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he says give him until tomorrow.

I'll hold him to that.

Votecount 3.5

Persivul

(1) - Seiko x Naomi

(L-1!)

The Oxford Bubbles

(2) - Syryana, Aj The Epic

(L-1!)

Not Voting

(3) - Persivul, Ultralisk, The Oxford Bubbles

With

5

players eligible to vote, it’s

3

to lynch!

Day 3 will end in

(expired on 2017-02-14 08:21:03).

Mod Notes:

None!

In post 1049, Syryana wrote:On second thought as we're pretty much at an impasse here I'm going to give notty 24 hours to catch up/post his thoughts then I'll hammer Persi.

This works since you're the governor.

What?

You're obviously not going to hammer me, then govern me, so I'm cool with you being the hammer.

In post 1047, Seiko x Naomi wrote:I don't think any of this is anywhere near as much of a tell as shit like Persi straight up trying to oversell his double-vote as a "confirmed town" role back on D1, which has a hell of a lot more scum motivation than this

Are you scum? I'm having difficulty believing town could be this bad.

We have days. Raven, SxN all need to catch up and participate.

Extending my hammer deadline until tomorrow because fuckit

I'm caught up.

In post 1045, Aj The Epic wrote:VOTE: TOB

What's the reason behind this vote?

~ Raven

Your claim makes the least sense, Dunn has gone after Syr fairly hard and wanted to lynch OA for some non-factor response to a prod.

I am here now.

In post 253, Dunnstral wrote:Kind of awkward

And I can't tell what posts are from pieguy and what from notscience, but it seems like they're all pieguy? (Correct me if I'm wrong)

I've got a theory that the more lopsided a hydra's posting habits, the more likely they are to be scum

This still bothers me.

(I'm reading him+syry iso'd together)

I could maybe see there being an early bus type thing where dunn distances with a light scumread and syry engages and then his reasoning magically fits dunn's role perfectly (ie syry explained it as why are you telling people who to wagon without voting yourself only for dunn to have the perfect explanation for it after) but that just seems too... cohesive? Like the flow was just TOO perfect to be scum?

Like if they were scum together why would he use that as a point to push him

Then he changed his vote to us re:my lying thing

mmm

Still looking. I can kinda see weird interactions but I still don't think syry's scum.

In post 313, Syryana wrote:Dunnstral (this one is stagnating a little too but not as much as charleyhorse)

why is this a townread

In post 375, Syryana wrote:So the takeaway from this is I'm really interested to hear what Dunn has to say on S_S and AJ. I also think this wagon is town driven/motivated. This basically leaves me entertaining the idea that AJ may be town. Jury's still out on OA; I think that jump reasoning is shitawful.

Why call out a teammate like this

In post 516, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 510, Syryana wrote:I'm not this good at scum

Huh? but you haven't done anything

I feel like if Syry is scum I will see this post in my nightmares.

In post 870, Dunnstral wrote:I think that town's best interest knowing I'm scum is just to look for my partners instead, as you guys can lynch me any time you want, and it would be nice having a frame of reference

Then this shit

Like I could see an argument for them being scum together. And I can feel my inner confbias too so I'm trying to ignore it but I've been really confident about this read all game and I really don't think I'm wrong but this could just be the confbias talking

But if they are scum together with the interactions they had why would dunn even bring up looking for partners unless he was confident in his associatives and if associatives are making me think syr might be scum and confscum wanted us to look for partners then maybe associatives are a dead end

I'm going to refresh myself on what bork's points were and try to see his PoV

But if associatives are supposed to be a dead end then what the fuck was that bullshit between dunn and persivul after he was confirmed scum

As well as persivul being the one who hammered him making sure he got towncred

and the last second "oh why would scum haterize his partner when he was confscum"

It could have been a desperate move by scum who was cornered?

I need time to think and talk to pie. I kinda had a long weekend (I work at *insert sports bar franchise* and last weekend was *insert biggest sports event of the year*) so this is the first I've had a minute to think.

bc atm I'm caught in this sea of wifom and confbias and I need to not be <_>

In post 1067, Seiko x Naomi wrote:bc atm I'm caught in this sea of wifom and confbias and I need to not be <_>

So what else is new.

In post 1059, The Oxford Bubbles wrote:I'm caught up.

In post 1045, Aj The Epic wrote:VOTE: TOB

What's the reason behind this vote?

~ Raven

You're all caught up, and that's all you have to say?

In post 1066, Seiko x Naomi wrote:I need time to think and talk to pie. I kinda had a long weekend (I work at *insert sports bar franchise* and last weekend was *insert biggest sports event of the year*) so this is the first I've had a minute to think.

"I work at Hooters and last weekend was The Dafabet Masters Snooker Finals"

In post 1060, Aj The Epic wrote:Your claim makes the least sense, Dunn has gone after Syr fairly hard and wanted to lynch OA for some non-factor response to a prod.

Why does our claim make the least sense?

In post 1069, Persivul wrote:You're all caught up, and that's all you have to say?

Yes. I don't see anything else I can comment on. My reads haven't changed. If you disagree with something I've said, let me know.

~ Raven

In post 1071, The Oxford Bubbles wrote:

In post 1060, Aj The Epic wrote:Your claim makes the least sense, Dunn has gone after Syr fairly hard and wanted to lynch OA for some non-factor response to a prod.

Why does our claim make the least sense?

In post 1069, Persivul wrote:You're all caught up, and that's all you have to say?

Yes. I don't see anything else I can comment on. My reads haven't changed. If you disagree with something I've said, let me know.

~ Raven

We already have a basic "odd night doctor" who if they paired with you, would make you fully immune to nightkills by your claim. There's 1xpublic cop and a strong reporter (2x results per action) AND a 1 x flavor cop. All of these are fairly weak (don't equal the power of an actual cop) but have pretty good signaling with each other through Bork's role. Governor is needed to balance hated+double vote issues, and that combination is too disgusting for scum to have in tandem imo. Having Scum Governor + scum hated invalidates town lynching super hard because Dunn could hide power and no way on earth would we figure out WHY someone was becoming hated. +Gambits are pretty strong that way.

In post 1072, Aj The Epic wrote:We already have a basic "odd night doctor" who if they paired with you, would make you fully immune to nightkills by your claim. There's 1xpublic cop and a strong reporter (2x results per action) AND a 1 x flavor cop. All of these are fairly weak (don't equal the power of an actual cop) but have pretty good signaling with each other through Bork's role. Governor is needed to balance hated+double vote issues, and that combination is too disgusting for scum to have in tandem imo. Having Scum Governor + scum hated invalidates town lynching super hard because Dunn could hide power and no way on earth would we figure out WHY someone was becoming hated. +Gambits are pretty strong that way.

I don't understand how this affects our role. What's the purpose of your own role in this set-up?

~ Raven

It's an effective VT without being a VT. It also serves to neutralize power in Bork's tracking.