It's true that having a confirmed scum on a wagon means that it's less town-driven, but the way it's done is also too blatantly obvious that it's the case which means scum are more likely to be doing it to try to derail a wagon... but if scum are trying to derail the wagon, doesn't that make brass most likely scum? But then if brass is scum, aren't there better uses for the vote that are more likely to succeed? So therefore brass is more likely town... etc.
It's an endless loop no matter where you start because you can always find something to 'disprove' whichever assumption you're at in the chain.
I think scum did it primarily to cause WIFOM. Why would scum want to create WIFOM now? That's hard to determine at this point in the game since we don't have enough information to go on for a reasonable analysis, so it's pointless to analyze the zombie vote right now.
The best way town can use the zombie is to dismiss it entirely. Letting the zombie influence wagons and thoughts is letting
scum
determine the game state.
But they create WIFOM in order to further their agenda.
Mafia doesn’t want us to lynch brass, which is exactly why we should, is my point. It’s all about the timing of the vote. If HZ had hammered, it would mean the exact opposite.
BUT THEY WANTED To KILL This WAGON. Why would you want to ignore that?
This is the type of info that's more useful when we have a much better idea of what scum's plan was today. It's a shot in the dark today.
Interesting, brass was on the Zito wagon? What do you make of this?
The interesting thing to me is that he voted Zito, then stated later after being asked that Eevee (now L-2) was scummy too. I don't think the act itself was suspicious at all since L-1 is a big deal for a wagon and I don't really blame him for choosing another POI to vote, but the way he went about it subtly changes the most likely motivation behind it from "vote on somebody else but on eevee in spirit" to "idk if I should put eevee at L-1 so I'll join this new wagon while keeping my options open."
Interesting, brass was on the Zito wagon? What do you make of this?
The interesting thing to me is that he voted Zito, then stated later after being asked that Eevee (now L-2) was scummy too. I don't think the act itself was suspicious at all since L-1 is a big deal for a wagon and I don't really blame him for choosing another POI to vote, but the way he went about it subtly changes the most likely motivation behind it from "vote on somebody else but on eevee in spirit" to "idk if I should put eevee at L-1 so I'll join this new wagon while keeping my options open."
In post 1003, Sugar Cain wrote:The timing is so obviously made that the first conclusion town would come to is your conclusion that they thought it could be user to frame brass
But that isn’t what I think. I think they A) wanted to shade villas: the worst, ank, Wisdom and B) make everyone think that brass has to be locktown and make sure that he gets to Lylo and town mislynches, thinking he’s the IC.
If town sheeps me, they will likely do the opposite d3, but if town ignores me, they are far more likely to repeat this, IMO.
This is why I wanna kill you. Why is your opinion the only opinion that matters. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE already sees that point but just because this is a valid point doesn't mean the one made by ank or myself any less
You’re unfairly mischaracterizing me. Vigging me for having an opinion you dislike is anti-town. I have a right to hold a different opinion. If you’re going to continue to bully me in this way, then I don’t want to be in this game any longer.
Just say the word, you don’t have to vig me. I don’t need this in my life rn.
Here are my reads:
Wisdom - town
Kokichi Oma - scum
Nancy Drew - town
Ankamius - town
Sugar Cain - thought was scum but mulling over kill to enable vig claim...rethinking they're town
brassherald - scum lean. I think the Zombie vote was wifom to remove votes.
Eddie Cane - idk.
Srceenplay - idk. Playing different this game. Not a fan of it. But not AI'ing his playstyle.....bleh.
the worst - lean town.
ActionDan - idk.
Tywin Lannister - town lean.
VOTE: Kokichi
I'll switch to Brass if that wagon winds up more viable.