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not really although I wouldn't mind a serra shot either just so he automatically loses and can't fuck with us anymore

But that is me being spiteful so do what yo uwish

In post 1050, Oversoul wrote:not really although I wouldn't mind a serra shot either just so he automatically loses and can't fuck with us anymore

Such a shot (if one exists) following this would be more advised than one on syr.

BB, I don't recall you saying why Syr is scum. Refresh my mind if you have, plz?

Don't remember tbh.

Voidedmafia: No. I have no need for you to respond to my questions. I have no need to point out any lies, because my words do not form the basis of the case against you. I won't engage in a pointless exchange just so you can troll me. To everyone else, you can ignore anything I said to or about Voidedmafia since I'm not backing it up. There. Are we done here? I am.

In post 1053, The Rufflig wrote:because my words do not form the basis of the case against you

After you make multiple posts detailing how I'm a lying scumbag? REALLY?!

In post 1053, The Rufflig wrote:I have no need to point out any lies

You're one of the ones who're saying I'm lying, you can provide the evidence to show it!

In post 1053, The Rufflig wrote:I won't engage in a pointless exchange just so you can troll me.

When, exactly, have I "trolled" you? I've responded to your questions. Any ones where I've responded with a question are related to areas that require you to show proof of your accusations, which you continue to not provide. Elsewise I have been very compliant in responding to anything you've asked, and have likewise requested things of you that you have still not provided.

In post 1053, The Rufflig wrote:To everyone else, you can ignore anything I said to or about Voidedmafia since I'm not backing it up. There. Are we done here? I am.

So everything you're saying and have said is a baseless accusation? Is that what I'm supposed to glean from this?

Though, to be quite frank, half of it sure looks like gross misreprentations of what I've actually said (or outright fabrications), so...

In post 1053, The Rufflig wrote:Are we done here? I am

I'm not.

Answer my fucking questions and respond to my damn requests.

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Ok, I got it now. The message you received at the start of day 2 said that I was town aligned, didn't it? You never used the ability that shos gave you.

*goes off grumbling to himself "I can't believe ..." *

...what?

...wait, wait, wait, just what the fuck are you talking about?

You received an inspect ability from shos at the break of day 2. Later that day, but still very early on, you received a message stating that The Rufflig is town. Your inspect ability did not spontaneously activate and target a random player. You still have that inspect ability since you've never used it!

Wut?

Voided, im.not asking you to claim your role, only what yhe ability was and its resilts.

Rufflig, are you actually claiming friendly neighbour? How the hell did this not cross your mind at any point before now?

In post 1059, shos wrote:Wut?

Voided, im.not asking you to claim your role, only what yhe ability was and its resilts.

Again, IF we are doing a massclaim, I'll say so then.

In post 1058, The Rufflig wrote:You received an inspect ability from shos at the break of day 2. Later that day, but still very early on, you received a message stating that The Rufflig is town. Your inspect ability did not spontaneously activate and target a random player. You still have that inspect ability since you've never used it!

...you srs?

Voided what reason you habe for not sharing the info. It is not ypur role anymore amd it might confirm you or something if youre town.

In post 1062, shos wrote:Voided what reason you habe for not sharing the info. It is not ypur role anymore amd it might confirm you or something if youre town.

Because if we're doing a massclaim in the near future (within the week) I'm going to be revealing it then anyways, and I'd rather have all the information be on one post.

Besides, since I apparantly haven't used it I don't really see how it'd confirm me.

Are you saying you did receive the message that Ruff is town?

Would you believe me if I said that I wasn't some flavor of neighbor? Yes, I am a neighbor though I won't state what type, yet. I'm pretty sure you can guess who my day 3 target was. Day 1 ended before I used my ability.

The reason it didn't cross my mind was because I knew damn well that I sent the msg to xylbot on day 2 after Voidedmafia had checked in and posted a few times. It didn't occur to me that Voidedmafia might have flubbed up reading the ability that he got from shos and combined it with my day 2 event into one impossible event. I suspect no other player here would have combined the two events in such a manner. I was supposed to easily decipher his blunder into the correct series of events? (Although, if Voidedmafia had cleaned up his statements without making me drag it out of him maybe ... ). Once Voidedmafia checked the time stamps and stated that the ability went off on day 2, it took a little time to sink in as I was already convinced that he was scum.

Oh, I wanted to share one more thing that I dug up.

If a Malfunctioning Inventor gives out an role it is one of the following:
Inspect: normal, naive, paranoid or 100% failure
Block: normal, 50% failure or 100% failure
Kill: normal, 50% failure or 100% failure
Protect: normal, 50% failure or 100% failure
Equal chances all around.

Apparently, it isn't always so easy to see if the inventor is malfunctioning or not.

Huh, where did you dig those out from? I had suspected something like that, but whether shos would have known is then a different question.

Given all the partial stuff that's been revealed, I would agree that a massclaim seems like a good idea, but then my opinion doesn't really count :/

I am still sort of hesitant to believe this whole thing was just a mixture of derp and coincidence. It only came out because I claimed to have blocked Voided, so it all just seems like too much coincidence.

I dug it out of one version of the xylbot source code. There are two more versions of the inventor contained therein which are not in the posted list. The source I looked at did not contain radioactive friendly neighbor, but had the other two flavors of neighbor. So, take the information with a grain of salt.

In post 1064, serrapaladin wrote:Are you saying you did receive the message that Ruff is town?

Yes.

In post 1065, The Rufflig wrote:It didn't occur to me that Voidedmafia might have flubbed up reading the ability that he got from shos and combined it with my day 2 event into one impossible event

It looked like a message that might've been given from my ability, hence why I thought I had used it. Not so much flubbing reading as making an incorrect connection between to irrelevant PMs.

In post 1065, The Rufflig wrote:I was supposed to easily decipher his blunder into the correct series of events? (Although, if Voidedmafia had cleaned up his statements without making me drag it out of him maybe ... ). Once Voidedmafia checked the time stamps and stated that the ability went off on day 2, it took a little time to sink in as I was already convinced that he was scum.

Well, still think I was quite clear on the sequence of events <_<.

I suppose it's true that revealing more about what I had gained would've been more helpful in resolving this, but up to this point I saw no reason to state my ability and what I percieved (at the time) to be the result from it, or any corresponding information (such as timestamps).

I still contend two of the questions you posed were based on imaginary information you had on me, though.

In post 1067, serrapaladin wrote:I am still sort of hesitant to believe this whole thing was just a mixture of derp and coincidence. It only came out because I claimed to have blocked Voided, so it all just seems like too much coincidence.

I think the issue might've come up when I eventually claimed what invention I got (if I ever got the chance) or when Rufflig claimed he was a Friendly Neighbor with me, so I don't think it's as indicative as you seem to think it is.

Confirming Rufflig as Friendly Neighbor btw.

Still won't be tonight. Tackling this tomorrow, pinky promise.

Umm, so let me get this straight...

Ruff is a neighbor, who targeted Voided and confirmed his alignment
Voided somehow thought that Ruff's confirmation was thanks to the invention
Shos is no longer conf town
Ruff is now conf town

Is that more or less it?

I dont get it.

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||| MAFIABOT || Syryana - 2 (BBmolla Oversoul) |||
||| MAFIABOT || serrapaladin - 2 (Voidedmafia Tierce) |||
||| MAFIABOT || VoidedMafia - 2 (serrapaladin shos) |||

||| MAFIABOT || Living players: BBmolla Tierce serrapaladin shos Syryana The_Rufflig Oversoul Voidedmafia |||

In post 1061, Voidedmafia wrote:!xmafiahelp Friendly Neighbor

||| MAFIABOT || Friendly Neighbor (town; common; 3+ players): During the day, you can make someone your friend. That player will be told your alignment. Actions: (day)friend |||