Mini 1701 - Modified Werewolf 13er

[Kmd4390]

Pretty sure his impression of Boon is that his town game sucks but his scum game is good so Boon playing poorly means he's town.

[Boonskiies]

Pretty sure his impression of Boon is that his town game sucks but his scum game is good so Boon playing poorly means he's town.

Yeah, it's quite a predicament. But when I play well as town, I get lynched or NK'd real early. Easier to put everything together around Day 3. I've been referred to as a Heavy/Power Player before, so it's all relative.

[Boonskiies]

I'm voting BBT because of his fake read on Boon.
- He says that Boon is town because he is playing too scummy to be scum.
- Redff says that Woody is town for the exact same reason.
- BBT tells Redff that is a horrible reason to call someone town.

This means BBT is making up a false reason for why Boon is town, i.e. a reason he does not believe in. There is no town motivation in this play, only scum motivation (buddying).

BBT knows if I was scum, I would be HARD trying to make sure he doesn't scum read me. I've obviously put little effort into this game, and therefore, he figured out I'm town. I wouldn't have had the audacity as scum to play the way I am. I've tried mimicking this kind of attitude before with him, and even then he knows I'm scum (pokemon).

I don't feel he is buddying me. It would be pointless. I'm not active enough to legitimately defend him, and I'd be too easy of a mislynch for him down the line. BBT is town.

[Boonskiies]

Also, Absta feels he can no longer push me for a lynch, due to Banakai flipping werewolf, so he is pushing the next best thing that is revolving around a similar situation: BBT town reading the person he tried to mislynch.

[Boonskiies]

Alright, just read Tony's ISO. His comments regarding Banakai are quite suspicious and I have a feeling he is scum.

Had to look up #305 on this one. As far as potential scumslips go, it's definitely worth noting. To play devils advocate, the fact that the sentence in question has its share of grammar and spelling mistakes could indicate it just being another of those, but I've seen less speculative scumslip reads.

This is regarding the sentence HC brought up about Banakai. It feels like Tony is trying to defend Banakai. As far as I can see, Tony didn't have to defend Banakai for this and the grammar/spelling mistake defense seems forced.

This being said, you believe ScumBBT was pushing that hard for a counterwagon for Banakai, ONTO a different scum partner in Tony? He was pretty sold on voting Tony yesterday, and the fact that you are pushing for Tony now makes me feel like Tony is also town.

[Boonskiies]

Alright, Boon is likely-town due to that flip on Banakai.

Also, this is stating the obvious, and is just trying to get town cred and buddy up to me as well.

[Boonskiies]

Also, wtf? I have tied for the 4th most posts in this game. How'd that happen?

[Boonskiies]

I feel like this game has been ruined now.

This is actually a big scum tell. This was referring to my self-voting. From a scum perspective, it looked as if I was super obviously borderline confirmed town; from a town perspective it would have been seen as all WIFOM. Town wouldn't have thought the game would have been ruined.

[Boonskiies]

God damn I had a case written for boon but he just made a case for himself

post it anyway.

this is coaching, and Absta asking for help on the case. The front page doesn't say that scum has day talk, so that means they don't, as we know they don't have an encryptor. Banakai comes to Absta's aid.

[Shinobi]

Vote Count

absta101

(2):

Boonskiies, redFF

Zoronos

(2):

RedCoyote, Kmd4390

BlueBloodedToffee

(2):

absta101, Doctor Who

Doctor Who

(1):

BlueBloodedToffee

Kmd4390

(1):

Zoronos

Not Voting

(3):

Keyser Söze, Bulbazoor, TonyMontana

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-22 14:00:00)

[Bulbazoor]

God damn I had a case written for boon but he just made a case for himself

post it anyway.

this is coaching, and Absta asking for help on the case. The front page doesn't say that scum has day talk, so that means they don't, as we know they don't have an encryptor. Banakai comes to Absta's aid.

What was the point in this post? Of course there is no encryptor. The mod put that in the setup spec in the first post of the game. So I see no point in bringing this up tbh. What makez you think an encryptor is possible?

[Boonskiies]

Oh, it's simple...It's Banakai, Kmd, and Absta. LOLOLOLOL. GG.

Solid town read:

redFF
Tony
BBT
Keyser

null ish on:

Who
Bulb
RC
Zoronos

Scum:

KMD
Absta.


Scum is definitely trying to get a wagon started that isn't Absta. that much is certain. Which would bring us to Zoronos/BBT. BBT is pushing Who, so Who is OMGUS'ing, but not scum.

[Boonskiies]

God damn I had a case written for boon but he just made a case for himself

post it anyway.

this is coaching, and Absta asking for help on the case. The front page doesn't say that scum has day talk, so that means they don't, as we know they don't have an encryptor. Banakai comes to Absta's aid.

What was the point in this post? Of course there is no encryptor. The mod put that in the setup spec in the first post of the game. So I see no point in bringing this up tbh. What makez you think an encryptor is possible?

I don't? I flat out said "we know they don't have an encryptor". It's an open setup..The point of the post was to bring up the fact that they don't have daytalk and they were coaching. Can you actually read a post? Like come on...

[Boonskiies]

You are literally just trying to look for anything to call a case. And actually, put Bulb as a possiblity down for scum if Kmd isn't.

[Bulbazoor]

But why bring it up? We know there is no encyptor person.

I am just asking.

Pedit: boon. I would have started a wagon on you already. Consider that.

[Boonskiies]

Actually, I'm not sure if Bulb would have bused that early, he's not at the same level as kmd.

[Bulbazoor]

And I would not have called you town.

[Boonskiies]

But why bring it up? We know there is no encyptor person.

I am just asking.

Pedit: boon. I would have started a wagon on you already. Consider that.

I see no reason not to...apparently it wasn't obvious to everyone at first that this was an open setup; there was a conversation about it earlier.

[Boonskiies]

What are your thoughts on Absta? He was clearly saved by Banakai yesterDay.

[Bulbazoor]

I do not see why he would be able to bring so much attention to himself as scum. I will reread him to consider where I am at today.

[Boonskiies]

I don't believe he is bringing that much attention to himself as scum. Banakai took the fall for him, and absta slid under the radar.

[Bulbazoor]

Just vote Boon or banakai. We don't have much time.

Just consider. Why would he flat out say this when he could have been trykng to save him if they were ww together. Why would you say it was to early to bus when he voted on ban too. So you have t o believe absta could not have been bussing that early. Sonce you are applying that to me and not absta.

Also, a vote to put his partner at l-2 would have been suboptimal if they were the team of ww. Consider this: ban and absta bus each other.

That would be stupid, considering that they could have just ignored each other.

Now.. I would like all of us to take a look at the iso of the flipped ww. All of us. I feel like looking for any associatives that the ww tried to tie to himself would be helpful. Scum mightt have even been away from the wagon.

[Boonskiies]

Just vote Boon or banakai. We don't have much time.

Just consider. Why would he flat out say this when he could have been trykng to save him if they were ww together. Why would you say it was to early to bus when he voted on ban too. So you have t o believe absta could not have been bussing that early. Sonce you are applying that to me and not absta.

Also, a vote to put his partner at l-2 would have been suboptimal if they were the team of ww. Consider this: ban and absta bus each other.

That would be stupid, considering that they could have just ignored each other.

Now.. I would like all of us to take a look at the iso of the flipped ww. All of us. I feel like looking for any associatives that the ww tried to tie to himself would be helpful. Scum mightt have even been away from the wagon.

Banakai was voting me. He said that because he wasn't sure if he could avoid a Banakai lynch. He would have voted me if it would have picked up. He got on the banakai wagon because at least one scum had to bus. It was Day 1. Banakai self-hammering proves that there was one scum on the wagon already, and one potentially feeling the need to hammer, so banakai hammed before they had to make the decision. Which is why I believe it to be Kmd as the 3rd scum.

[RedCoyote]

I'm voting BBT because of his fake read on Boon.
- He says that Boon is town because he is playing too scummy to be scum.
- Redff says that Woody is town for the exact same reason.
- BBT tells Redff that is a horrible reason to call someone town.

This means BBT is making up a false reason for why Boon is town, i.e. a reason he does not believe in. There is no town motivation in this play, only scum motivation (buddying).

And how come Banakai's flip doesn't play into your vote today at all?

[RedCoyote]

Also, if the Angel doesn't want to claim, he doesn't have to claim. I don't think it matters all that much. I don't think the Seer should claim, guilty or no. That's easy enough to figure out later down the road (if they have a guilty and are killed before they tell us). The Angel, eh, I see a slight benefit to them claiming and daring the scum to shoot them, but I can also see the advantages to not claiming, too.