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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:25 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
In post 949, Goat on a Raft wrote:
In post 271, ooba wrote:elleheathen is town
This seemed like a flat-out unhelpful position for scum to take at the time. Also, #338 seems to show some thinking. This head is a little taken with his Shadoweh scumread, too.
i actually think its a pretty good position to take as scum. passively attempting to stymie a lynch on "bad town" is like scumplay 101.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:27 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
In post 949, Goat on a Raft wrote:
In post 271, ooba wrote:elleheathen is town
This seemed like a flat-out unhelpful position for scum to take at the time. Also, #338 seems to show some thinking. This head is a little taken with his Shadoweh scumread, too.
i think no matter what goat posts anymore im gonna be reading it as scum, no matter how objectively solid it is. its 1 of those reads i dont want to have but its gonna fester like fuck and color my judgments on him for a long time 2 come.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:28 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
whyd it quote that a second time wth why is quoting so broken god damn

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:34 pm
by Thor665
In post 1049, Cephrir wrote:
@Chephir - you keep harping on the cherry pick and now bring up that I did the worst ones first...um...was my response to the 2nd set you demanded that hard? Both you (and her) even admitted the points I hadn't addressed were weak and silly, so...where are you coming from suggesting I avoided the tough ones? Can you support that claim?
Yes, after I bothered you about it. I only keep bringing it up because people keep poking me about it.
I don't think that answers the question I asked.
I asked for support that what I "dodged" was the "hard stuff" because my first reply only addressed her "bad points".
I don't think that's a statement that can be remotely backed up considering what both you and her said about the "hard stuff" after I did address it.
Can you support the claim?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:35 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
In post 1024, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1023, Garruk Relentless wrote:
In post 1021, Zdenek wrote:
In post 897, Zdenek wrote:Kanye,
In post 881, Zdenek wrote:
You should explain this.
I swear to God Kanye. This shouldn't be so difficult.
Kanye only explains things when he feels its necessary. He never seems to explain when asked.

-SSK
Well, laa dee daa. He should answer because to me it looks like he's selectively scum hunting.
what does this mean

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:49 pm
by Thor665
He wants you to explain why you didn't like his attack on me, but were okay with Benmage's attack on me.
As in: why is one objectionable, and the other is not.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:50 pm
by PrideandJoy
prodded. Chesskid been slacking it seems.

Still on Vacation; Thursday I'll be able to be more active.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:50 pm
by Thor665
Oh, there's also now a built up wall of 'Kanye don't explain jack!' built in, hence the quote nesting.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:10 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
In post 1055, Thor665 wrote:He wants you to explain why you didn't like his attack on me, but were okay with Benmage's attack on me.
As in: why is one objectionable, and the other is not.
hi hey guy i dont think that post was directed @ u

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:11 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
if i wanted thor 2 answer the question directed @ zed i would have prefaced it w. "hjey thor,"

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:40 pm
by Thor665
If I wanted to listen to you "catch" him over something I was able to figure out in two seconds by clicking the link in his question to learn, I'd feel bad.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:41 pm
by Thor665
I mean, even by what he's saying he clearly understands his original point - so at that stage what were you going to catch him on?
Making him explain what selective scumhunting means or something?

Just answer the question that he clearly understands and let's move on.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:12 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
vote thor

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:40 pm
by Thor665
That makes even less sense since the only way I'm scum is if I'm scum defending scumbuddy Zdenek, and your concept of Zdenek scum is that he's scum for attacking me for my claim in a scummy way.

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:46 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
you sure jammed a bunch of assumptions into 1 sentence!

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:52 pm
by StupendousMan
In post 1063, Thor665 wrote:That makes even less sense since the only way I'm scum is if I'm scum defending scumbuddy Zdenek, and your concept of Zdenek scum is that he's scum for attacking me for my claim in a scummy way.
So the only way for you to be scum is defending Zdenek.... Why couldn't you be scum for just saying something scummy?

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:56 pm
by Thor665
In post 1064, kanyeknowsbest wrote:you sure jammed a bunch of assumptions into 1 sentence!
If you don't want assumptions made about your votes then explain them.
Otherwise I'm going to be over here conjecturing ;)

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:57 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
thjats okay i dont mind

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:01 am
by macmollie
In post 1048, Thor665 wrote:@Mollie - he did replace out for that, and I actually don't even think it was that rude on my part. Maybe I'm a total jerk and can't tell, but I personally think I hit too close to home and that's why he reacted so strongly. Draw your own conclusions. It's still pretty clear that a scumhunting style that can't be explained lacks logic - that's pretty much the definition of a method that can't be explained.
I don't think you were a jerk but no one likes to be dismissed but you are scum so mebbe he doesn't understand that is what you are supposed to do. also I cannot logically explain how my microwave works it doesn't mean that it doesn't work. :wink:
You're wrong about Alfred also - look at his defense and reasoning to clear Benmage. That's pretty amazing scum play if he's scum. (well, I guess the could be buddies...but then it's really ballsy scumplay, so same reasoning to call him townish)
I don't even understand what you are saying here.
In post 1062, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
vote thor
you have my sword.

VOTE: thor

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:03 am
by Thor665
In post 1065, StupendousMan wrote:
In post 1063, Thor665 wrote:That makes even less sense since the only way I'm scum is if I'm scum defending scumbuddy Zdenek, and your concept of Zdenek scum is that he's scum for attacking me for my claim in a scummy way.
So the only way for you to be scum is defending Zdenek.... Why couldn't you be scum for just saying something scummy?
:neutral:
Look at his past read of me, then his exchange here, and then his vote, and feel free to tell me the oddly scummy thing I did.
Sure, it might have happened like that - but it doesn't look that way, so I'm going with the more likely explanation until he tells me otherwise.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:05 am
by Thor665
In post 1068, macmollie wrote:I don't think you were a jerk but no one likes to be dismissed but you are scum so mebbe he doesn't understand that is what you are supposed to do. also I cannot logically explain how my microwave works it doesn't mean that it doesn't work. :wink:
If you built the microwave this would matter. Let me know if you did.
A microwave can be explained logically.
In post 1068, macmollie wrote:I don't even understand what you are saying here.
His defense of Benmage looks like town.
Make sense?
I'm not sure what's confusing you.

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:06 am
by Thor665

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:16 am
by macmollie
In post 1070, Thor665 wrote:If you built the microwave this would matter. Let me know if you did.
A microwave can be explained logically.
I always find it weird when people get so strung out about logic in a game that involves lies, deceit and treachery.
His defense of Benmage looks like town.
Make sense?
I'm not sure what's confusing you.
yabbut your premise is based on that alfred is not that good of a scum player or he and benny are scummates?

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:28 am
by macmollie

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:50 am
by Thor665
@Mollie

1. Um...because logic helps try to force the scum to work harder to deceive because they're forced to present a logical model for what they're pretending to do as town? I think that's a big part of it. Also, i wasn't aware that just because someone is lying it precludes the ability for logic to find them out, someone needs to tell Sherlock Holmes this.

2. Yes. All scum and town tells accept certain preconceptions in their application, it's how they work. Do you think he's good enough as scum to work up that clearing case on benmage for town points and *also* succumb to whatever scumtell he committed for you to catch him?

3. Rainbows, how do those work?