Big Brother: HoH Mafia (We have a winner at last)

[Voidedmafia]

Votecount 3.05:

Titus - Bulbazak
Imperium - Titus, RachMarie
BBmolla - Desp

Not Voting - BBmolla, Minions, Toogeloo, f-16, Toasty, keyblade, Imperium

With 11 alive it takes 6 to elect an HoH. Currently Imperium will be nominated as the next HoH, as they have the most votes.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-10-02 12:06:45) or by 11:05 AM on October 2nd, 2013.

Keybladewielder is always V/LA Wednesday through Saturday.

[Minions]

How many scum players are in a setup of this size? I keep seeing references to three scum votes in the latest eviction, but if ice guy couldn't vote that leaves three more scum if that's correct.

5 scum team? That seems a bit high. And what is desperado is also scum, they would have only had a few votes loose anyway.

So actually it would be toog OR desp, they can't both be scum.


Bbmolla, I explained that I find rachmaries approach to supposed scum hunting to be scummy in itself. She relies heavily on meta reads to make decisions which not only is never as accurate as people believe but is open to corruption.
Her inability to know who is in the minions team, regardless if she knows any of us or not, means we are insta scum, and that is an attempt to cover not actually reading our play.

Btw, if needed we have a prove able and useful value to the game, if you want us to prove it on the next vote just let us know.

[Minions]

~ Doug

[Imperium]

How much of this game have you read Doug head of minions?

I might just twitch myself into oblivion.

[Desperado]

What I'm saying is scum players actually seem to get meaner than normal, and he's doing so right now.

hey

hey you

I called you out on lying about our meta just now. Why didn't you respond?

How many scum players are in a setup of this size? I keep seeing references to three scum votes in the latest eviction, but if ice guy couldn't vote that leaves three more scum if that's correct.

5 scum team? That seems a bit high. And what is desperado is also scum, they would have only had a few votes loose anyway.

So actually it would be toog OR desp, they can't both be scum.


Bbmolla, I explained that I find rachmaries approach to supposed scum hunting to be scummy in itself. She relies heavily on meta reads to make decisions which not only is never as accurate as people believe but is open to corruption.
Her inability to know who is in the minions team, regardless if she knows any of us or not, means we are insta scum, and that is an attempt to cover not actually reading our play.

Btw, if needed we have a prove able and useful value to the game, if you want us to prove it on the next vote just let us know.

Can you guys go away please you're making it harder to get Rach to die.

[Desperado]

What I'm saying is scum players actually seem to get meaner than normal, and he's doing so right now.

hey

hey you

I called you out on lying about our meta just now. Why didn't you respond?

How many scum players are in a setup of this size? I keep seeing references to three scum votes in the latest eviction, but if ice guy couldn't vote that leaves three more scum if that's correct.

5 scum team? That seems a bit high. And what is desperado is also scum, they would have only had a few votes loose anyway.

So actually it would be toog OR desp, they can't both be scum.


Bbmolla, I explained that I find rachmaries approach to supposed scum hunting to be scummy in itself. She relies heavily on meta reads to make decisions which not only is never as accurate as people believe but is open to corruption.
Her inability to know who is in the minions team, regardless if she knows any of us or not, means we are insta scum, and that is an attempt to cover not actually reading our play.

Btw, if needed we have a prove able and useful value to the game, if you want us to prove it on the next vote just let us know.

Can you guys go away please you're making it harder to get Rach to die.

[Voidedmafia]

Toogeloo has been prodded (expired on 2013-09-25 11:42:09).

[Bulbazak]

How many scum players are in a setup of this size? I keep seeing references to three scum votes in the latest eviction, but if ice guy couldn't vote that leaves three more scum if that's correct.

5 scum team? That seems a bit high. And what is desperado is also scum, they would have only had a few votes loose anyway.

So actually it would be toog OR desp, they can't both be scum.

Can we please lynch this? They're trying the same forgetfulness gambit twice in the same game!

Btw, if needed we have a prove able and useful value to the game, if you want us to prove it on the next vote just let us know.

Taste that sweet scum desperate need for survival.

[Generic]

Notice bulba desperate to get us killed before we can prove ourselves.

With two mafia dead, what are you scared of in what we can prove?

Before the hammer vote drops on a HoH we can reveal what we can do to help, and that will be proves me by the HoH the next day.

What have you got to lose? If we are lying wont it be a bit obvious?

~ Jerry

[Minions]

Oops :p

Notice bulba desperate to get us killed before we can prove ourselves.

With two mafia dead, what are you scared of in what we can prove?

Before the hammer vote drops on a HoH we can reveal what we can do to help, and that will be proves me by the HoH the next day.

What have you got to lose? If we are lying wont it be a bit obvious?

~ Jerry

[Keybladewielder]

Well now we know half of that hydra.

[Bulbazak]

Oops :p

Notice bulba desperate to get us killed before we can prove ourselves.

With two mafia dead, what are you scared of in what we can prove?

Before the hammer vote drops on a HoH we can reveal what we can do to help, and that will be proves me by the HoH the next day.

What have you got to lose? If we are lying wont it be a bit obvious?

~ Jerry

Prove yourselves? Prove yourselves with what? You're being deliberately vague, in a setup where such vagueness doesn't make sense. You're saying, "Leave me alive, and I'll use an ability during the night that can help town." Sounds familiar... Oh wait, now I remember.

[Minions]

Role fishing when I said we can reveal it BEFORE the HoH, and therefore before the night phase, is decided?

Whoever is voted in please pur bulba up for nomination.

Oh, and key, half the hydra team? Not even close to half

~ jerry

[Bulbazak]

Not rolefishing. I think you're stalling. I fell for such a tactic in Achievement Unlocked. I'm not falling for it again.

[Minions]

Explain where the stalling is.

Have I asked to be HoH? We need anybody other than us to be HoH in fact.

Have we said we wouldn't reveal the ability until after night has started? Nope, in fact we insist on sharing before then.

The reason I held it back was to see who wod panic. And you were head of the queue there bulba.

[Toogeloo]

Titus - Bulbazak
Imperium - Titus, RachMarie
BBmolla - Desp

Let's decide on one of these three people... and hell, even though I said it wouldn't be possible yesterday, I renig it now... I'd even be fine with Bulba. But forsuperserious... can we pick one person and just get on with the day please?

I have no opinion on the whole multiple times HoH thing and would be perfectly fine with Imperium again. The only thing I want to make sure we do is speed hammer the HoH since we still don't know if they have to be at L-1 for "bad" things to happen. Minions stating an HoH needs to be at L-1 for him to do something should turn a few heads and take notice I would think.

[Bulbazak]

Explain where the stalling is.

Have I asked to be HoH? We need anybody other than us to be HoH in fact.

Have we said we wouldn't reveal the ability until after night has started? Nope, in fact we insist on sharing before then.

The reason I held it back was to see who wod panic. And you were head of the queue there bulba.

People started suspecting and pressuring you, and you put up your hands and said, "Hey, I have a cool ability. If you don't nominate us tonight, I'll show you what it does. But you have to give me your word that you won't lynch us, and trust us to deliver. *wink wink*". It reminds me of what Morph the Cat did. They promised a cool ability if we wouldn't lynch them, and they later endgamed the town. I'm not falling for it again.

[Minions]

Someone died day 1, would you have preferred we offered ourselves up as targets with such information without the necessity to do so?

So pro town of you bulba.

[Bulbazak]

Someone died day 1, would you have preferred we offered ourselves up as targets with such information without the necessity to do so?

What?

[Toogeloo]

Are you taking credit for the JfRD kill Minions? Cuz that would be kinda weird considering you wanted him to be HoH and all.

[Minions]

No, where the hell did you get that from what I said?

Some died day 1. Bulba thinks the best play for us would have been to announce much earlier in the game a town benefiting ability, even though someone can kill during the day.

It's only now whereby it (selfishly admittedly) clears us to make the narrowing down of scum options that I mention it at all.

[Minions]

I should just say me instead of us since I'm the only active mber of this hydra.

If more than just scum bulba requests I announce what I can do I will say.

Bulba showing his hand means one of desp/toog or rachmarie isn't scum unless there really is five mafia (does that seem fair for balance?)

[Bulbazak]

Some died day 1. Bulba thinks the best play for us would have been to announce much earlier in the game a town benefiting ability, even though someone can kill during the day.

No, I just think you are full of crap and are trying to ward off a nomination.

[Desperado]

I should just say me instead of us since I'm the only active mber of this hydra.

If more than just scum bulba requests I announce what I can do I will say.

Bulba showing his hand means one of desp/toog or rachmarie isn't scum unless there really is five mafia (does that seem fair for balance?)

THERE ARE ONLY 4 SCUM IT'S IN THE FUCKING RULES HOLY SHIT

[Imperium]

Nacho's probably going to kill me for not keeping up here this week. I've been struggling to keep up in most games due to being busy and a game in LyLo, but that ended last night, so I have more time now. I will try to get caught up here tonight, but I'm rethinking my scum read on Falcon and need to talk to Nacho about minions and whatever cryptic power they have because we were really confident minions were scum.

Though if they ask one more time if it's possible that there are five scum, I will go insane. As far as I'm concerned that sounds like a fake dumb tell, and at this point it's ridiculous.

If Minions and falcon aren't scum then we need to reset ourselves somewhere.