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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:09 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
In post 1036, GuyInFreezer wrote:In case I wasn't clear enough, I'm asking player-wise.
You know. Like "who did what so he's suspicious." Kind of stuff.
Ok. Let's go.
²: If it's ok, I'm going to read ² as one person and not two separate people. Same goes for Beast. ² is scum to me because he reads TD as scum with little to no base and seems to be ignoring TD's more towny posts.
Aj The Epic: Null-Scum. I perceive AtE in #945 but that's pretty much it.
Andrius: Null, lack of posts.
BeautyAndTheBeast: Town. Reading well and catching things and no scumreads as of yet.
BROseidon: No reads as of yet.
Cabd: Null-Scum, mainly for not specifying reads in #931.
dntfkingcare: Null, lack of posts.
Ghostlin: After an ISO after Varsoon's read, scummy.
GuyInFreezer: Town. No scumreads. I like you asking questions.
jon_h61: no posts.
Mac: Town for the most part, but look at his #811, #821, and #831. Detailed analysis AJ is scummy, waits for nacho to vote, then says he's "considering" voting as well?!?!?
Metal Sonic: Null (no posts)
orcinus_theoriginal: Town. No scumreads, and acts and reads town.
RachMarie: Agree with Mac's #1010. Seems to be ignoring large portions of the game.
Sajin: Null.
Svenskt Stål: Active lurking, seemingly. Active early on but quieter now. Lingering scumreads from the claim and such.
Nachomamma8: Null. Towny early in game, but I feel a little less so about that.
TiphaineDeath: Town, scummy early in game, but did a 180
TMTOLBTWNTOF: No comment
Varsoon: Null, I'm finding it hard to read him.
P EDIT
Gif- I did not "disappear," I was reading all 42 pages and typing this read post the whole goddamn time.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:09 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
if you want me to go more in depth on one or more of the reads, i will do so
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:10 pm
by Varsoon
@GIF: D'oh.
Learned to be skeptical of Nacho,
That I couldn't put Orc in the town pile quite yet,
Orc's quick to abandon wagons and make noise
TD's picking up on the same skepticism of Nacho and is pretty town-motivated, actually (I wanted to press this for awhile, TD's town in my books for now)
2 is pretty aloof.
Cabd's a pro-town sheep.
GIF's playing a sparse, yet careful game.
BRO is skeptical town.
Mac's iffy, but seems town-motivated and careful.
Andrius is pro-town town, and generally thoughtful.
AJ and Sajin, I'm not so sure about. I need to investigate these slots more. Seem like concerned town, but in a way that makes me feel scum may be there.
Anyways, that's a quick read-down of what I can recall from top of my head.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:12 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
how did your Sajin read turn from "for scum" to "not so sure about?"
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:12 pm
by Mac
In post 1048, GuyInFreezer wrote:If I was confident at my English I wouldn't ask this but
Hey Mac. Can you read over my questions on Varsoon so far and see if Varsoon's answer makes sense?
yeah give me 2 seconds to go over it.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:12 pm
by BeautyAndTheBeast
In post 1003, Ghostlin wrote:573, Rach: Where are your scum reads? Do you have scum reads?
577, GiF: [sarcasm]Thanks...because the thread needed that...[/sarcasm]
646, Rach: What....is that a post...is this...revelant? WTF just happened?
663, TD: Could you have given us even gut reads? Checks his scum list N/M.
671, Orc: I don't know if I've ever played with Andrius, but I've read some of his games and he seems more..prolific than this.
675, Var: This shitpile gave me a headache. He wants to be friends with Orc, then votes him, then buddies him as part of the fucking reason for voting him. He's either trolling or being serious and neither one of this is protown and it's fucking CRAP.
676, Var: This just in: trying to be high king shit on high shit mountain is a fucking TOWN tell, not a SCUM one.
Varsoon's case on Orc: It's bad, and you should feel bad. No, really. PBP is a horrible way to make cases, and that's essentally what you do here. I didn't even really bother to read it.
685-686, Mac: Seriously, Mac's cruising this game. None of his posts show higher thought or anything besides things town could figure out on their own.
691, Mac: This is incredibly fence-sitty. Not on Orc, but Varshoon. Who I can't read without getting a headache, his logic is so convulted.
692, Sven: Oh, hi. No, I'm not commenting on this 'case'.
723, Mac: You want my reasoning, fine. You're being intellectually lazy, which is what they're accusing me of. A majority of your posts have been derivative reasoning to 'look town' rather than 'be town'. I've been accused of 'faking it' as scum before and honestly, you show no thought beyond the latest push and you're active enough to not be accused by lurking.
Varshoon's posts are mind-meltingly illogical, his push on me and Orc looks incredibly, incredibly fake (I've discussed this before) and his reasoning seems to be mostly based on silencing Orc, who is trying (poor guy) in directing Town. In fact, Varshoon has been trying to paying attention to certain details and ignoring others in his push for me, as evidenced in 978.
TD is much the same reasons I posted for Mac.
I don't like Don't/TMNT due to similar reasons to Mac and TD only much less posting. The words 'active lurking' come roaring to mind.
750, Var: WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ.
757, Metal Sonic: Well, ok, that's lazy too. Care to explain in any of those reasons of Town/Scum?
Scum list: Same, with a order of MS (Metal Sonic, not Mafiascum)
Slightly queasy about Andrius and Rach right now, but I've got plenty of scum reads. In fact, too many damn scum for this game.
Sven is not town, but null and I want to see what happens on subsequent days.
Town is Nacho and Orc and Sj honestly. Still reading.
amazing
he manages to not mention us at all
why are you staying away from us?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:13 pm
by GuyInFreezer
@TMT
1) elaborate on your 180 on TD.
2) elaborate on your scumread on Ghostlin
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:13 pm
by Varsoon
Out of my previous out of Ghostlin and Sajin, I'm much more confident that Ghostlin is the scum between the two.
Vote: Ghostlin
Just gonna keep my vote here.
I think that the case raised against me reeks of scum trying to bury town.
ISO work is also really throwing people up for lynch candidates.
Just feels scummy all-around.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:14 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
I will unleash high hell
To get this fucker varsoon lynched
Just look how inconsistent all his reads are
And oh my fucking lord this ghostlin push
Just
Nfkeood
GUYS
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:15 pm
by Varsoon
These are reads based off of the reactions to Sven's PR claim.
Sajin's later posts put him in somewhat scummier territory, and so my highest scum-suspects are between him and Ghostlin. I'm much more confident about the Ghost lynch, mind you, and the flip'll let me figure a good deal more about Sajin, who is a weaker read atm.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:17 pm
by Varsoon
In post 1058, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:I will unleash high hell
To get this fucker varsoon lynched
Just look how inconsistent all his reads are
And oh my fucking lord this ghostlin push
Just
Nfkeood
GUYS
I'mma go play some Anarchy Reigns, you unleash high hells and so on.
Or, you know, we could actually lynch some scum.
Orc, were you aware that people sometimes think new thoughts, or that, after re-evaluating things, they feel differently about things?
You're not being very postmodern, Orc.
Keep making noise and rallying town versus town.
I'll hunt scum.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:17 pm
by Varsoon
GIF, before I disappear for a bit, anything else you'd like to ask that I could answer quickly?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:19 pm
by GuyInFreezer
K.
@V: what exactly of orc's "bossy play" irked you?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:19 pm
by Mac
In post 1048, GuyInFreezer wrote:If I was confident at my English I wouldn't ask this but
Hey Mac. Can you read over my questions on Varsoon so far and see if Varsoon's answer makes sense?
Hmm. It's difficult. Your english is absolutely fine but varsoon seems to have it in his head that you are talking about his previous game with a 'litmus test' rather than sven's 'litmus test.' why he does I don't really know, especially going into describing his whole previous game like this is that game.
your questions are fine: varsoon's answers make sense if he genuinely believes you are talking about
own litmus test rather than sven's. why he would delibrately do that is strange and I don't think worth considering. I think you guys got your questions lost in translation a bit. and maybe you should start again.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:20 pm
by Varsoon
Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:21 pm
by Ghostlin
Mostly because nothing you posted made me react. (I think in a later post, I did do a BB comment). With 19 players I don't know if they're town or not, that'll happen.
You might not like that, but right now I have you sorted in the 'null' category. I have no great love or great hate for your posting.
P-edit: V, that's the most asinine scum tell I've seen since I've seen more than enough Town players do that as well.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:21 pm
by Varsoon
@Mac, See my 1052. I realized here that he meant what I got out of seeing Sven's claim as a litmus test.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:21 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
K.
TD: justifies votes fully later in the game
scumhunts
ghostlin: it feels like he doesn't give many reads, he mainly just fills his posts with random fluff to appear towny
post 1004's end
scumreads many people, never votes them without support
these are relatively weak, I said scummy, not scum. I take those to be different things.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:22 pm
by Mac
In post 1064, Varsoon wrote:
Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
this is orc as a player in general.
p-edit yeah I got that.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:22 pm
by Varsoon
@Ghostlin: Doesn't exonerate you, though.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:22 pm
by GuyInFreezer
@V: So you don't think town would do the same thing?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:23 pm
by orcinus_theoriginal
/And varsoon has played with me before so why would he use that to incriminate me/
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:23 pm
by Mac
In post 1068, Mac wrote: In post 1064, Varsoon wrote:
Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
this is orc as a player in general.
p-edit yeah I got that.
actually scratch that, this is orc as town.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:24 pm
by BeautyAndTheBeast
In post 1014, Cabd wrote: In post 1012, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: In post 905, ² wrote: In post 856, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:and buldey left out a huge response to the middle of his catch up yesterday, things I would think that he would respond to
I did leave it out, and I was going to respond to it,
but f said she already pressured you on gchat
so I figured I'd leave it be. I already pointed out what stood out to me.
- b
wat
Ummm. Somebody refresh me on this, but is scum allowed to chat outside the mod-given areas? If so, hello scumslip.
I had to reread it I think buldey is talking about him talking to fery whom he is in a hydra with
I thought he was trying to say that I was talking to fery in gchat. we don't usually talk during games and especially when we are at this point
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:24 pm
by Varsoon
In post 1068, Mac wrote: In post 1064, Varsoon wrote:
Stuff like the post above and when he makes posts like "Hey, guy who just entered thread, vote X with me."
Seemed like really confident scum playing town.
this is orc as a player in general.
p-edit yeah I got that.
I'm aware, was in another game with him and he was just as frustrating. I don't like basing my town-tells and scum-tells off of meta-experience, so I pushed Orc's buttons and he's pretty town for me in this game.
@GIF: I'm unsure if town would do that. S'why I had to mess with Orc in the ways I did. Like I said, he's confirmed himself to me as town by now.