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In post 1025, No Brains Here wrote:I was saying that OMGL is scum for not considering that Jon Doe might have information NOT ABOUT THE SCUM KILL, BUT ABOUT THE VIG'S KILL. He just wanted to frame Jon Doe. That is not a townie mindset.

I echo matt's sentiment more than I agree with the actual point -- I could see someone initially making the argument OGML made, and then going back and thinking about it more and realizing the argument is not sound.

That 'going back and thinking about it more' thing didn't happen and it turned into a 'la la you scumslipped mantra'.

VOTE: ogml

@jon -- I see that GIF did in fact say you said he said. It's a dumb thing for him to have said but whatever. I don't agree with your case in GIF at all -- I think that the page he was on concerning the SK wagon is a really genuine page to have been on at that time of day, and I just think you're applying a blanket to a situation that really just doesn't work here.

@mollie -- I looked at sangres slot; 353 and 376 rub me wrong, especially considering that the unexplained SK vote preceded it by a lot, and just that it seems to kinda skirt around the more important part of voting for scum and lynching them and shit. I don't know how to explain the point I'm trying to make here very well.

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@amrun - basically jon talked about trust fund's death implying that it was the scum kill; jon later justified this with flavor hints (which is wrong in this case, but plausible)
ogml came back and said jon was scum for slipping cause the only way he'd know trust fund was the scum kill is if his team had done it. DGB pointed out that the hole here is that jon could be a vig who shot majiffy but OGML has been adamant at pushing this as a scumslip.

But people are ignoring that Dan is probably right and it's Majiffy who was likely killed by scum -- I just think jon looked for flavor hints where there weren't any.

Well, fuck. I'm conflicted, because in general, I find that pretty fucking scummy (slipping you have kill information).

In fact, I recently lynched someone for that as a slip. I was scum, but it was greater idea so I totally thought he was the werewolf.

...he flipped town.

In this case, though, Majiffy was fairly obviously the scum kill -- I think I was the first one to say that, though. And we obviously have a vig in this game.

Chance is high enough here that I'll

VOTE: OGML

Pending a read through for myself.

Oh wait, they said trust fund was a scum kill?

That makes no fucking sense.

Lol sorry DGB

VOTE: jon doe


I'll read for myself when I can and make a final decision after seeing context.

In post 1052, Amrun wrote:Oh wait, they said trust fund was a scum kill?

That makes no fucking sense.

Lol sorry DGB

VOTE: jon doe

I feel like this is an argument for jon doe being town

Why?

cause if he thought trust fund was the kill (and said he did cause of flavor)

that would imply he didn't know that he was wrong.

In post 1045, No Brains Here wrote:it is depressing you are not answering my questions matt

I missed it, please quote

Yeah but if trust fund really was the scum kill, Jon Doe is super scum.

However future kills will probably sort that out.

Thanks for talking this out with me, bork. Nice chatsies.

VOTE: ogml

In post 1052, Amrun wrote:Oh wait, they said trust fund was a scum kill?

That makes no fucking sense.

Lol sorry DGB

VOTE: jon doe


I'll read for myself when I can and make a final decision after seeing context.

He said that he was basing this on flavor.

Amrun are you scum? If you are, you've improved your scum game - just not enough. REV IT UP GIRL

In post 1054, Amrun wrote:Why?

I'll let my other head handle this because it came from her. I will sum it up though. Flavor said smothered with pillow. She said zombies don't use pillows. Legit train of thought.

@bork I can accept that. I would like to keep it for later though if GiF gets wonky.

VOTE: OGML

In post 1055, borkjerfkin wrote:cause if he thought trust fund was the kill (and said he did cause of flavor)

that would imply he didn't know that he was wrong.

She. He wouldn't use flavor on MS and is why he waited to read your awesome flavor until after each day had passed.

In post 1058, No Brains Here wrote:

In post 1052, Amrun wrote:Oh wait, they said trust fund was a scum kill?

That makes no fucking sense.

Lol sorry DGB

VOTE: jon doe


I'll read for myself when I can and make a final decision after seeing context.

He said that he was basing this on flavor.

Amrun are you scum? If you are, you've improved your scum game - just not enough. REV IT UP GIRL

Come on now, I was only magically good at scum as a newbie! And then I got better at the game and lost the ability to be scum (???)

I haven't read it yet, cut me a break.

Yea sry DGB but Amrun is towny enough this game that I don't think there's even a point of double checking

Would you believe me if I said my first two real games in ms were scum games and got me nominated for a scummy?

Crazy, but true! I rocked that shit.

Where did that go and how do I get it back?

In post 1062, MattP wrote:Yea sry DGB but Amrun is towny enough this game that I don't think there's even a point of double checking

Hush don't paint a target on her back.

I just skipped about 15 pages - what the hell?

On this page I think Bork looks like town and I even sort of like his issue with this OGL wagon.
I don't think I even saw an OGL post in the first 20 pages.



I ISOed about half of OGML and this is what I am feeling.
What did I miss - quick bullet points?

Gawds, I hate all your names and the confusions.
Let me collect myself a moment.

In post 1065, Thor665 wrote:I just skipped about 15 pages - what the hell?

On this page I think Bork looks like town and I even sort of like his issue with this OGL wagon.
I don't think I even saw an OGL post in the first 20 pages.

Vote: John Doe

I ISOed about half of OGML and this is what I am feeling.
What did I miss - quick bullet points?

Hahahaha Thor you're scum too.

Here let's pretend I don't know you're OGML's buddy:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p5191754

I think thir just hasn't read yet. I don't have a read on him though.

Okay, so John Doe went - blargh, 'this' was the mafia kill because, pillow, also Vigs shoot...I won't mention SKs or explain why I think Majiffy would be a Vig shot.
OGML pointed this out as derptastic.
People decided to run a train on both of them, currently on OGML because...John Doe in advancing the derp case suggested lack of awareness of reality to the point he's less likely scum.

It's like taking a hit of acid in here.
Let's fire up a third wagon for lulz - I think Bork is town, I actually would lynch Johnny, but, hey, let's give Bork a pass for now, I think the OGML wagon is pretty terrible as it looks like, basically, he's being run up for pointing out something that seems pretty fething reasonable to point out.

I'mma go find a vote count and vote a random name with some votes already on it.

@No Brains - you think your big reveal for a scum case is 'calling out the Vig'
Serious?
Because *that's* what scum are always likely to do.
Hint: even if you're 100% right, there are better solutions than lynching the person you think is calling out the Vig.
Derp.

Finding vote count now - presuming another few posts don't amuse and distract me.

What an ungodly boring set of vote counts.



@Matt - get back on this thing, we'll make it one of the biggest wagons of the day if you do.

Thor -- who is scum?

In post 1069, Thor665 wrote:I think the OGML wagon is pretty terrible as it looks like, basically, he's being run up for pointing out something that seems pretty fething reasonable to point out.

No Sir. What is not reasonable is to try to whip up a wagon on the easy-lynch Jon Doe without considering at least two reasons he might be town. (1) JonDoe's comments were based on flavor and (2) Jon Doe's comments were a strong hint of VIG.

So of course OGML wants to go after the possible-vig-easy-lynch and make up BS cases that are scummy because they do not bother considering alternative theories.

In post 1072, Amrun wrote:Thor -- who is scum?

Thor.