In post 1055, OkaPoka wrote:exactly my point?
its rvs so thats where he can crumb without it looking strange
Okay, but here's my point.
Your explanations for why it was crumbs was
he's trying to say i know you are scum but he covers it with the fact its rvs and he is using the "wow" and "imo"
and
that way it doesn't look weird when he doesnt push u ever again
Your first statement disproves the second one, as it wouldn't look weird to not push an rvs push again as it is not a real push. If you look at any RVS vote I doubt more than random amounts would continue pushing them later on.
"wow" and "imo" have been used site-wide by him, since before this game started, because he lost a bet. This is not relevant and easily verifiable. If you can't find the bet, go look at his other games that had posting at the same time and this one and he used this there too.
You're using your preconceived notions to find the conclusion that works for you, otherwise known around here as "confbias". Yes, if I am scum, rb's posts could be seen as crumbs because he outright calls me scum and then doesn't push me. However, if I am town (which I am), then they aren't crumbs and its simply a random RVS vote, and rb simply didn't push me because I didn't look like an easy push compared to the multitude of awful lynchbait slots in this playerlist (see: Vorkuta, Fish, YYotta, DDL). You're assuming he crumbed, which he may not have which is what led to his being killed, and if he did then these are not them.
To be
100% honest
I can see how those look like crumbs, and if I was scum looking for a traitor I probably would agree with you. Unfortunately, I'm not scum, which means they aren't crumbs. You're falling down the very common path of fucking up after a traitor death. Like, I legitimately see how those could be seen as crumbs, but they aren't.
Additionally. If I'm scum in your mind, I need to have a partner other than Nero Cain, because rb pretty clearly townread me and Nero Cain. A scum team would not kill a low impact player townreading both of them, regardless of any "wifom". I don't think this is disputable. Though, this isn't really relevant because I don't think Nero Cain is scum.
Now, I'm going to do this.
VOTE: Suka
I believe this is more likely to flip scum than Fish. I do not believe Vorkuta is scum any longer. I still believe Nero Cain is most likely town as of now. Fish could easily be scum, but I think he fits into the terrible town category. Honestly, I kind of suspect you, but I'm going to write that off for now as I townread you before end of day yesterday and I'll trust past mbaki.
To be quite honest I know I should be nicer to fish, but everything he posts agitates the hell out of me and I really hate playing with newbies which is why I avoid the queue and often this site. I'm going to try to just avoid him and be friendly in the inevitable interactions we have. His confidence and arrogance around me actually do ring mildly townie, though I'll look like a doofus if I'm wrong here. I am going to make an active effort to just brush him off, including how I know he's going to reply to this post with "AtE" and keep tunneling me.
As for why Suka is more likely to flip scum? It is predicated off of Vorkuta being town. I believe Suka is a Mathblade alt, but that isn't overly important from my read. Her confidence for Vorkuta being town seems unfounded. The comments about "read fluidity" are a common way I have seen scum pocket townreads, as it compliments their competence as a player (pockety) while also calling them town (pockety, and yes I'm aware that's a part of play as a whole). rb's progression on Suka is odd (#87 and #90 followed by him calling Suka a townread later on kind of being what you're crumb reading rb's stuff at me as). Also, #417 kind of seems eye-rolly at a partner, though I may be speculating too much there.
I would like to see Nero Cain's take when he comes in the thread.
Right now, I would say town reads are Vorkuta, OkaPoka (redacted why), Nero Cain, Creature (if he remains active).