I agree with the Mastin scum read. I'm null on Rach and the rest I'm in disagreement, Even though I'm null-leaning town on SoS. I was townreading TF and this hasn't gone away because there was no reason for scum-TF to say my "reaching out tell in regards to Fery" is a null tell>
computer do not do this right now> let me enter the damn post< ty
If he's town, I will eventually get there. I am not insta-townreading him this game. In fact, I haven't been able to insta-read him in a few recent games, as Nacho is well aware.
I'll have to trust you before I trust your gut. It's a multistep process, and it's probably faster to just do what I can to sort Andy for myself. When he posts again.
how much do you trust nacho
on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being no 10 being yes[/quote]
When I think he's town, I sometimes weigh his reads more heavily than my own, but it's contextual and it's player dependent. If he's town in this game, I'll probably weigh his opinion of you over my own due to the huge difference in experiential meta.
Right now, my trust level is not high and it's in part because we are disagreeing on a couple of players that I would expect to agree with town-Nacho about.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:05 pm
by Sound of Silence
Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:05 pm
by Andrius
nhamm is mala.
copypasta'd the list and made edits
clearly there were clerical errors
also you know who i was talking about so win:win
Maybe you are better at reading Nacho than I am so I will give you that one.
damn straight
BRO?
read my posts
mala?
probscum at this point
can definitely see people's case on her and id vote her because WOTC
will do my own metaread into nhamm just to appease myself
i want mala to be town
because she sang grenade for me
but
nacho hold me all the women are scum
These are pretty safe and noncontroversial. I'd respect you more if you put them in one pile or the other.
uh
they ARE in a category
they're in MAYBESCUM
aka
not town
not entirely sold as scum
but
scum
so
how is that not claer for you
if you want
ill rename the fucking category LEANINGSCUM if that will appease you
will that fucking work for you?
These are mostly terrible.
and i give zero fucks as to what you think at this point
now stop talking so i can post another wall
FUCKING PREDITS
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:05 pm
by Andrius
In post 1056, Sound of Silence wrote:Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).
tell gif to stop wasting my fucking time
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:06 pm
by Andrius
If he's town, I will eventually get there. I am not insta-townreading him this game. In fact, I haven't been able to insta-read him in a few recent games, as Nacho is well aware.
he's town
move along
When I think he's town, I sometimes weigh his reads more heavily than my own, but it's contextual and it's player dependent. If he's town in this game, I'll probably weigh his opinion of you over my own due to the huge difference in experiential meta.
Right now, my trust level is not high and it's in part because we are disagreeing on a couple of players that I would expect to agree with town-Nacho about
this is not a number 1-10
insert another quarter
and try again
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:07 pm
by Andrius
mollie wrote:but seriously
you call the entire wall fluff.
I'll play ball with you.
BUT IMMA FINISH FIRST
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:08 pm
by Andrius
FLUFF
penii comment
mollie + andy hydra name comment
legolas gif
MAYBEFLUFF
first game with X and Y comment
congratulations
my post is largely NOT FLUFF
try reading the game again
all the words in all the posts
and get back to me
In post 1056, Sound of Silence wrote:Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).
tell gif to stop wasting my fucking time
He's reading the thread.
I'd kinda like to figure out a way to interact productively with you if you're town. The derision doesn't do much for me.
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:09 pm
by Andrius
but seriously
you call the entire wall fluff.
I'll play ball with you.
In post 1056, Sound of Silence wrote:Andy, GiF's Achievement list was for his own amusement and he didn't intend to post it (at least not at that point in the game). He had it in drafts and accidentally posted it instead of our reads list. He noted that at the top of the next post (the reads list he actually intended to post originally).
tell gif to stop wasting my fucking time
He's reading the thread.
I'd kinda like to figure out a way to interact productively with you if you're town. The derision doesn't do much for me.
im on RAGEAHOL at the moment so let me calm down
and we can chat later
If he's town, I will eventually get there. I am not insta-townreading him this game. In fact, I haven't been able to insta-read him in a few recent games, as Nacho is well aware.
he's town
move along
When I think he's town, I sometimes weigh his reads more heavily than my own, but it's contextual and it's player dependent. If he's town in this game, I'll probably weigh his opinion of you over my own due to the huge difference in experiential meta.
Right now, my trust level is not high and it's in part because we are disagreeing on a couple of players that I would expect to agree with town-Nacho about
this is not a number 1-10
insert another quarter
and try again
No it's not a number. It's something more meaningful. It's my thought process.
probscum at this point
can definitely see people's case on her and id vote her because WOTC
will do my own metaread into nhamm just to appease myself
i want mala to be town
because she sang grenade for me
but
nacho hold me all the women are scum
... If you think I'm probs-scum why did you put me in your town read lists?..
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:22 pm
by Andrius
I have no clue
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:23 pm
by Andrius
lol you and nhamm are the same slot
and I listed you both
In post 1036, Aj The Epic wrote:Hey Thezmon (or Nacho, since you're here), please tell me you're seeing Mala as scum. It almost feels like a bus at this point, she's so tunnel-centric on FTL. I'd go so far as call it basic scum tactic 101, man. We see this all the time, so if you want to help me lynch this, that'd be great.
It's progressing. But my read on her is one of my most unstable. I have very, very little to go on in the form of the read, and after my wk'ing spout I gotta take a step back and reevaluate.
I like some of her reads, though.
In post 1043, Andrius wrote:How much do you want notscience dead this very minute?
I'm pretty content with him being in the game. He's not detailed, but he's conftown and DOES do stuff for the town and is definitely trying to help. It took a bit of effort to get him there, but I noticed it when I was talking with him about his reaction fish.
- I've already talked about this, but her entering the thread looks towny.
zMuffin
- Feels authentic, although I'm still waiting on his new reads.
thezmon
- Arguing against him feels like arguing with a thoughtful townie, although I disagree with some of his reads
BROseiden
- I like his notes regarding ghostlin, a player most people seem to have overlooked. His liar tell thing seems dumb, but it also seems town.
I love lists.
remind me again why mala's entrance was town? I thought it was very bad and was starting to scum read her for it but she is looking better and majiffy getting under skin feels like it is coming more from frustrated townie than a scummy act.
so muffin looks authentic and that is why you have him as town? can you expand on that?
thez read is decent
bro read looks vaguely like grooming an unconfident townie.
Null
:
Rach
- She's right up there with zMuffin as far as time since we last heard from her, and her play before didn't really give me much of an opinion on her.
Skull
- Nothing to see here
Nacho
- Not contributing much, but nacho never contributes much. Until something serious that he is forced to react to, I doubt I'll get much of a read here.
Andrius
- His scumread on me feels forced, but his read of the game feels towny. Dunno, really.
Ghostlin
-Yet to see very much from him. His vote on Mala is dumb, but it doesn't really pop out is scum to me. I'd like some reads from him.
TD
- His emotions seem legitimate, but I'm not sure I'm a fan of how quiet he's been lately.
Venmar
- Who knows? Not me.
Those other 2 hydras
- Too hard to read for anything real D1, methinks.
Everyone else I forgot.
if nicky flips scum then andy is most assuredly is his partner. scum always always always put at least 1 partner dead in the middle and hey! I was scum reading andy anyways so
the nacho never contributes much is a bunch of crap and untrue and there should more peeps than just me who will point this out.
nothing to say about venny's claim or play? lol hedge.
Scum-leaning:-
B&B
- The harass of Mala doesn't look towny. That said, the hydra dissonance is strong with this one, and i'm having a hard time even figuring out what they believe. Also, sign your posts, seriously, it's not hard. Can yall like, talk to eachother and agree on reads or something?
FTL
- Have these 2 ever played in a hydra before? Seriously, you guys are harder to figure out then B&B, and not in a good way. MS is barely even legible, and all his question seem completely random and pointless. I see a tiny bit of scummieness poking through from Varsoon in posts like this: VOTE: FTL
I don't get the feeling they are putting any effort at all into working together, making it hard to get a read. Hopefully they'll eventually feel enough preassure to do it, and then I can be more definitive in my read.
Mastin
- Is dumb and doesn't make much sense. His read on me also looks pretty forced, but since he doesn't really bother to back it up, it's hard to tell. It worries me that he doesn't really do any analysis on the TD wagon, which seems like something someone who considers themself to be as analytical as Mastin seems to think he is would do.
Mac
- Reasons are in my iso. Scum.
reads are bad bad bad, and if I had a go at it I would say that he is either bussing ftl (it is around that time) and that (sadly) mastin might be scum (again he puts a scummate in the middle). mastin is also a very good player and 1 of the biggest mistakes is that they will claim a skill beyond their level of experience and scumhunting mastin falls into that category (if mastin is indeed scum). while nicky is being incredibly elegant about it reads like a pile of weaksauce.
wrt the scumread on our slot, none of those are scumtells. majiffy pushes people for reactions that is just how he is. he goes overboard cos he does not always pick up on social cues of when he should stop. I already explained we give independent reads on d1 and then fight about them in the night round and their are players here who are familiar enough with us to know that. I have reigned him in a bit and I now have him on a tight leash which is pretty much what I had to do in xeno1. his d1 reads sucked during that game but he was really hitting it on d2, majiffy is the type of player who does much better with flips and info to work with.
I wanna see a nicky flip cos I am really feeling it that he is scum in this game and I think it will provide a whole lot of info. his case on mac looks like scum leaping all over an inconsistency when town can sometimes be inconsistent with their thoughts too. his vote on ftl looks like he is either bussing or being opportunistic.
VOTE: nicky
gonna type up a full list of my reads in a minute.
mollie, I feel like your nick case is more succinctly summed up as "I disagree with his reads" and not "he has done scummy things x, y, and z." I think my Rach case is better, and you also think she's scummy--can we do Rach today please? I think her flip will be just as informative as nick's would be, with the added bonus that she's actually been doing scummy things all game, while nick's content and engagement with the thread has him in my townpile.
it isn't just that I disagree with his reads it is his hyper-active aggressive push reminds more of his scum meta than his town. this is our first forum game together but we have played a good bit on skype. he is 1 of my favourite people to play with. his whole defense "your grasping at straws" and saying I was drinking liquor when I voted him is more of the arrogant scummy brush off than his usual thoughtful town play. having said that, his reaction to mastin was reactionary, instantaneous and genuine so I may change my mind about him.
not feeling the rach lynch, I am probably going to push for nacho/andy/mastin but may compromise.