BP, we managed to get lucky with our extra kill n1, as well as getting lucky with our extra kill n2. Then I get vigged, but I'm the BP'd member so it doesn't go through.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:37 pm
by GreyICE
I can't believe we worked through all the goddamn VIs that we had
To determine exactly the scum team with a single solitary mislynch
And lost because we couldn't understand the MECHANICS FROM THE BLACK LAGOON
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:38 pm
by GreyICE
↑ BBmolla wrote:Scum literally had the best case scenario happen to them besides getting lynched.
I think I was the only BP, we managed to get lucky with our extra kill n1, as well as getting lucky with our extra kill n2. Then I get vigged, but I'm the BP'd member so it doesn't go through.
NO
THE BEST CASE SCENARIO INVOLVES MORE THAN ONE TOWN LYNCH
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:38 pm
by GreyICE
Seriously.
Basic principles of game design insist that the town is not in LyLo after the FIRST MISLYNCH
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:39 pm
by BBmolla
I'm just saying we got unpredictably lucky.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:40 pm
by Glork
"Unpreditably lucky" isn't a factor.
ANY game in which the town mislynches D1 (standard) then lynches correctly D2, D3, and vigges the last scum N3...
should NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER,
lose. Ever.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:41 pm
by GreyICE
↑ Glork wrote:"Unpreditably lucky" isn't a factor.
ANY game in which the town mislynches D1 (standard) then lynches correctly D2, D3, and vigges the last scum N3...
should NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER,
lose. Ever.
Yeah, this.
It's not like we even misvigged much. I vigged Inte based on the idea that BBMolla was going to die, otherwise I would have vigged BBMolla.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:22 pm
by inte
grey you should've saved the troll information till after it was a perceived mislynch
i prob would of believed it more if bbmolla flipped town cause i wasn't gonna start doubting glork with his cop claim, it was too believable
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:22 pm
by inte
also, idk why yall just didnt lynch bbmolla and gamble it the last night with dazzy yaetes and grey
i told you he was obvscum
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:26 pm
by GreyICE
↑ inte wrote:grey you should've saved the troll information till after it was a perceived mislynch
i prob would of believed it more if bbmolla flipped town cause i wasn't gonna start doubting glork with his cop claim, it was too believable
Look at it from my perspective.
You have information that the lynch, IN LYLO that you are about to undertake may be on town.
Do you claim said information, y/n?
Yes, it turned out to be bad to claim, but I still don't fucking understand why any townie in their right mind would do ANYTHING other than claim it right then and there.
Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:27 pm
by GreyICE
↑ inte wrote:also, idk why yall just didnt lynch bbmolla and gamble it the last night with dazzy yaetes and grey
i told you he was obvscum
Yates wouldn't vote BBMolla.