Mini 1602: Game Over

[SleepyKrew]

VC 4.01

AGar

(2) - Nachomamma8, Bert

Bert

(2) - sthar8, nopointinactingup

Not Voting

(3) - AGar, Aneninen, notscience

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Day 4 deadline will hit in: (expired on 2014-10-15 16:40:36).

sthar8 is V/LA until the 5th.

[notscience]

prod acknowledged, here tomorrow

[notscience]

Can I have the hammer on Agar?

[Nachomamma8]

I'm fine with an AGar lynch too. Why don't you think Bert is scum?

If you're fine with an AGar lynch, why can't we lynch him first? I'm uncomfortable with a Bert lynch because self aware play is one of the strongest indications of his town game that exists and I think the pushes he's making aren't good for Bert scum.

[Nachomamma8]

I don't think I'm going to surprise you now but your answer was very weak

As town in our past game together, you had no qualms about leading out with votes on me during every single game day I was alive! You seem so cautious here!

Who are you and what have you done with And Then And Then???

Like this, which is an argument that says that Anen voting Bert is normal and him waiting to vote Bert is abnormal. I think this is a weird argument for Bert scum to make because it makes Amen more likely to vote Bert

[nopointinactingup]

Ok
VOTE: Agar

That's L-1

[Aneninen]

I'd hammer AGar too if needed. But, I don't thing we should do that before he posts something.

Also, Notscience, if you're a Friendly Neighbour, can you tell us whom you visited at previous Nights? Alternatively, can anyone confirm that role? (I don't think Notscience is scum, I just need information. If you think this would help the scums more, please explain why and I won't bring the topic up again.)

[Bert]

Prod dodge. Weekend. See you Monday.

[AGar]

VOTE: AGar

[SleepyKrew]

VC 4.02

AGar

(4) - Nachomamma8, Bert, nopointinactingup, AGar

Bert

(1) - sthar8

Not Voting

(2) - Aneninen, notscience

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[SleepyKrew]

Sorry for the delay!

AGar has been lynched. He was a

Mafia Goon

.
Night 4 begins now. The deadline to submit actions is (expired on 2014-10-08 12:40:18).

I want everyone to PM me during the Night, regardless of if you have an action or not, so I can be sure you're all still active.

[SleepyKrew]

Nachomamma8 has been killed. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

[SleepyKrew]

VC 5.0

Not Voting

(5) - nopointinactingup, Aneninen, Bert, notscience, sthar8

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Day 5 deadline will hit in: (expired on 2014-10-22 15:08:28).

[sthar8]

cephrir just sent me a pm about the day opening.

I need a reread just in case I'm biasing.

[Bert]

Spoiler: even stevens :)

Vote: AGar

Sthar is the other one, fwiw.

So. The names, in a scum >>> town order:
AGar, Nacho, Bert, Sthar, NPIAU, Notscience. (Unsure about the Nacho/Bert pair.)

I'm not willing to lynch [notscience, nacho, ane or sthar] today btw. That leaves Agar and Bert. Possibly both are scum.

I think its 1 of the 3 on the D1 wagon before shadowez, but agar is out of the running

and 1 of the 3 after shadowez minus mala

If I'm dead or alive I want NPAU in the dead thread the following. Day

[Bert]

Crunch time, and I'm still burned out. Yuck.

my only past solo game with sthar

I replaced Mitillos, and all sthar did was tunnel me when I replaced in. I don't think me not being burned out would make much of a difference with his read (and it being based in some part on Phok's play).

yep

Bert, Mitillos should be ashamed of that replace. Thanks for trying, though. VOTE: Bert

If you think I'm scum, then vote me. Even if you haven't finished reading the game yet, I'm the only person you've mentioned as scum. You're up on the votecount enough to know that I only have one other vote on me, so it's not like you're afraid of accidentally hammering.

So why aren't you voting?

notscience we should talk this game day because you'll be next kill if the game goes on IMO. Nacho was the main threat to scum remaining. I don't think me speaking with sthar will do me or him any good IMO since he's just biased based on phok's play.

Based on the reads I just looked at, I think it's mostly a given that nopointinactingup and sthar8 will vote me. Anen (along with you) basically are the swing voters.

I was pretty surprised AGar self-hammered. Right when it happened, I was like yeah he's flipping scum. That was a gift IMO because it was still possible for him to just be active and turn his lynch around IMO. The reasoning around his lynch (aside from Nacho's push) stemmed from low activity, etc., so I don't think his wagon is a tell-all of anything.

[Bert]

ETA: Last post, heading out for the afternoon anyways.

So...I think Anen has me as his/her top remaining scumread. So yeah, that's 3 votes likely on me which is enough. If it becomes sthar vs. Anen vs. nopointinactingup in LYLO, I don't feel good about winning chances. I know that I played similarly horribly in my past game with Anen, and town ended up having Anen + sthar (late replacement after I died?) in 5P 1 vs. 4. That was a town loss. But Guyett was being more townread than any of the remaining players aside from notscience, so there's that too...

Anen is reading sthar as strong strong strong town, so if Anen is town, then if sthar is scum, town will lose in 3P LYLO no matter what.

OK I am being tunnel-visioned about the future.

I should try to remain positive though. I believe! lol.

[Bert]

Well, still unmotivated but present (that counts for something??? ha...no).

Looking back and I just saw NPIAU's VCA for Day 1 and Day 2. Sorting through this, although I don't have it stored in my memory which players replaced which.

sthar replaced grandi and rack, neil replaced flames, and notscience replaced tman2nd. nopointinactingup replaced ZZZX and chaoslord. Anen is the only living player without a predecessor.

@NPIAU: Have I skimmed over your conclusion or you haven't posted it yet?

Both. You have skimmed over the part where I said I have not made a conclusion yet

For now I have to leave for appointment.

I'll come back with Day 2 analysis and Verdict soon.

For now, let's begin
Day 2 Vote count:

Spoiler: Part 1

VC 2.01

Oso (2) - AGar, implosion

chaoslord54

(1) - Malakittens
tman2nd (1) - Aneninen
Not Voting (7) - Oso,

chaoslord54

, phokdapolees,

shaddowez

, tman2nd,

Elias_the_thief

, rack

VC 2.02

Oso (2) - AGar, implosion

chaoslord54

(2) - Malakittens,

DeasVail

tman2nd (1) - Aneninen
Not Voting (6) - Oso,

chaoslord54

, phokdapolees,

shaddowez,

tman2nd, rack

VC 2.03

chaoslord54

(4) - Malakittens,

DeasVail

, phokdapolees,

shaddowez

Oso (2) - AGar, implosion
tman2nd (1) - Aneninen
phokdapolees (1) - Oso
Not Voting (3) -

chaoslord54

, tman2nd, Grandi

There's not really much definite conclusion to see on this day since there's no flipped scum. However, some circumstantial and relational information can be gathered here. Until this VC, the wagon had moved from Oso/Bipolar to my slot. The first thing we could see is that

Implosion is unlikely scumnected to Oso/Bipolar

(Assuming standard 3-scum. Having lost first partner, I don't think scum would go at each other on Day 2). However, Phok, if scum,

would likely be scumnected to Oso/Bipolar

since he had the vote which created the competing wagon on my slot. Although that vote looks justified.

Spoiler: Part 2

VC 2.04

chaoslord54

(3) - Malakittens, phokdapolees,

shaddowez

BipolarChemist (2) - AGar, implosion
tman2nd (1) - Aneninen
phokdapolees (1) - BipolarChemist

shaddowez

(1) -

DeasVail

Not Voting (3) -

chaoslord54

, tman2nd, Grandi

VC 2.05

shaddowez

(3) -

DeasVail

, implosion, AGar

ZZZX

(2) - Malakittens, phokdapolees
phokdapolees (1) - BipolarChemist
Not Voting (5) -

ZZZX

, tman2nd, sthar8,

shaddowez,

Aneninen

VC 2.06

shaddowez

(3) -

DeasVail

, implosion, AGar

ZZZX

(2) - Malakittens, phokdapolees
phokdapolees (1) - BipolarChemist
Not Voting (5) -

ZZZX

, tman2nd, sthar8,

shaddowez

, Aneninen

VC 2.07

shaddowez

(3) -

DeasVail

, implosion, AGar

ZZZX

(2) - Malakittens, phokdapolees
phokdapolees (1) - BipolarChemist
BipolarChemist (1) - Aneninen

DeasVail

(1) -

shaddowez

Not Voting (3) - ZZZX, tman2nd, sthar8

VC 2.08

shaddowez

(3) -

DeasVail

, implosion, AGar

ZZZX

(2) - Malakittens, phokdapolees

DeasVail

(2) - shaddowez, BipolarChemist
BipolarChemist (1) - Aneninen
Not Voting (3) -

ZZZX

, notscience, sthar8

VC 2.09

shaddowez (3) -

DeasVail,

implosion, AGar

ZZZX

(2) - Malakittens, phokdapolees

DeasVail

(2) -

shaddowez

, BipolarChemist
BipolarChemist (1) - Aneninen
phokdapolees (1) - sthar8
Not Voting (2) -

ZZZX,

notscience

VC 2.10

shaddowez

(4) -

DeasVail,

implosion, AGar, Aneninen

ZZZX

(4) - Malakittens, phokdapolees, notscience,

shaddowez

DeasVail

(1) - BipolarChemist
phokdapolees (1) - sthar8
Not Voting (1) -

ZZZX

VC 2.11

shaddowez

(6) -

DeasVail

, implosion, AGar, Aneninen, sthar8, BipolarChemist

ZZZX

(4) - Malakittens, phokdapolees, notscience,

shaddowez

Not Voting (1) -

ZZZX

The rest of the day turned into the town lynch driven by desvail, implosion and Agar. What's interesting to me is that all of the wagons are town wagons. Now this has some elements of WIFOM but I would conjecture that in such case, scum initially would gather outside competing wagons so as to avoid pressure the next day and set-up more mislynch. This leads me to suspect Bipolar.

Conclusion: Assuming scum is rational, my verdict would be

[Town]

(in order from towniest)

Aneninem

: Cleared from VCA of Day 1.

Town

Malakittens

: Townish tone and that last interaction w+ hammer with Neil is telling that they aren't scum together.

Town

AGar

: Sit at scum all Day 1 despite controversy. However, I would acknowledge that he's a pretty devious player .

Most likely town

sthar8

: Compelling counter wagon with flames on Day 1. Flames jumped on Rack despite off-pressure on VC 1.06.

Most likely town

[Scummy]

(in order from least scummy)

Tmand

: Has both town and scum points. I like that he moved off rack early when [Flames/Rack] competing wagon in VC1.09 but his unvoting on Neil is scummy.

Null to scummy

Bipolar

: Some points against him in VCA, but Deasvail flip is some evidence he could be town.

Null to scummy

Implosion

: Unvote revote on Neil was scummy.

[Likely scum]

Phok

: A lot of scummy points from interaction with Neil

[Likely scum]

Me thinks this game will be solved if we lynch among the scummies since there are a lot of strong townies read.
VOTE: Phok

prod dodge

I will say that I like np's VCA tho

Since my analysis points out that you are likely scum. Can you respond to it?

DAY 1 Vote count analysis:

Spoiler: Part 1

VC 1.01

Flames682

(4) -

Tammy

, phokdapolees,

Elias_the_thief

, AGar
rack (1) - Aneninen

Tammy

(1) -

Flames682

AGar (1) - implosion
implosion (1)

shaddowez

Not Voting (5) - Riabi,

chaoslord54

, Malakittens, tman2nd, rack

VC 1.02

Flames682

(3) -

Tammy

,

Elias_the_thief

, AGar
rack (2) - Aneninen, implosion

Tammy

(2) -

Flames682

, phokdapolees
tman2nd (2) - Riabi, Malakittens
AGar (1) - rack
Riabi (1) - tman2nd
implosion (1) -

shaddowez

Not Voting (1) -

chaoslord54

--> Flames RVS wagon gets hot. One thing stood out. Phok immediately left the wagon with This post. Looks like a soft chainsaw defense of Flames. But would scumbuddy chainsaw that early? A slight scummy for Phok in this regard.

Spoiler: Part 2

VC 1.03

rack (3) - Aneninen, implosion, tman2nd

Flames682

(2) -

Elias_the_thief

, AGar
tman2nd (2) - Riabi, Malakittens
Malakittens (2) -

Tammy

, rack

Tammy

(1) - phokdapolees
phokdapolees (1) -

Flames682

implosion (1) -

shaddowez

Not Voting (1) -

chaoslord54

VC 1.04

rack (4) - Aneninen, implosion,

Elias_the_thief

, phokdapolees
phokdapolees (3) -

Flames682

,

shaddowez

, rack
tman2nd (2) - Riabi, Malakittens

Flames682

(1) - AGar
Malakittens (1) -

Tammy

Not Voting (2) -

chaoslord54

, tman2nd

VC 1.05

rack (4) - Aneninen,

Elias_the_thief

, phokdapolees, tman2nd
phokdapolees (3) -

Flames682

,

shaddowez

, rack
Malakittens (2) -

Tammy

, implosion
tman2nd (1) - Riabi

Flames682

(1) - AGar
Aneninen (1) - Malakittens
Not Voting (1) -

chaoslord54

VC 1.06

rack (5) - Aneninen,

Elias_the_thief

, phokdapolees, tman2nd,

Flames682

Malakittens (2) -

Tammy

, implosion
phokdapolees (1) - rack
tman2nd (1) - Riabi

Flames682

(1) - AGar
Aneninen (1) - Malakittens
Not Voting (2) -

chaoslord54, shaddowez

--> Here is the build up of the counter wagon on rack. Phok was suddenly on this by the 4th count: This post, sheepish I would suppose. What's more interesting is that Flames hopped off Phok's wagon just when it started to pick up. Implosion was the opposite of Phok. He jumped off onto mala. If rack was town this makes implosion townish.

Spoiler: Part 3

VC 1.07

rack (5) - Aneninen, phokdapolees, tman2nd,

Flames682

,

chaoslord54

Malakittens (2) -

Tammy

, implosion
Aneninen (2) -

Malakittens

,

Elias_the_thief

phokdapolees (1) - rack
tman2nd (1) - Riabi

Flames682

(1) - AGar
Not Voting (1) -

shaddowez

This part is interesting. As his wagon has just getting disbanded. I don't think Flame would have tried to buss supposedly scumbuddy here. Rack looks to be town from this VCA.

Spoiler: Part 4

VC 1.08

rack (3) - phokdapolees,

Flames682

,

chaoslord54

Flames682

(3) - AGar, implosion, Aneninen
Aneninen (2) - Malakittens,

Elias_the_thief

Malakittens (1) -

Tammy

phokdapolees (1) - rack
tman2nd (1) - Riabi
Not Voting (2) -

shaddowez

, tman2nd

He is the moment where Flame's wagon picked up again. This part clears Ane to a large extent as it makes no sense that he would leave the first position on a mislynch to bus his partner.

Spoiler: Part 5

VC 1.09

Flames682

(4) - AGar, implosion, Aneninen, tman2nd
rack (2) - phokdapolees,

Flames682

Aneninen (2) - Malakittens,

Elias_the_thief

Malakittens (1) -

chaoslord54

phokdapolees (1) - rack
tman2nd (1) - Riabi
Not Voting (2) -

shaddowez, Tammy

VC 1.10

Flames682

(5) - AGar, implosion, Aneninen, tman2nd,

Elias_the_thief

rack (2) - phokdapolees,

Flames682

Aneninen (1) - Malakittens
Malakittens (1) -

chaoslord54

phokdapolees (1) - rack
tman2nd (1) - Riabi
Not Voting (2) -

shaddowez, Tammy

VC 1.11

Flames682

(5) - AGar, implosion, Aneninen, tman2nd,

shaddowez

rack (2) - phokdapolees,

Flames682

tman2nd (2) - Riabi, Malakittens
Malakittens (1) -

chaoslord54

phokdapolees (1) - rack
Not Voting (2) -

Tammy, Elias_the_thief

VC 1.12

neil1113

(3) - AGar, Aneninen, tman2nd
rack (2) - phokdapolees,

neil1113

tman2nd (2) - Riabi, Malakittens
Malakittens (1) -

chaoslord54

phokdapolees (1) - rack
Not Voting (4) -

Elias_the_thief, Tammy

, implosion,

shaddowez

VC 1.13

neil1113

(5) - AGar, Aneninen, phokdapolees, implosion,

chaoslord54

tman2nd (2) - Riabi, Malakittens
rack (1) -

neil1113

phokdapolees (1) - rack
Not Voting (4) -

Elias_the_thief, Tammy, shaddowez

, tman2nd

VC 1.14

neil1113

(6) - AGar, Aneninen, phokdapolees, implosion,

chaoslord54

,

shaddowez

tman2nd (2) - Riabi, Malakittens
rack (2) -

neil1113

,

Elias_the_thief

Not Voting (3) -

Tammy

, tman2nd, rack

VC 1.15

neil1113

(4) - AGar, phokdapolees,

chaoslord54

,

shaddowez

tman2nd (2) - Oso, Malakittens
rack (2) -

neil1113

,

Elias_the_thief

Not Voting (5) -

Tammy

, tman2nd, rack, Aneninen, implosion

VC 1.16

neil1113

(5) - AGar, phokdapolees,

chaoslord54, shaddowez

, Aneninen
tman2nd (2) - Oso, Malakittens
rack (2) -

neil1113

,

Elias_the_thief

Not Voting (4) -

Tammy

, tman2nd, rack, implosion

VC. 1.17

neil1113

(7) - AGar, phokdapolees,

chaoslord54, shaddowez

, Aneninen, implosion, Malakittens
rack (2) -

neil1113

,

Elias_the_thief

tman2nd (1) - Oso
Not Voting (3) -

Tammy

, tman2nd, rack

This is the part where the wagon stalled for so long before finally reaching the lynch on scum. This stall was no doubt intentional. There was a lot of unvote revote, especially when neil came into the game. For now, what I see most suspicious was implosion's activity. He seems to be unvoting whenever there is a burst in Flame's voting activity and yet always revote. It would make sense that implosion is not sure whether there will be a lynch on his buddy and thus, whether he should buss his buddy. I will spend more time looking at the specifics of this interaction. For now, implosion looks scummy from this.

For now I have to leave for appointment.

I'll come back with Day 2 analysis and Verdict soon.

Day 1 Part 2 by NPIAU

[Aneninen]

Both of my scumreads are dead. One got lynched (and I didn't dare to vote) the other got Nightkilled.
I know it appears scummy but I don't know what to do now. I need some time.

[Bert]

I crashed and slept on the floor in the middle of reading.

Okay, so if AGar did bus his whole team again, sthar doesn't make that much sense. Next to no interactions with that slot except weakly worded questions. Anen's slot would fit into the bussed scum based on his Anen pushes that didn't accompany real vote or explanation. Just "fine if Anen isn't getting lynxhed, I'll vote X."

Otoh, interactions with nopoint's slot felt like AGar actually was pushing to see if others might vote on nopoint's wagon.

/mobile

Bbl

[Bert]

Tl;dr I am tempted to believe that AGar shockingly didn't buss both partners...

Am I crazy?

[Aneninen]

I know that I should provide answers, since I'm the only one who's here from the start. But right now, I only have questions.

(1) Why got Nacho Nightkilled? He posted that Sthar is the other scum. This might point toward Sthar but in this case that would have been a lame Nightkill. WIFOM?
(2) Why didn't Notscience get Nightkilled? Is he really a Friendly Neighbour or something like that? Can someone confirm that?
(3) Why selfhammered AGar? Because of the lack of a counterwagon? Bert might have been one, this points toward him. Or, because his partner might have blown the things up by protecting him? (Points toward Sthar, Notscience and me ^_^ Or anyone who could have jumped off his wagon?)
(4) Do we have a PR here? If Notscience is one we have a confirmed townie. Anyone else? Why did we have a Bodyguard? To protect a Friendly Neighbor or just for fun?
(5) On Day3, NPIAU was a counterwagon. Is that important? (By the way, I was the second name on the Implosion wagon and the next 3 players jumping on it were town.)
(6) Everyone has been pretty inactive since Day3. Why? Would it be possible that there has been no wagon against the remaining scum so far? (Points toward Sthar, Notscience and me.)
(7) Let's see the Nightkills. Tammy – obvtown. DeasVail – PR (could it have been sheer luck?). Malakitty – failed PR-hunting? (She was so sure about Notscience as if she had been a Cop?). Nachomamma – ??? (PR-hunting? Maybe, but not the Cop. If Nacho had flipped Cop, the game would be won because we'd quicklynch Sthar. Would we?)

[Bert]

Yes, you should provide ansuz!

(1) Threat to scum!
(2) not the biggest threat to scum, even if pseudo-confirmed. Nacho was the most active player the past two game days in terms of pushes/content
(3) that is the question only the scum have the answer for!
(4) are you saying you'd like to massclaim? that's the only way to find out how many PR's there are, and to find out more about this setup
(5) Sure it is.
(6) Because most people here have been busy IRL.
(7) Nacho's a big threat to scum when town and a common nightkill like Tammy. There is nothing else about the NK to see there really. I have played many games with him before.

[Bert]

I think:

it is Anen after reading the game last night. Even after his scumreads died in my old completed game with him, he still kept leading out with pushes on different players (EVEN after I died, he went after Riddleton immediately the next day or so, irrc). Plus his hesitancy to even vote me yesterday was extremely weird, despite him calling all my answers weak and everything. Also, if AGar bussed, it looks like it was Anen.

However, I'm afraid I'm overlooking sthar or NPIAU. And then Nacho called sthar the last scum pre-death. He did a lot more work on this game than I did, and has more skills so.....I think I have to vote sthar here or suggest definitely considering one tomorrow, although I *think* I'm the designated lynch today or tomorrow if there is one.

My other biggest suspect besides Neil is chaos lord. He just feels like he's trying to look involved in the game but really isn't trying to figure out the game.

I have the same feeling with Elias though. He also still didn't answer my question why it was wifom for my tell with Rack. It's my tell, and unless Rack had been in a game with me where I used that tell to call someone town, then it can't be wifom. And really it would be silly in the first place. it's like he's trying to argue that Rack went oh Tammy thinks unhelpful people tend to be town so I'm going to claim to have meta and then refuse to answer because then Tammy will call me town for refusing to answer. And that wasn't the point I was making in the first place, considering I ended up calling it a null town. Oh also scum aren't more preservationists than town. Some people hate getting mislynched worse than correctly lynched. I feel like Elias is focusing on the wrong thing there, and asked me a question about it just to do it. It felt like busy work.

Elias was replaced by DV. Chaos was replaced by NPIAU.

I still like my town reads for the most part. If Neil comes back scum, I think I'll feel even better about Agar as it doesn't feel like a bus. I think. Well that's how I feel right now.

So, Mala and Tammy had NPIAU as top scumread when they died. Nacho had sthar. I don't know what to do. So I guess I should look at this game and try to post something that isn't terrible for once later today (don't count on it though! I am burned out)!

Do I put myself aside (smart move IMO) and sheep? But sheep whom??? Or do I see how an Anen vote feels. Nah.

So.

VOTE: nopointinactingup

Vote is but a token, as the wagon *probably* becomes me.

Short case on Berty:

Point 1: VCA analysis and possible interaction with scum-Neil.

Point 2: Latest posts with fluff, unfulfilled promises and role speculation --> Scum

Point 3: Process of elimination indicates that Bert-Agar is likely scum.

I'm fine with an AGar lynch too. Why don't you think Bert is scum?

Ok
VOTE: Agar

That's L-1

Hello all. My feeling after the Malakittens Vanilla Townie reveal is that notscience is a friendly neighbor. Just throwing that out there.

This shows that you've put a lot of thoughts about this. Perhaps overnight.

~~~~
I'm not willing to lynch [notscience, nacho, ane or sthar] today btw. That leaves Agar and Bert. Possibly both are scum.

Vote:Bert

This leads to AGar later self-voting. nopointinactingup picks me over AGar for no explicable reason, and then once he switches, AGar comes in after lurking a whole day and self-hammers. He called me out for "inactivity, putting a lot of thoughts in overnight (??), etc?"

Then, consider what he said about AGar at the end of Day 3. How does that lead to AGar and me being his top scumreads? Why put AGar in the pool?

Agar's play today has been bad, but that in no ways warrantee a lynch. He's been on the Flame/Neil wagon all Day 1. We've got scummier fish to fry, aka Implosion.

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FULL CIRCLE I JUST WENT FULL CIRCLE

[Bert]

I really want town to win, in spite of my own play. it just does not look good if tomorrow is 3P LYLO without a confirmed town or someone I think will win us the game because he/she has it going this game. I really hope I'm wrong!

I really think Anen is the last scum, but I am honest with myself that my reads typically are terrible and based on 0.00001% reasoning (to be kind, I made it a nonzero percentage, although it should be zero given my involvement in this game), that there are well-reasoned reads from dead people that are 150% worth sheeping/following, that they were killed because of their influence, and that meta (regarding AGar's tendencies, Anen's play) is extremely unreliable when used by a player like myself for a myriad of reasons (small sample size, them being aware of their meta, etc.).

2 dead people went for NPIAU. Nacho stopped the wagon himself though. So he saw something some of us didn't. However, Mala saw something in NPIAU too. I DONT KNOW

when in doubt, just sheep!

WOOOOOO

Spoiler: FOR GOOD LUCK

We have kitty support!!!!!!!!