Open 731: Twin Trap (Game Over)

[Wh4t]

the unlikely (they shoot me instead of you),

Why is it more likely that scum would shoot me over you?

[BuJaber]

Tor gave up and claimed scum. That's why A50's plan works.

You don't need a flip to believe me.

Under normal circumstances yes we'd have to go for the normal lynch and confirm my allignment.

Anyway we can lynch Tor if you want. It makes little difference.

[Wh4t]

Tor gave up and claimed scum. That's why A50's plan works.

You don't need a flip to believe me.

Under normal circumstances yes we'd have to go for the normal lynch and confirm my allignment.

Anyway we can lynch Tor if you want. It makes little difference.

I'm pretty certain you're the tracker. My point was that how is it the best plan for town. For all we know A50 is scum trying to leverage his team out of a loss.

If Pose is town we're at lylo tomorrow and A50 says he's sure Pose is scum but keeps planning for us to be at lylo tomorrow. I mean I know I'm being paranoid but you have to admit it's a possibility, so the best play albeit boring play, is to lynch Tor today and be certain of the final two suspects. It'd be great if everyone could say their lynch preferences with reason rather than leaving it up to whomever is at Lylo.

[BuJaber]

Pos > egg > burger

Main reason being I really don't think burger is scum. Maybe I'm being fooled by him but I just don't see the scum motivation in most of his posts.

[Egg]

Egg when you're on can you please confirm that you do not CC the tracker claim?

Yeah I'm not counter claiming anyone.

kinda scummy of egg to not even show up

I work 16 hour days regardless of my alignment in mafia games

[Toranaga]

Tor gave up and claimed scum. That's why A50's plan works.

You don't need a flip to believe me.

Under normal circumstances yes we'd have to go for the normal lynch and confirm my allignment.

Anyway we can lynch Tor if you want. It makes little difference.

manatee was scum and replaced out instead of playing out when all his posting was terrible and he was getting heat

kind of annoying tbh

[Almost50]

I just don't see the advantage to risking a mislynch today? I mean if we lynch Tor then we confirm 100% Bu is town, we have more townies to help narrow down the scumteam, and we have the comfort of a mislynch tomorrow.

It may be more fun to play in the less optimal way you propose but we'd be tilting the advantage in scum's favour and I would hate to become so overconfident in my reads that I gamble away the inevitable victory we would've had by playing traditionally.

My extreme paranoia of you is saying that it is still possible you're scum with Tor, and you are tilting the odds in your favour (by keeping town in Lylo) because it is unlikely you will be lynched if you dictate the play today.

I understand your paranoia and have come to accept it. No problem.

The advantage of lynching Poseidon (not a mislynch) is keeping BuJaber alive for one more day. Scum killing him = mod-confirming Tor as scum before his flip. Plain and simple.

[Almost50]

the unlikely (they shoot me instead of you),

Why is it more likely that scum would shoot me over you?

Because you're townier than I am. No one's gonna lynch you. Remember this was assuming we lynch Poseidon and he flips green, so Tor is still in the game and he has spewed you town already, but is keeping me under suspicion. That and the fact I'm the one who came up with the idea of lynching Poseidon over Tor to begin with, so if he flips green I'm very much in contention for the lynch. I was also responsible for the mislynch of Eragon.. so everything points to you being a stronger TR than I am to everyone.

[Almost50]

Tor gave up and claimed scum. That's why A50's plan works.

You don't need a flip to believe me.

Under normal circumstances yes we'd have to go for the normal lynch and confirm my allignment.

Anyway we can lynch Tor if you want. It makes little difference.

manatee was scum and replaced out instead of playing out when all his posting was terrible and he was getting heat

kind of annoying tbh

Well, first: Thanks for replacing in despite that fact.
Second: You did pretty well with your AtE and managed to sway the lynch off you, albeit for one day, so you did well.
Third: Win or lose, the point is to have fun with good company. My priority is to have fun over winning (but of course I play to win, or there will be no fun if I don't try), which is why I wanted to lynch Poseidon today. It'd be much more fun to lynch "not caught scum: over the guiltied one. It also messes with Wh4t's mind and her reads on me in future games, so that's a plus (of course it messes with everyone else's minds, nut considering Wh4t is the one who almost NEVER TRs me the effect is greater there.)

[Almost50]

@Wh4t: I'm fine lynching Tor anytime you want to.

[Wh4t]

Fine let's lynch Pose.

VOTE: Poseidon

[Almost50]

VOTE: Poseidon

[LastManStanding]

Votecount 2.3

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Almost50

(1): Toranaga

Toranaga

(1): BuJaber

Poseidon

(2): Almost50, Wh4t

Not Voting

(3): Egg, Poseidon, GameNBurger

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-08-28 08:00:00)

[Toranaga]

VOTE: poseidon

[Poseidon]

Whatever
VOTE: Poseidon

[Toranaga]

oh well

I thought waiting to see if my vote influenced anything reads wise would be alright but sure

just a formality at this point but I concede

[GameNBurger]

Well done everyone

Buj that was a textbook example of perfect PR play

Good job all around everyone, basically carried my ass to victory

The manatee wagon was an unfortunate starting point for Tor

I’d snap out of gamesoeak to congratulate everyone and thank them for playing so kind

But I’m phoneposting once again so I don’t have the time to tone correctly

I’ll probably write a more formal thank you post and discuss the game more when I get home

[Wh4t]

What? The game isn't over bro.

[Toranaga]

yes it is

[Wh4t]

Oh...nice! Great read A50.

[Wh4t]

Well played BuJaber and A50. Joint MVP?

[BuJaber]

Fromage didn't fully claim. Meant they had to send watch-immune.
If he claimed they'd know to send track-immune. If he were tracker and claimed they'd send watch-immune etc.

Swingy setup for sure. If both PRs live and 1 goon dies it's almost an auto win for town, but it is very easy for the game to end up basically mountainous in which case it swings heavily in scum's favor. That's because 1 PR alone can never get an inno unless the only living goon is the one that isn't immune to them but I think that would rarely happen.

[Wh4t]

I'm going to let you answer your own question there pal. I
Here's my updated reads based on recent interactions:

{A50, BuJaber, Eragon, GnB}
{Fromage, Egg}
{Toranaga, Poseidon}

Pretty happy with the L-1 and ready to see a flip but I would like to hear Tor's efforting before someone hammers.

I wish I backed myself more. AtE works way too well on me. Something to improve on.

[LastManStanding]

Votecount 2.4

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Toranaga

(1): BuJaber

Poseidon

(4): Almost50, Wh4t, Toranaga, Poseidon

(<- LYNCH)

Not Voting

(2): Egg, GameNBurger

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-08-28 08:00:00)

[LastManStanding]

DAY 2 LYNCH

Poseidon,

Track-Immune Mafia Goon

, was lynched Day 2.

Night 2 begins now and ends in (expired on 2018-08-20 06:00:00).

If all players who have night actions agree to, we can have a shorter night.