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↑ ZZZX wrote:

↑ T S O wrote:PMysterious is also conftown now, btw, Mhork.

Why?

I am a

JOAT

with (BP/RP/??/Cop) (I hide ?? for a special reasons)
N 1: Turkish Van copped (Inno which explains my sudden "meta" read even thou he had no stuff basically) or Godfather.
N 2: Idle.

My plan would be to BP this night and RP my biggest suspect next night. I will not change this one as its kind of perfect for the current situation.

Next

That's from when you first claimed.

↑ ZZZX wrote:

↑ Titus wrote:ZZZX, give me the short version...what abilities have you used? Results?

Also ever since Gundam Seed, neutrals tend to be lynched on site.

COP TURKISH = INNO

BP/RB/VIG unused.

I will VIG today so I want PV to be on me as a protection if possible.

-ZZZX

And I thought you were just claiming you copped her again last night?

You mean you sat idle again last night? That's almost as bad.

is it? bg/rp arr not effective with many players and vig is only good when i have a target

So you're saying with 4 powers in a 14-player game with 3 nights gone you've only used 1 power? How many days did you expect this to last? Especially with 2 Scum teams and a claim of 4 possible night kills?

↑ PMysterious wrote:

↑ Turkish Van wrote:Hey PM,

did you track if -- if you did, then whom?

I tracked Lord Mhork, but it failed miserably. I got no information on where he was at. Probably roleblocked by Mhork prior.

I watched PMysterious last night. He was visited by Mhork. If PMyst was ninja doctored, then Mhork tried to kill him. Otherwise, Mhork roleblecked him, while Mhork was nailed by bluescum (or 3p, but 3p killer and 3p BP are already gone).

If redscum blocked PMyst, they were killing elsewhere. They should have been killing me if they were not killing PMyst, so hypothetical doc coverage could have been on me. If so, good show.

Also to note, VT claims so far have been scum, and all vanilla flipped have been scum (goons).

My preferred lynches today are (mostly in this order):

ToastyToast (Wayne Ramsey, VT claim)
T S O (Bill O'Halloran, VT claim) or Turkish Van (Rachel Matheson, Town back-up Doc claim)
ZZZX (Aaron Pittman, JOAT claim) or Wake88/spruce (Justine Allenford, Town x-shot Commuter)

And these are prior to reading for interactions- they are just claim based.

Unless someone has more/better results.

Discuss.

Scum have roleblockers to stop follow the cop scenarios. That means more than one shot of cop.

I also have it on high authority PV is not red scum.


It is shocking that you never used a vig until now. I am tempted to say let you live and "vig" Spruce (if he's commuter he'd commute) but that would leave few lynch targets. Plus we need PV's results before acting.


We aren't lynching Mala. Mala has claimed backup doc. You were healed. Do the math.

That leaves Toasty ZZX and spruce.

Commuter with a doc...please. If Mala's scum, then ZZX must be as well. The problem is that would leave a 4 scum team. Asinine. Mala's town. If Mala's town a doctor exists and healed PV (see his post). So how can a commuter and a doctor both exust, impossible.

ZZZX is scum using the vig as his kill and will nk for roleblock.


One of the two should flip.

↑ Titus wrote:Scum have roleblockers to stop follow the cop scenarios. That means more than one shot of cop.

I also have it on high authority PV is not red scum.


It is shocking that you never used a vig until now. I am tempted to say let you live and "vig" Spruce (if he's commuter he'd commute) but that would leave few lynch targets. Plus we need PV's results before acting.


We aren't lynching Mala. Mala has claimed backup doc. You were healed. Do the math.

That leaves Toasty ZZX and spruce.

Commuter with a doc...please. If Mala's scum, then ZZX must be as well. The problem is that would leave a 4 scum team. Asinine. Mala's town. If Mala's town a doctor exists and healed PV (see his post). So how can a commuter and a doctor both exust, impossible.

ZZZX is scum using the vig as his kill and will nk for roleblock.


One of the two should flip.

uh this is the same reason I scum read bulba. The style of the reads....

Oh zzzx is scum. he must have been doing XXX to XXX.

This means you are justifying actions with a pre-set goal. You are not trying to know my allignment from my actions but trying to fit my actions into an allignment of your chooice.

I explained why I didnt use my actions and said my plan a few days ago. so I am sure of my plan and I now scum read you

Lol flail more. Setup is cracked.

↑ spruce wrote:So you're saying with 4 powers in a 14-player game with 3 nights gone you've only used 1 power? How many days did you expect this to last? Especially with 2 Scum teams and a claim of 4 possible night kills?

@ZZZX- would like to hear your thinking on this.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ spruce wrote:So you're saying with 4 powers in a 14-player game with 3 nights gone you've only used 1 power? How many days did you expect this to last? Especially with 2 Scum teams and a claim of 4 possible night kills?

@ZZZX- would like to hear your thinking on this.

I said it a few pages ago. It was the only logical conclution.

With me being scum read by a few people there is low reason I would be targetted at this stage and thus I didnt use my BG

the RB is useful at near lylo situations more

the vig... I dont think I had a target in mind a few days ago.

So basically I take the risk of getting killed first few days and then in the last days double town's chance of wining.

Why would I be lying about this?

Also in case I get lynched killed or whatever my cop result is that turkish is town. Not sure if there are GFs here thou.

Forgive me if I say so myself, but back when it was being discussed, my Town Commuter claim was rightly set against Marcrell's Bulletproof claim. Once Marcrell flipped Indie/Neutral my Town Commuter claim is looking pretty good, if you ask me. I agree with PV, that the last 2 Scum are in VT claims and investigative role claims - probably one of each. The only thing is, IF Scum is in a VT claim, that means the whole game only had 1 VT, and I find that highly unlikely too - the other VT claim must be a Doc who didn't want to claim (if Turk is being truthful, and I think she is).

Turkish Van (Rachel Matheson, Town back-up Doc claim)
ZZZX (Aaron Pittman, JOAT claim)
PeregrineV (Miles Matheson, Town Watcher claim)
Wake88/spruce (Justine Allenford, Town x-shot Commuter)
ToastyToast (Wayne Ramsey, VT claim)
T S O/Titus (Bill O'Halloran, VT claim) () ZZZX
PMysterious (Charlie Matheson, Town Tracker claim)

D1 Lynch: Paschendale,The Nano, Investigation-Immune/Unkillable SK
N1: Antihero, Danny Matheson, Town 2-shot Rolecop
N1: Salamence20, Nora Clayton, Town 2-shot Lie Detector
D2 Lynch: Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Sebastian Monroe, Monroe Scum Strongman/Roleblocker
N2: Bulbazak, Dr. Calvin Horn, Patriot Goon
N2: Josh_B/Neil, Connor Bennett/Monroe, Monroe Goon
D3 Lynch: Marcrell. Grace Beaumont, Self-aligned 2-shot Bulletproof Survivor
N3: Lord Mhork, President Jack Davis, Patriots Scum Strongman/Roleblocker

I also found it kind of strange that there were so little VT claims, but isn't Majiffy "somewhat" bastard? I mean this game is really powerheavy and really scumheavy, so maybe he put in 2 VT's to throw people off?

Scum are in Toasty, ZZX and Spruce. Everyone else is clear via vlaims.

I am the doctor. Healed PV. This should surprise no one. Mala, by her existance, vouches I am doc. I vouch I healed PV. PV vouches for PM going nowhere.

That leaves Toasy Spruce and ZZZX.

Lynching scum today puts us in a situation where it is impossible for scum to win.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

@Majifyy- Does a strongman in your game kill a commuter?

I am not a VT either...I just rolled one of my least favorite roles and thought i would get policy lynched because of it.

I am a 2-shot Town Redirector. I have only used one of my shots, and I think using it again would cause too much trouble for us since we are so close to finding all the scum.

On night 2, I redirected neil1113 to bulba because I thought both of them were scummy didn't want them doing any role schenanigans. And then I laughed for days when I saw the flip, so at least I got that to happen.

I think this confirms that Spruce and ZZZX are the last scum.

IF you guys are Town, and I don't think you are, you are the scummiest antitown players I have ever seen. TSO especially was yelling for Town powers to out so Scum could kill them, and he orchestrated it so he was the last to claim... then lied about it after setting up the rest of Town. If he even is a Doc, he's a Scum Doc for sure.

...all the while claiming there was only one Scum left, when he knew there were three.

Titus or Toasty - that's where our votes should be today.

↑ spruce wrote:...all the while claiming there was only one Scum left, when he knew there were three.

so you are going after a claimed doctor when we have a claimed back-up doctor? You do realize someone could easily counterclaim him if he's lying, right?

Great you direct any nightkills off of me tonight onto ZZX or spruce if i die u get lynched.

Spruce flail more. Mala cannot be a backup doc if there is no doc. While backups can be differing alignments it is rare. Shift alignments to get a commuter nah...

Logically when I subbed in 6 scum plus 2 neuts was very powerful.

F spruce can commute, he commutes.

We lynch zzx.

The only reason you just claimed, Toast, is 'cause I forced you - Jiffy's not gonna have just 1 VT in a game. And if Titus were a Town Doc he would have countered Scum-SKOT's fake Doc claim, except that Turk had already suggested the Doc might be Scum. So what does TSO/Titus do instead? That's right, he pushes hard for a Town mass claim to our all our power roles and just where they are, without ever claiming what he's claiming now for himself.

How exactly did you force me to claim?