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[borkjerfkin]

1025 is a giant misrep

[borkjerfkin]

Found it:

I like KoC's last post. Guessing he actually is town.

OK, this is town-AP.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Piratecat

AP switched a read so he's town?

Really?

scratch that I'm taking that out of context ignore

[Piratecat]

1025 is a giant misrep

the only thing that can be construed as a misrep in that post is me saying he was accusing me of vote hopping.

that is the only thing

.

his reads have been all over the place bit every as much as mine/ours have. and no matter which way you look at it that is either hypocritical or projection, the motivation would be dependent on his alignment.

what the fuck is wrong with you.

[borkjerfkin]

yeah I'll go ahead and address that maybe when you can be a little more civil cause I'm really not in the mood.

[Piratecat]

Found it:

I like KoC's last post. Guessing he actually is town.

OK, this is town-AP.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Piratecat

AP switched a read so he's town?

Really?

scratch that I'm taking that out of context ignore

oh like what pidgeywidgey did with us? but you are okay that he cherry picked and built a case around it that slaandar bit into?

[Piratecat]

yeah I'll go ahead and address that maybe when you can be a little more civil cause I'm really not in the mood.

well I did a post edit of deleting the JESUSMOTHERFUCKINGCHIST and I don't think I have insulted you, not once.

I

am

trying to be civil. I am truly not seeing where you are coming from and I am struggling to see how you think that pidgeywidgey's OMGUS vote is in anyway legit.

it should be pretty obvious that interact with people who are in the game in real time. if I want to talk to someone I am usually "where the fuck are you?". like I have been trying to put steady pressure on the kernel cos they are not interacting with us!!!! how people have them in their town pile is a mystery all I can think of is that they are walking around with faerie dust in their pockets and blowing it in people's faces and suddenly people are like, "oh, they are so town". cos they aren't! if they are we are not seeing it.

[borkjerfkin]

^^ (two above)
I don't know what you're trying to say here -- he's not calling AP town for the read change he's saying AP genuinely believes there are 2 and not 3 scum on his wagon.

AP's thing with you was very much about cognitive dissonance of reads and never anything about vote hopping, which is what you tried to paint it as (and are still trying to do so as recently as 1052)

The fact that you came in later and said your read change had to do with my interaction with him when you never once prior referred to that is difficult for me to believe. AP mentioned this himself in #1034 and I agree with him.

As far as the legitimacy of his votes -- AP's done plenty of questionable shit this game; that's not the issue here. I'm not trying to determine your alignment with respect to his or vice versa at this point in the game.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, well the direction I was going in my last post is probably irrelevant given the latest posts.

Mollie, here is what I don't get. You don't even consider that I am possibly seeing something weird in your post? At all? You went from calling me a townread to talking about me with Bork (whom you really haven't talked to THAT much) and you SUGGEST that he should stop talking to me. Why do you care that Bork is talking to me? You claim that his interactions with me is what caused you to go fro mtown-PA to scum-AP between your 2 posts, but you are asking Bork why he is talking to me as if to suggest he shouldn't be. Why??

P-edit: Ok, answer the above then. I really do not understand why your read changed and you are pretending like there was nothing weird about it.

The facts: You DID go from calling me town to saying Im scummy.
You DID NOT explicit say why other than that I've been out of sync with you all game (and if that read on me really is from a holistic vantage, why was I a townread 1 post before?)
You DID passively encourage Bork to stop talking to me for reasons you haven't explained despite me mentioning its weird of you to do that.

The fact that you don't see why I am suspicious as about you fuck because of those ^ is weird as hell. Weird. as. hell. Even if you 'knoiw' I'm wrong, how do you not see any of that as probably weird to me?

[Ms Marangal]

yeah I'll go ahead and address that maybe when you can be a little more civil cause I'm really not in the mood.

well I did a post edit of deleting the JESUSMOTHERFUCKINGCHIST and I don't think I have insulted you, not once.

I

am

trying to be civil. I am truly not seeing where you are coming from and I am struggling to see how you think that pidgeywidgey's OMGUS vote is in anyway legit.

it should be pretty obvious that interact with people who are in the game in real time. if I want to talk to someone I am usually "where the fuck are you?". like I have been trying to put steady pressure on the kernel cos they are not interacting with us!!!! how people have them in their town pile is a mystery all I can think of is that they are walking around with faerie dust in their pockets and blowing it in people's faces and suddenly people are like, "oh, they are so town". cos they aren't! if they are we are not seeing it.

who's reading the uberguille Hydra as town? I'm not seeing how they are town

[Venmar]

Votecount 1.11

[L-10]

Colonel Guile:

Bitmap

[L-11] Messiah:

[L-5]

Slandaar:

Majiffy, Messiah, PirateCat, borkjerfkin, Knight of Cydonia, CryoNudist

[L-10]

CryoNudist:

mastin2

[L-11] Angelious Nero:

[L-7]

PirateCat:

havingfitz, AngryPidgeon, qwints, Slandaar

[L-11] Borkjerfkin:

[L-11] Majiffy:

[L-9]

AngryPidgeon:

Colonel Guile, Angelous Nero

[L-11] The Goat:

[L-11] Mac:

[L-11] Approximately Normal Guy:

[L-11] Ms Marangal:

[L-11] Bitmap:

[L-11] Jal:

[L-10]

Knight of Cydonia:

PeregrineV

[L-10]

mastin2:

Jal

[L-11] PeregrineV:

[L-11] qwints:

[L-11] havingfitz:

[L-9]

GuyinFreezer:

Approximately Normal Guy, Mac

Not Voting

• Ms Marangal, GuyInFreezer, The Goat

Deadline

• April 2, 2013

Mod Notes

• Mastin2 is V/LA for a while.
  
• Currently seeking a replacement for GuyInFreezer
  
  
• Prodding Angelious Nero
  
  
• Also will be looking for a replacement for ANG, for not picking up his prod

[Ms Marangal]

... oh god, Slandaar is Terrible. his push against Cryo is terrible, and his argument against Jiffy is terrible, but I'm adamant to believe that the guy is actually scum. as terrible as he's been these last couple pages, I just think he has a really, really, really bad case of Tunnel vision who can't accept that he's actually wrong about something. I'm not seeing why his scum-tells are scum-tells, and the fact that he's stated that "I'll play the way I want to play" is what really makes me think he's town.


Slandaar, talk to me. what exactly are you trying to point out as a scum tell, and why exactly do you believe it to be a scum-tell?

I'm liking qwints more for a vote now, as his post before the vote was IIoA and his vote on Mollie makes no sense at all whatsoever. in fact, ALL his posts are IIoA and there's the fact that he's inactive.

[The Goat]

MOD: I will be l/va for about a week, starting today. Definitely out for the day, and am unsure about Internet access.

I'd like to think I'll at least have phone posting ability.

I do not know where this piratekitty wagon came from, and I'm not entirely sure I like it, specifically the way AP comes off. Will examine.

A couple thoughts:

1) I agree with post 1060, in that I can't quite be certain if Slandaar is scum, but he's giving me the heebie-jeebies something fierce with the last few pages. Leaning scum on him.

2) There's gonna be a lot to examine D2 from the wagons that formed on D1.

3) IMSHO, there's a difference between examining and questioning someone's posts in the hopes of finding scum...and arguing with another poster for the sake of arguing. It looks like there's a lot of the latter going on, and it's confusing the hell out of me.

[Slandaar]

oh like what pidgeywidgey did with us? but you are okay that he cherry picked and built a case around it that slaandar bit into?

Oh? Yet I had you scum a while ago? you OMGUSed me as I recall. Isn't that a scumtell? you seem to think so.

My case is thus; Pirate and Cryo are obviousl buddies I don't care which gets lynched first the quote below shows Pirate is clearly scum as there is a clear change of opinion of me from the one game we played together therefore she is changing her view to suit her needs.

That is the end of it; Pirate is obviously scum, Cryo is obviously scum; lynch them.

@slaandar
do you remember how in the titanium game you thought I made a "slip" and then you trolleytacked on me like a mofo until I was lynched on d1? nearly ragequit the site after that, I have never seen such town stupidity from a lot of players

you are simply not as good as you think you are and you push horrible cases but I am chalking that up to the hubristic driven arrogance of youth which you need to get in check tbh.

slaandar looks awful. not the clear headed logical minded slaandar that I got to know in our previous game together.

Whats her needs? the first quote was at a time I was tunnelling Cryo her buddy; the second is where I am leading wagon she wants to encourage the lynch.

No Problem town.

[Knight of Cydonia]

@Marangal: I'm not reading Guile as anything, because he's not frakking posting anything. Which worries me since it's so different from both their usual playstyles.

[Mac]

#1062 is actually quite a good point by Slan: molliekittens can you explain please?

[Slandaar]

KoC is scum because: (and I did show this before)

...I'm genuinely not sure if you're wilfully misinterpreting me at this point or just stupid.

Lets find out:

Its a logical fallacy to suggest you can't be scum unless there is a case showing you are.

It is a falsehood to suggest that you can't be scum unless there is a case showing you are.

The prime example of this is Thor, he does this as scum, suggesting that because there isn't a case he can't be scum. Which is clearly untrue

KoC:

...no. No it isn't.

How is it not a falsehood? let us look at this;

So; if X is scum; Y says they think X is scum but has no case gut etc; X can't be scum?

I see.

And then KoC is like STOP IGNORING MY POINT. What point? the spew about oh but if there are no cases then its all random accusations?

That has nothing to do with my case. At all.

[Slandaar]

I will do a Majiffy case in a bit and then I am done arguing with all these scum its annoying.

[Slandaar]

If your playstyle is scummy,

If my playstyle that I use in everygame is scummy ie 75% of the time I will flip town;

I'm going to lynch you for being scummy.

You can see hes scum from this alone; nowhere does he try to discern town from scum he just decides my playstyle is scummy. (scum thought process)

You still haven't explained why that makes me scum.

Because Majiffy is not trying to actually read me

Its a disguised kind of PL; My original case was; attack on playstyle; its the same thing

This quote proves it though.

[Slandaar]

Simple is best, I need to remember that sometimes.

[CryoChemist]

We'd like to tell you all a quick story:

Once upon a time there was a scumlord playing his scumlordy games:

----Slandaar: 'ZOMG, CRYO IS SCUM', 'Did I mention cryo was scum?', 'guys, cryo is scum', 'more votes cryo', 'vote cryo to lynch scum'.....

The good people of Cryotown (who were all nudists...AND super good looking) had recognized this scumlord from before and called him on his scumlordy play:

----Cryo: 'Slandaar, your tunneling reminds us of a game where you did the same thing and flipped scum....looking like a scum tell for you at this point...'

The scumlord thought he was sly and changed it up immediately:

----Slandaar: 'uh.......crap.....uh.......' 'oooh, I know!...AP is scum', 'KoC is scum', 'PC is scum', 'MaJiffy is scum'....Hope everyone sees I'm not tunneling now....

The good people of Cryotown saw through it and convinced the surrounding towns to kill the scum. The end.

[Messiah]

Those are seriously the worst "cases" I've ever seen, Slandaar. Is there a reason your main method of casting suspicion on other players has been twisting their motivations to portray them in the way that suits your narrative the best in the face of the obvious?

--

I actually see the point AP is trying to make w/r/t bork's reads wall and I kind of agree with it. I find it hard to believe that everyone getting in his face about it has such a hard time with the concept.

Speaking of AP, he seems really genuinely frustrated/upset and out of his mind at this game. He's very likely town.

[Slandaar]

The events are out of order. Good try though. I also like the part where you don't include my townmeta you have.

[Slandaar]

Those are seriously the worst "cases" I've ever seen, Slandaar.

Oh?

Explain how Pirate isn't scum to me again

Use real simple english to show how her completely flipping what she said about me from the said game isn't scum.

[Messiah]

The KoC and Majiffy case posts just above us were the ones I was actually referencing. It's nice to see that you chose the PirateCat one, though. You clearly know the other two aren't defensible.

[Slandaar]

lol

No, I just know which looks the strongest as its a stonewall case.

the other 2 are a little less obvious but its still pretty clear.

I love the backtracking though.