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In post 1018, macmollie wrote:kaze I think muffina is town cos of teh trolling

I'm inclined to agree. At least for now.

In post 1023, Metal Sonic wrote:ok im wrong there is no reason to do that as scum unless you are getting lynched

there is no wagon on you

therefore it is not scummy

but it is rly trol!!!!!

I don't like the sound of this. Not in a "this is scummy" way but a "I might be voting a derpcake" way.

Ugh. I need to read up on you.

In post 1025, Cabd wrote:Ffery, Nacho, Kaze, et. al..... fuzzylogic pact. Serious offer. Very heavily considering it right now.

I'll bring the bean dip?

In post 1049, Angry Frat BROs wrote:Can we lynch someone already.

Everyone list your top 4 and we wagon the highest count person?

Cool, you town.

I'm refreshing every 15 mins but there's only 6 new posts in 9 hours o__o

I don't particularly think Muffins IC claim is scummy though? It's not something I think a scum player would do at all, people voting Muffin fort it need to rethink their position or continue being opportunistic.

In post 1049, Angry Frat BROs wrote:Everyone list your top 4 and we wagon the highest count person?

Seeing how you can't decide on your own wagon, just fucking sheep me and lynch MS.

But to entertain you:
1) Metal Sonic
2) Pieguyn
(That's really what my only scumreads are right now, but Cephrir is starting to lean scum, so he can be a technical #3.)

In post 1050, Kazekirimaru wrote:but a "I might be voting a derpcake" way.

Yeah but the MS I know is not much a derp cake to begin with.

I guess I might as well just make this a readslist, even though they are the worst.

Town:
Skull- If you disagree with this just go away.
Pie- If you want to pretend the massive ATE didn't happen, I would still put this here. I never actually reread for tone or whatever people were seeing but I intuitively find those people to be full of shit.
Cabd- This is about as town a read as Cabd is going to get from me like ever. Maybe I should be worried that he isn't doing things I don't understand like he usually does, but he's made a lot of sense to me this game. I like that he isn't trying too hard.
Brian- I can't actually explain this off the top of my head, but I definitely recall feeling this way after some of his posts.
Kaze- Has weird tone/wording sometimes, but what he is actually saying seems pretty town if I don't think too hard about the ways he says it.

Lean town:
Sangres- Nacho has entered pretty well, but I'm not ready to give this slot a free pass.
Varsoon- Gut, I guess.
Muffin- Demeanor reminds me of FEA, even though I'd find him odd in a void.
SSK- Is actually sort of trying.

???:
Venmar- has rubbed me the wrong way at times (and I think you were the one who threatened me with a mutual scumread which I hated?) but nonetheless his neighbors are scummier
Actiondan- almost certainly never leaving this category, and probably never going to try
Metal Sonic- not radiating the town Metal Sonic I have seen and expected to see. Moves down substantially if AFB is town, I don't believe the neighbors are all town
Kagami- Started out okay, got weird. Might be something to what people have described as her(?) town meta not being present.
Aegor- I'm pretty sure I have touched on when I felt he was weird and possibly WKing me/trying to create a TvT in places. Hate the left field Kaze vote. On the other hand, did some things I thought were town early on.

Scummy:
Mollie- I have never seen you be scum but this doesn't seem in character. Feel like I should not be the only one worried about this, but apparently I am. Weird free pass from mastin who is probably scum.
AFB- I am trying to get around my inherent bias because of them tunneling me but it's not working. Everyone else seems to think they are obvtown but I don't get it. Honestly sounds a lot like Scumrir, and I'm sort of done with the 'Scumrir-esque players are town' mindset I used to have because it keeps being wrong.
Flandre- Just all around sucks every single post. Has not done anything town whatsoever.
Orc- I think we're letting him skate by entirely too much because people are seeing too much in the hated claim. Nothing prevents him from being hated and scum, which could easily prompt genuine emotion(if that's what people saw, because I didn't). Not radiating the town orcinus I have seen in the past. Tunnel on Skull is bullshit. Last time I thought he was weird, I was right and didn't listen to my instincts.

Scum:
Mastin- Explained this to death, realize it's not happening, still want the right to say I told you so in the event I actually got something right once in my life.

RUBEDO!

GIVE ME A SIGN

SET ME FREE,

RUBEDO!

Ceph looks pretty damn town in that post. AFB if you disagree I will want to understand why in excruciating detail.

In post 1056, sangres wrote:Ceph looks pretty damn town in that post. AFB if you disagree I will want to understand why in excruciating detail.

I remember the last time you said that.

do you remember?

In post 1057, ActionDan wrote:

In post 1056, sangres wrote:Ceph looks pretty damn town in that post. AFB if you disagree I will want to understand why in excruciating detail.

I remember the last time you said that.

do you remember?

I don't think I've ever said that before, except maybe once when I was scum and he was town.

I think Dan meant the Faraday uPick, thinking you're nacho.

This feels like NY 167 Ceph to me.

In post 1059, Cabd wrote:I think Dan meant the Faraday uPick, thinking you're nacho.

yup.

I didn't play that game. I dunno if I would have caught on to ceph if I'd been playing. I would probably have been too busy shouting about other scum that weren't getting lynched.

But this does feel like town-Ceph from NY 167 to me.

I didn't play that game. I dunno if I would have caught on to ceph if I'd been playing. I would probably have been too busy shouting about other scum that weren't getting lynched.

But this does feel like town-Ceph from NY 167 to me.

that ceph post strikes me as null.

The following vote is a vote.

VOTE: Kagami

Linguistics homework, catchup in this game.

Best during-superbowl activity ever.

my sister is a Linguistics major.

I'm not sure what you expect, kaze, you know nothing yet has happened in this game that's likely to get much from me.

The setup is pretty well concealed still; the only interesting bit is the neighborhood, and the most interesting part about that is what sangres already poked at, and we have AD trying to get rubedo to flavor claim (presumably AD is informed?)

My favorites for town atm are venmar, sangres, muffin, pie, varsoon, AD, and probably skull. Lean town on the other neighbors and maybe mastin.

In post 874, Kagami wrote:Mastin probably can think of another reason I would wait before weighing in here.

Care to expand on this? I'm not sure what you're saying here.

In post 881, Angry Frat BROs wrote:Also 819 is one of the towniest posts ever. Aegor is basically confirmed town.

Really? I dunno, something seems off about that post. His case on Kaze gives me the same feelings of unease that Kaze's case on Metal Sonic gives you -- he reiterates the things that others have said about Kaze, but in a way that feels more like a grab at Town points than a legitimate attempt to Scum-hunt. What is different between Aegor's 819 and your observations of Kaze's play in 879? I'm entertaining the possibility that Aegor and Kaze are Scum buddies. What do you think?

In post 888, Metal Sonic wrote:Who is flandre and is he an alt? Do we know his main?

You've asked this question several times now. Why are you so fixated on knowing who Flandre's main account is? What will that change?

In post 894, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:skull didn't ask me anything other than the hated claim, but it's the fact that he asked me to elaborate on the hated claim that makes him scum

Stop trying.

In post 907, Kazekirimaru wrote:

In post 868, pieguyn wrote: ftr here's the games I looked at
scum: Open 424: Jungle Republic, Mini 1442: House of Cards
town: The Red Wedding

Does he only have three completed games or something? I wouldn't call that a meta-dive.

What's your point? Does that completely invalidate Pieguy's observations on Venmar or something?

In post 918, Angry Frat BROs wrote:And I would never blatantly reaction test someone like that to see if they raged. Far too generic of a thing to look for. Im sure Varsoon is totally capable of being upset when hes scum.
I do WANT him to rage though because I think it will make him more transparent.

Regardless of alignment, have you ever seen Varsoon rage in general? He doesn't seem like a ragey type of player/person to me. What kind of information do you expect to gather from a raging Varsoon?

In post 932, Varsoon wrote:Can we lynch someone?
I just read like 5 pages with no votes.
I don't care if it's me, the PoE will help town win. Maybe. Actually, my interactions have been shit, so, probably not. Still.

Why do that when we can wait until the deadline sneaks up on us and then scramble to get a lynch through at the last minute while muttering "Oh shit oh shit oh shit" under our collective breaths?

Your vote has been on Mastin for a while. Do you still think he's the best lynch choice for today? Why or why not?

In post 969, Kazekirimaru wrote:The lack of push in any direction lately is...not something I'm used to working with. Huh.

If it concerns you, why don't you try to change it?

In post 975, Kazekirimaru wrote:Eh. To think we would have had a wagon to analyze eventually. Ah, well. ._.

This is your reaction to Muffin's fake-out IC claim, and it confuses the hell out of me. What wagon are you talking about here? Muffin's hypothetical future wagon that hasn't happened yet? Are you expressing disappointment because now we won't be able to analyze a wagon on a player who would have been confirmed as an IC in this alternate dimension? What if the IC claim had been real, he had a wagon going on him, and the people voting for him would have done so without knowing that he was an IC ahead of time? What information would you have gleaned from that and why is it any more useful than any other wagon in the game?

Kagami, Venmar, and Cephrir reacted to the IC claim the way that I would expect a Town player to react. You did not. Explain the reasoning behind your reaction, please, because I don't understand where you're coming from at all.

In post 987, sangres wrote:Can you eat a phone book anyways?
I think it would be funny.

Only if you say please.

In post 1010, Metal Sonic wrote:Because lying to be an ic? Why would he lie? I dunno, reaction test I guess

To me that's a scum move

So you're saying that reaction tests are more likely to come from Scum than Town? Why?

In post 1024, Metal Sonic wrote:i am confused

why on earth did you do that muffin???????

there is no reason to do so whatsoever

You, Kagami, Venmar, Cephrir, and Kaze all reacted to it, and that gives us something worthwhile. What do you make of those reactions?

In post 1027, MafiaSSK wrote:No the IC claim is just fake. That's just bad.

Same question to you.

In post 1049, Angry Frat BROs wrote:Everyone list your top 4 and we wagon the highest count person?

Aegor, Kaze, Flandre, Macmollie

In post 1068, Kagami wrote:we have AD trying to get rubedo to flavor claim (presumably AD is informed?)

How do you get an ActionDan Town-read from this? Do you think this has anything to do with his out-of-nowhere insistence that Flandre is Town and we should leave him alone?

I need some time to cool down, which means I'm ironically enough prod-dodging until I can think in a more level-headed rational function. I'll begin reading at page 32 and get caught up as soon as I'm back into a healthy mindset for playing. (Trust me, I'm not in one right now.)

In post 1070, Skullduggery wrote:

In post 1068, Kagami wrote:we have AD trying to get rubedo to flavor claim (presumably AD is informed?)

How do you get an ActionDan Town-read from this? Do you think this has anything to do with his out-of-nowhere insistence that Flandre is Town and we should leave him alone?

While this could be a goofy act, I don't think it is. I think AD is usually pretty reserved, so this strikes me as odd if it isn't a legitimate flavor-hunt.

If I were to guess, AD is nigredo and town-aligned.

In post 651, Cephrir wrote:I haven't read all these posts yet but I fucking told you pie was town

Venmar is scum for suggesting otherwise

Why did you say that Venmar is Scum for doubting Pieguy's Bodyguard claim? What does Scum-Venmar have to gain by persisting with his suspicion of Pieguy after the claim?

In post 1073, Kagami wrote:If I were to guess, AD is nigredo and town-aligned.

I'll take your word for it, I guess. I haven't played any of the Xenosaga games, so I'm not familiar with the flavor.