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Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 10:49 am
by Sugar Cain
In post 1021, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1020, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1018, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@EeveeLution Army , please save Sugar tonight.
why? I doubt theyre getting killed
Sugar, is your vig ability affected by how you die? Or is it irrelevant?

Because then Eevee needs to protect someone else.
It's irrelevant. I just need to be dead. Eevee shouldn't even touch me if I end up living

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 10:57 am
by Ankamius
In post 998, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 982, Ankamius wrote:See, this is why I say to ignore the zombie.

It's true that having a confirmed scum on a wagon means that it's less town-driven, but the way it's done is also too blatantly obvious that it's the case which means scum are more likely to be doing it to try to derail a wagon... but if scum are trying to derail the wagon, doesn't that make brass most likely scum? But then if brass is scum, aren't there better uses for the vote that are more likely to succeed? So therefore brass is more likely town... etc.

It's an endless loop no matter where you start because you can always find something to 'disprove' whichever assumption you're at in the chain.

I think scum did it primarily to cause WIFOM. Why would scum want to create WIFOM now? That's hard to determine at this point in the game since we don't have enough information to go on for a reasonable analysis, so it's pointless to analyze the zombie vote right now.

The best way town can use the zombie is to dismiss it entirely. Letting the zombie influence wagons and thoughts is letting
scum
determine the game state.
But they create WIFOM in order to further their agenda.

Mafia doesn’t want us to lynch brass, which is exactly why we should, is my point. It’s all about the timing of the vote. If HZ had hammered, it would mean the exact opposite.

BUT THEY WANTED To KILL This WAGON. Why would you want to ignore that?
This is the type of info that's more useful when we have a much better idea of what scum's plan was today. It's a shot in the dark today.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:07 am
by Ankamius
In post 1025, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1016, Ankamius wrote:
In post 256, Beefster wrote:On post , Eeveelution Army was hammered.

Official Vote Count 1-FINAL
EeveeLution Army
(7): Eddie Cane, Wisdom, the worst, Kokichi Oma, Nancy Drew 39, ,
(LYNCHED)

Papa Zito
(2): Tywin Lannister, brassherald
Nancy Drew 39
(1): ActionDan
Kokichi Oma
(1): Papa Zito

Not Voting
(2): MechaGoomba, EeveeLution Army

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.



That was the fastest D1 I've ever seen.
Interesting, brass was on the Zito wagon? What do you make of this?
The interesting thing to me is that he voted Zito, then stated later after being asked that Eevee (now L-2) was scummy too. I don't think the act itself was suspicious at all since L-1 is a big deal for a wagon and I don't really blame him for choosing another POI to vote, but the way he went about it subtly changes the most likely motivation behind it from "vote on somebody else but on eevee in spirit" to "idk if I should put eevee at L-1 so I'll join this new wagon while keeping my options open."

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:10 am
by Ankamius
Wisdom:
In post 951, Ankamius wrote:
In post 941, Wisdom wrote:
In post 939, Ankamius wrote:Can you show me what you mean Wisdom?
about what
Tywin playing like this in other games.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:08 pm
by Beefster
Something broke my vote counter. Stand by while I debug.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:16 pm
by Srceenplay
In post 1021, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Because then Eevee needs to protect someone else.
@MOD: Theoretical question. If someone dies but they still have abilities after death do they lose those abilities if they are turned into a zombie?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:16 pm
by Srceenplay
In post 1055, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1021, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Because then Eevee needs to protect someone else.
@MOD: Theoretical question. If someone dies but they still have abilities after death do they lose those abilities if they are turned into a zombie?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:19 pm
by Beefster
As it turns out, I didn't account for the edge case where everyone has a vote somewhere. I guess that never came up the last time I modded.

Official Vote Count 2-12
Tywin Lannister
(4): havingfitz, , ,
brassherald
(3): Wisdom, Harmless Zombie,
havingfitz
(2): Kokichi Oma, brassherald
Ankamius
(2): Tywin Lannister,
Eddie Cane
(1): ActionDan
Sugar Cain
(1):

Not Voting
(0):

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2018-05-09 18:15:00)

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:26 pm
by Harmless Zombie
VOTE: Tywin Lancaster

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:27 pm
by Srceenplay
The winfom.
Lol

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:28 pm
by Ankamius
UNVOTE: Tywin Lannister

Just in case.

I am waiting for havingfitz, but I also want to get an updated readslist out and that requires sorting Tywin's case to see if Wisdom's right or not.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:38 pm
by Srceenplay
Sure. You do you and I’ll do me.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:48 pm
by Ankamius
@Mod: Prod ActionDan please

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:44 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 1056, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1055, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1021, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Because then Eevee needs to protect someone else.
@MOD: Theoretical question. If someone dies but they still have abilities after death do they lose those abilities if they are turned into a zombie?
Excellent question.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:48 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 1063, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1056, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1055, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1021, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Because then Eevee needs to protect someone else.
@MOD: Theoretical question. If someone dies but they still have abilities after death do they lose those abilities if they are turned into a zombie?
Excellent question.
@Beefster

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:50 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 1058, Harmless Zombie wrote:VOTE: Tywin Lancaster
Who is town, amirite?


Yes, I know HZ can’t answer. I didn’t make this post for their benefit.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:52 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 1052, Ankamius wrote:
In post 1025, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1016, Ankamius wrote:
In post 256, Beefster wrote:On post , Eeveelution Army was hammered.

Official Vote Count 1-FINAL
EeveeLution Army
(7): Eddie Cane, Wisdom, the worst, Kokichi Oma, Nancy Drew 39, ,
(LYNCHED)

Papa Zito
(2): Tywin Lannister, brassherald
Nancy Drew 39
(1): ActionDan
Kokichi Oma
(1): Papa Zito

Not Voting
(2): MechaGoomba, EeveeLution Army

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.



That was the fastest D1 I've ever seen.
Interesting, brass was on the Zito wagon? What do you make of this?
The interesting thing to me is that he voted Zito, then stated later after being asked that Eevee (now L-2) was scummy too. I don't think the act itself was suspicious at all since L-1 is a big deal for a wagon and I don't really blame him for choosing another POI to vote, but the way he went about it subtly changes the most likely motivation behind it from "vote on somebody else but on eevee in spirit" to "idk if I should put eevee at L-1 so I'll join this new wagon while keeping my options open."
Thanks, I’m really liking your recent reads.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 5:54 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 1050, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 1021, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1020, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1018, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@EeveeLution Army , please save Sugar tonight.
why? I doubt theyre getting killed
Sugar, is your vig ability affected by how you die? Or is it irrelevant?

Because then Eevee needs to protect someone else.
It's irrelevant. I just need to be dead. Eevee shouldn't even touch me if I end up living
Do you still want to kill me?

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 6:06 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 1047, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 1015, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1003, Sugar Cain wrote:The timing is so obviously made that the first conclusion town would come to is your conclusion that they thought it could be user to frame brass
But that isn’t what I think. I think they A) wanted to shade villas: the worst, ank, Wisdom and B) make everyone think that brass has to be locktown and make sure that he gets to Lylo and town mislynches, thinking he’s the IC.

If town sheeps me, they will likely do the opposite d3, but if town ignores me, they are far more likely to repeat this, IMO.
This is why I wanna kill you. Why is your opinion the only opinion that matters. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE already sees that point but just because this is a valid point doesn't mean the one made by ank or myself any less
You’re unfairly mischaracterizing me. Vigging me for having an opinion you dislike is anti-town. I have a right to hold a different opinion. If you’re going to continue to bully me in this way, then I don’t want to be in this game any longer.

:cry:

Just say the word, you don’t have to vig me. I don’t need this in my life rn.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 12:53 am
by Kokichi Oma
Why are people voting tywin

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:02 am
by Wisdom
because his posts are bad

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:23 am
by havingfitz
In post 1060, Ankamius wrote:I am waiting for havingfitz
Sorry for the delay. I'm about ten pages in with a cup of coffee and catching up this morning.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 3:54 am
by Beefster
Prodding ActionDan


Sorry for not being on top of things. I'm at a weird point in my life right now.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:19 am
by Srceenplay
Take care of yourself first Beefster.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2018 4:32 am
by havingfitz
Page 2 and not liking Nancy so far. As several others seemed to be like-minded about.



Not caring for Kokichi Oma's vote on Evee or the quest for others' reasons
after they (KO) had already voted Evee.

Tywin gets an A for effort for his pushing of Papa Zito. He's wrong, intentionally or not, but he's displaying quite the imagination either way.

...for the most part. Think I may be tr'ing Tywin. And minus the

Not a fan of Srceen's

What is Also agree with subsequent comments that this is a town post. ND can be town.

I think Ankamius is town too.

PZ explained his lack of transparency. And why when there has been a flip and new content does a D2 read/vote have to mirror a D1 read/vote?

mind if we test the lynch proof bit?



tl the worst



Done. Phuck.

OK....

Here are my reads:
Wisdom - town
Kokichi Oma - scum
Nancy Drew - town
Ankamius - town
Sugar Cain - thought was scum but mulling over kill to enable vig claim...rethinking they're town
brassherald - scum lean. I think the Zombie vote was wifom to remove votes.
Eddie Cane - idk.
Srceenplay - idk. Playing different this game. Not a fan of it. But not AI'ing his playstyle.....bleh.
the worst - lean town.
ActionDan - idk.
Tywin Lannister - town lean.

VOTE: Kokichi

I'll switch to Brass if that wagon winds up more viable.