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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:01 pm
by Persivul
Plot twist: I was blocked last night.
VOTE: sash

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:55 am
by Sashaddin
Who did you target?

Why is this a twist? What did you think would happen?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:13 am
by Persivul
In post 1051, Sashaddin wrote:Who did you target?
That info isn't free.
Why is this a twist? What did you think would happen?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:33 am
by Irrelephant11
dumb

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:39 am
by Sashaddin
What is?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:40 am
by Sashaddin
In post 967, Persivul wrote:It should resolve tomorrow. Unless scum have a RB, they have to kill me tonight. If garmr's a scum MD, it's doubtful they also have a RB.
It was doubtful to you, yet you predicted what happened. What is there to think about this?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:43 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 1054, Sashaddin wrote:
What is?
In post 1050, Persivul wrote:Plot twist: I was blocked last night.
VOTE: sash

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:47 am
by Sashaddin
In post 1052, Persivul wrote:That info isn't free.
What do you want, need... and from whom?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:03 am
by Persivul
In post 1057, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 1052, Persivul wrote:That info isn't free.
What do you want, need... and from whom?
Claims, preferably in the order:

Sash
Irrel
Clem
bji

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:05 am
by Persivul
In post 1055, Sashaddin wrote:
In post 967, Persivul wrote:It should resolve tomorrow. Unless scum have a RB, they have to kill me tonight. If garmr's a scum MD, it's doubtful they also have a RB.
It was doubtful to you, yet you predicted what happened. What is there to think about this?
No, the opposite of what I said happened. Hence, twist.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:30 am
by Persivul
@Irrel - trial balloons are scummy af.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:32 am
by Irrelephant11
I don't know what that sentence means
I'm happy to claim in that order

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:36 am
by bji
Persivul, why would Sash kill Reaper instead of you? Even if he were roleblocker, I think your level of play is higher than everyone else's here so I would expect Sash to want to get rid of you instead of a player (Reaper) who wasn't really contributing anything to town's chances of winning other than being a warm body.

Furthermore, you are I were both agreeing to vote Sash today. So Sash could predict that he would already have two firm votes today, and only needing one more to be lynched, it seems that his only hope would be to eliminate you and hope that two other town besides me wouldn't vote him.

Additionally, your elimination was expected and so wouldn't really give much info about who the scum was.

The question then becomes, is Sash really ballsy enough to count on the above conclusions and do the opposite to throw us off his track? No offense Sash, but I don't think so.

In my opinion scum is either Clem or Irrelephant.

I need to read more to see which player was more likely to kill Reaper than you. Again, busy with work, not sure when I will be able to do this, probably tonight.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:43 am
by Sashaddin
In post 1058, Persivul wrote:Claims, preferably in the order:

Sash
Irrel
Clem
bji
I claim to be a normal towny. I probably won't be able to post until tonight. I really want to hear about the others too.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:44 am
by Irrelephant11
I think we resolve claims before entering the wifom-territory of "why is persivul alive"

pedit: assuming that means vt, I am also vt. I tried crumbing that I was minor investigative to eat a nightkill, but that failed

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:47 am
by Sashaddin
In post 1062, bji wrote:Furthermore, you are I were both agreeing to vote Sash today. So Sash could predict that he would already have two firm votes today, and only needing one more to be lynched, it seems that his only hope would be to eliminate you and hope that two other town besides me wouldn't vote him.

Additionally, your elimination was expected and so wouldn't really give much info about who the scum was.

The question then becomes, is Sash really ballsy enough to count on the above conclusions and do the opposite to throw us off his track? No offense Sash, but I don't think so.
Putting on my scum pants, this is what I probably would have done. I agree with you, getting rid of the most vocal one sounds strategic.

Ballsy? No offense taken. I never claimed to be good at this.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:51 am
by Irrelephant11
In post 1062, bji wrote:Persivul, why would Sash kill Reaper instead of you? Even if he were roleblocker, I think your level of play is higher than everyone else's here so I would expect Sash to want to get rid of you instead of a player (Reaper) who wasn't really contributing anything to town's chances of winning other than being a warm body.
btw the answer to this question, regardless of who's scum, is that reaper was towncleared, whereas persivul was not (reaper only confirmed he was visited). Theoretically persivul could still be scum, so anyone else as scum has a greater chance of mislynching persivul here than mislynching reaper

garmr might have chosen the nightkill, too, scum have daychat
I stand by my assertion that this gamestate is dumb, though I guess I should be happier with one scum flip than I am

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:53 am
by Sashaddin
In post 1064, Irrelephant11 wrote:I tried crumbing that I was minor investigative to eat a nightkill, but that failed
Is it something you try often?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:56 am
by Irrelephant11
I've tried it one other time recently, in a newbie game. It didn't work there either

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:57 am
by Irrelephant11
fwiw I am townreading sash's more recent posts, even as I stand by my analysis of his early game & Garmr interactions

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:58 am
by Persivul
In post 1061, Irrelephant11 wrote:I don't know what that sentence means
It means that, instead of making a point with your first two posts today, you were purposely vague - floating a trial balloon to see if someone might guess at your point and take it up. If no one does, you just let it die.
UNVOTE:

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:01 am
by Irrelephant11
??
I was literally just expressing frustration at the fact that your status as semi-conf!town was removed & the implication scum has a pr. That's dumb, and I don't like it. There was nothing to "bite" because "dumb" implies.. nothing? that I can think of

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:07 am
by Persivul
In post 1062, bji wrote:Persivul, why would Sash kill Reaper instead of you? Even if he were roleblocker, I think your level of play is higher than everyone else's here so I would expect Sash to want to get rid of you instead of a player (Reaper) who wasn't really contributing anything to town's chances of winning other than being a warm body.

Furthermore, you are I were both agreeing to vote Sash today. So Sash could predict that he would already have two firm votes today, and only needing one more to be lynched, it seems that his only hope would be to eliminate you and hope that two other town besides me wouldn't vote him.

Additionally, your elimination was expected and so wouldn't really give much info about who the scum was.

The question then becomes, is Sash really ballsy enough to count on the above conclusions and do the opposite to throw us off his track? No offense Sash, but I don't think so.
I largely agree with this. I didn't necessarily vote Sash because he's still my top scum read. But, two considerations:

- Garmr may have given NK instructions in scum chat. A point interestingly made by Irrel.
- A lot of scum are too fond of wifom in NK selection.

But yeah, I largely agree with you.
In my opinion scum is either Clem or Irrelephant.

I need to read more to see which player was more likely to kill Reaper than you. Again, busy with work, not sure when I will be able to do this, probably tonight.
I also need to do some re-reading and meta reading, but rn I'd say Irrel is more likely than Clem.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:09 am
by Persivul
Clem, your turn to claim.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:09 am
by Irrelephant11
I guess I have to consider that Persivul's continual shade-throwing in my direction could potentially come from scum trying to save the easier mislynch for lylo