Mafiascum.net

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

Ok first off. Cops defense attorneys and prosecutors all engage in a search for truth, but each has their own biases they bring to the table. That is no different than three people in any Mafia game trying to sort an alignment.

The difference is that all facts for the cop and the prosecutor are filtered through the police for the most part.

The defense attorney has the facts according to their client and the police evidence.

All parties are naturally more inclined to believe their sides. We all value evidence that is consistent more with our internal beliefs than what goes against them. I have learned to watch for such indicators in police and highlight them.

That in no way has bearing on this game. Do not dare use my job as a reason to doubtcast or townread me in a game again or I will turbo lynch you. (If you pull it today, after Klingon). K.

↑ Varsoon wrote:

@Dapper:

Not what I was going to say, but probably true.



None of the stories people tell about me can change who I really am.
I must be allowed to speak.
I'm worried about being able to do it at all.

You lost me. A man was discussing your vote and why it's bad and isn't seeing how this applies to that.

A defense attorney's business is also not based in acquittals but helping people get the best possible results based on the truth. Being honest with the client about the odds and helping them fix their lives is what I do for 90 percent of my clients.

↑ Spifflop wrote:my curiosity for who spidergwen is is literally killing me

↑ Spifflop wrote:
@spider, interested in why you think tituscum?

Well, there was the stuff I brought up earlier: How they hid behind an RVS push instead of continuing to push a stronger read. That just felt off. I really don't believe Titus gives up pursuing a serious read like that just to let her partner throw down a random vote. She's also trying to town block, which is a huge indicator of Titus-scum. Titus-scum focuses on establishing town blocks. Titus-town just tries to put the pieces of the puzzle together and straight up scum hunts. Anyone familiar with Titus should have voted her immediately after that statement. Some of the things she's pushed have been nonsensical. They were designed as traps rather than to figure those players out. It shows that she's not really scumhunting. She's also questioning the Clotilde thing, which is funny, since she ran a simlar gambit in Organic Chemistry. She should know exactly what Anen is trying to do here. And she should be getting a huge freaking townread off of him. Her confusion in the matter is fake.

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↑ Klingoncelt wrote:

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Oh Shiro beat me too it. I noticed something late. Oh well.

FOS Alchemists

Now let's lynch Elyse

Watch the FoS. You know what that did for me.

Eww...

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:I have learned to watch for such indicators in police and highlight them.

Which is making the skill relevant. Once a lady is bringing her job into a game (any game) it is become free to use. A lady did just this in a recent game we are finishing without provocation to do so, so it's now fair game to use. A man has many and more who are threatening policy lynch before. What's one more threat!

@garmr Nobody is writing me off as village idiot, as far as I understand. I just need to learn to be a little less wordy with my posts so they don't take a million and a half years to read all the way through.

Other people: feel free to correct me if above is wrong

Titus: Don't bring my job into this!

Next post: Brings another part of her job into this.

Yeah. I'm still mad at you for that post you made earlier

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

I feel like RL stuff should be off limits in terms of analysis just for the fun of the game.

When it's a relevant skill one possesses it isn't mattering where the skill is originating. That it's not being used is suspect as hell. It's relevant here and will be used.

Meta is fine, but ultimately this site is for fun, and dragging RL stuff to read people is dumb. The only thing I think will come of it is one of those long personal arguments that ends in a replace out. Games are in the end escapism to a certain extent, so dragging RL stuff just ruins the game.

Pedit: yeah that reaction is why you don't bring in RL stuff.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Garmr wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:Complete sentences with punctuation and complete thoughts please Garmr.

Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy. Eagle is scummy as hell and I want to choke the people who right him off as a village idiot and the case that has been pushed against him is something I don't agree with because town tend to not be as coherent as scum and the case is based on coherency.

Look at Celt's meta again. She is sucking D1 usually as either alignment. A man isn't saying at this point she can't be scum, just that her suck here isn't a good reason to lynch her.

As far as coherency, a man can only assume this one is speaking of him as its a man who is presenting a case. When has this one EVER seen a man presenting an incoherent case even on D1? This one is having plenty of experience, both with Jaqen and his main. A man is town in most of those games, so this one may wish to rethink this test.

It's a different kind of sucking. As town, she's much more inquisitive than here.

@SpiderGwen, I literally just helped town win a near flawless game by blocking.

Oh and I was town in Organic Chemistry.

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

I feel like RL stuff should be off limits in terms of analysis just for the fun of the game.

When it's a relevant skill one possesses it isn't mattering where the skill is originating. That it's not being used is suspect as hell. It's relevant here and will be used.

Meta is fine, but ultimately this site is for fun, and dragging RL stuff to read people is dumb. The only thing I think will come of it is one of those long personal arguments that ends in a replace out. Games are in the end escapism to a certain extent, so dragging RL stuff just ruins the game.

Pedit: yeah that reaction is why you don't bring in RL stuff.

Dismissing the skills one possesses is dumb. Hilighting when those skills aren't being used is far from dumb.

↑ itlepip wrote:
Give me 1 single post where klingon actually does something to move town forward. She hasn't pushed anyone at all this game, nor has she defended herself. How is not defending yourself town if you aren't going to scumhunt? The whole point of voting is because the reactions people give when pressured can be used to form reads.

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepip

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:A man has many and more who are threatening policy lynch before. What's one more threat!

I laughed at this after thinking of all the posts threatening to lynch you just because of how you speak.

@Gwen wanna get spiffy today? We can look at Titus tomorrow. I think she's scum right now but I should never try to build a case against someone I'm mad at unless I've had time to take a step back and think.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:I have learned to watch for such indicators in police and highlight them.

Which is making the skill relevant. Once a lady is bringing her job into a game (any game) it is become free to use. A lady did just this in a recent game we are finishing without provocation to do so, so it's now fair game to use. A man has many and more who are threatening policy lynch before. What's one more threat!

I used it in a scum PT to tell you how I think sparingly. It was meant to help your play, not as an end all be all.

You are getting lynched D2

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:

How do you know Varsoon's Flavor?

Second, God was scum in YCBA2

Has already been answered. Fucking pay attention, Scum.

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Garmr wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:Complete sentences with punctuation and complete thoughts please Garmr.

Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy. Eagle is scummy as hell and I want to choke the people who right him off as a village idiot and the case that has been pushed against him is something I don't agree with because town tend to not be as coherent as scum and the case is based on coherency.

Look at Celt's meta again. She is sucking D1 usually as either alignment. A man isn't saying at this point she can't be scum, just that her suck here isn't a good reason to lynch her.

As far as coherency, a man can only assume this one is speaking of him as its a man who is presenting a case. When has this one EVER seen a man presenting an incoherent case even on D1? This one is having plenty of experience, both with Jaqen and his main. A man is town in most of those games, so this one may wish to rethink this test.

It's a different kind of sucking. As town, she's much more inquisitive than here.

A man is disagreeing. He is seeing her throw the apathetic hands in the air as town when she is run up over halfway quickly with just as many saying they are supporting her wagon before. Again, town are ill informed D1. Especially in the first week of D1. What is this one expecting of her knowing this is who Celt is?

↑ Klingoncelt wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:
Give me 1 single post where klingon actually does something to move town forward. She hasn't pushed anyone at all this game, nor has she defended herself. How is not defending yourself town if you aren't going to scumhunt? The whole point of voting is because the reactions people give when pressured can be used to form reads.

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepip

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

Here let's try a different question. Suppose your wagon is all town, who is scum and why?

Klingon let's get spiffy for now. Get a good strong wagon going and then as we ride off into a beautiful sunset with a hammer at the end we can look back at Titus and itlepip and Elyse who are trying desperately to drag the wagon back even though it pushes ever forward?

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:Oh and I was town in Organic Chemistry.

And mislynched for D1 suck.

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ itlepip wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:It's part of it. All defense attorneys are having to face such obstacles.

I feel like RL stuff should be off limits in terms of analysis just for the fun of the game.

When it's a relevant skill one possesses it isn't mattering where the skill is originating. That it's not being used is suspect as hell. It's relevant here and will be used.

Meta is fine, but ultimately this site is for fun, and dragging RL stuff to read people is dumb. The only thing I think will come of it is one of those long personal arguments that ends in a replace out. Games are in the end escapism to a certain extent, so dragging RL stuff just ruins the game.

Pedit: yeah that reaction is why you don't bring in RL stuff.

Dismissing the skills one possesses is dumb. Hilighting when those skills aren't being used is far from dumb.

There are 2 arguments here 1 is about whether or not RL stuff can optimize play, and the other (more important 1) is if it ruins the game. If it ruins the game, no matter how useful it might be, drop it. I don't think it actually is a good read anyway, but the fact is that the reaction you are going to get from most people is defensive and upset. The only thing this does for me is make me for reluctant to talk about personal stuff here if it is going to be used against me later by people like you. In the end it is only 1 game and whatever small read you have doesn't matter, so don't start this stuff.

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:
This address Spider too in her lynch me post. My best town games come from blocking out the scum.

↑ Aneninen wrote:
Haven't you played with Titus before?

I have. Why do you think I want to lynch her?

As for Clotilde, if you want to target me that's fine. It's a wasted shot, but whatever.

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:
Here let's try a different question. Suppose your wagon is all town, who is scum and why?

Can I ask you a question?

Same scenario. Except this time we're assuming she's town. Is it likely her wagon is made entirely up of town?

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:

↑ Garmr wrote:

↑ Dapper Stranger wrote:Complete sentences with punctuation and complete thoughts please Garmr.

Ok in short I had a scum read previously on kling Because even through the case on her originally was pretty weak. She panicked and flailed which I never seen a town kling do before. Also a town kling would be more involved as town she's pretty bad at scum and that's what I am seeing here.

Also I don't like the wagon that has built up spiffy. Eagle is scummy as hell and I want to choke the people who right him off as a village idiot and the case that has been pushed against him is something I don't agree with because town tend to not be as coherent as scum and the case is based on coherency.

Look at Celt's meta again. She is sucking D1 usually as either alignment. A man isn't saying at this point she can't be scum, just that her suck here isn't a good reason to lynch her.

As far as coherency, a man can only assume this one is speaking of him as its a man who is presenting a case. When has this one EVER seen a man presenting an incoherent case even on D1? This one is having plenty of experience, both with Jaqen and his main. A man is town in most of those games, so this one may wish to rethink this test.

It's a different kind of sucking. As town, she's much more inquisitive than here.

A man is disagreeing. He is seeing her throw the apathetic hands in the air as town when she is run up over halfway quickly with just as many saying they are supporting her wagon before. Again, town are ill informed D1. Especially in the first week of D1. What is this one expecting of her knowing this is who Celt is?

Her to pick apart posts not involving her and ask questions.

↑ Extrapolated Eagle wrote:

↑ Passionate Storm wrote:
Here let's try a different question. Suppose your wagon is all town, who is scum and why?

Can I ask you a question?

Same scenario. Except this time we're assuming she's town. Is it likely her wagon is made entirely up of town?

Yes.

↑ Elyse wrote:

↑ Randomnamechange wrote:@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

Major points to Elyse.