Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Yachting n Socializing]

I'm not, it's the quality of the lurking that bothers me.

... what?

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's just treat YellowSnow as townblock for now

If you think he's scum when I'm dead you're welcome to do something about it

[DrDolittle]

i meta'd shoshin's normals briefly, and her play is pretty curt compared to previous (both scum and town), which might indicate a lack of time these days. I didn't find anything particularly salient, other than town-shoshin is more likely to follow up with unanswered q's (sample size 2), and scum-shoshin is more interested in trivialities (sample size 1). Given this, I think I more scum lean shoshin this game due to meta?

The idea that I'm "more likely to follow up with unanswered q's" is provably false. Please provide specific game examples where I followed up on more unanswered questions as town than as scum.

As I argued clearly, I meta'd 3 games in mini normals:
2042 - town shoshin https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
2012 - town shoshin https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
2010 - scum shoshin https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

in the town games, if you search response/respond, there's a lot of hits, and a brief glance indicating shoshin cares about people's responses to her questions and how they react to comments. In the scum-game I link, there is no hits to response/respond. You guys can verify yourself if you want...

I also don't really see the incentive to lie here? Of course sample size is small, so variance could play a role

[YellowSnow]

You can lurk and still provide high content posts.

[DrDolittle]

DDL is active lurking.

wtf how am i active lurking you want to tell me

[DrDolittle]

ive been putting in way more contribution than you and youre just riding off daddy rc is town-reading me coast.

[Morality]

Dont ask stupid questions.

Don’t make stupid comments then.

[Yachting n Socializing]

Okay. So you are scumreading his posting and how absent it is, not the fact he has low activity. That's the kind of thing you need to clarify.

Why did you add the word active in front of lurking with DDL?

[YellowSnow]

I never called you scum. I’m still optimistically hoping you’re town and will choose to deal with that at a later time.

Oh!

VOTE: Vedith
Because as much as I love Saitama, you seem to be WAAAY too preoccupied with what/how other people think of you.

Should I claim?

Do you think Yellow is town?

No idea

He isn't scumhunting. And his posting feels awkward.

But I'm town.

you thought wrong

Hmm thats odd.

Scum are more likely to lack motivation in a playerlist this strong.

Disagree

637 is scummy.

It's NAI

These are all bad posts.

[Yachting n Socializing]

I think 690 is a pretty good post if Creature is town. Hypothetical scum!Snow had ample opportunity to take the easy mislynch and didnt. Some of it is bad yea, its a fine line between mislynch bait and scum.

You seriously have RC as scum after last night? I dont see that one at all personally.

So you’re saying ScumRC isn’t capable of pulling the wool over people’s eyes Day 1?

Is calling RC a town read a stupid comment? Look at how (I cant say this word) your post is.

[RadiantCowbells]

ive been putting in way more contribution than you and youre just riding off daddy rc is town-reading me coast.

[Yachting n Socializing]

Also, DDL is not lurking period. He has posted more than 3 players who have been here from the start, and it's short posts but not fluff.

[DrDolittle]

Wow I haven't posted and I'm already being scumread. A lot of Pages for me To read.

I can feel the love.

shoshin wheres ur scumread so i can lynch them with you

VOTE: radiantcowbells

Cow has voted 4 times in the first 7 pages. Looks like they are Looking for reasons to vote than scum.

Is that your opinion or fact?

I'm not scum I'm town. I was Scum once before you can check my wiki.

Right behind me or rc?

These are all bad posts.

Hey look I can do that too!

[Morality]

I think 690 is a pretty good post if Creature is town. Hypothetical scum!Snow had ample opportunity to take the easy mislynch and didnt. Some of it is bad yea, its a fine line between mislynch bait and scum.

You seriously have RC as scum after last night? I dont see that one at all personally.

So you’re saying ScumRC isn’t capable of pulling the wool over people’s eyes Day 1?

Is calling RC a town read a stupid comment? Look at how (I cant say this word) your post is.

It’s naive of you to lock town RC this early.

RC agrees scum him wouldn’t get caught, so putting a player like RC so high as town looks like new town or scum playing a political move.

I’m starting to think you’re hiding behind your tunnels. My town read has dissipated. You are now null.

[YellowSnow]

Except Vediths is actually a fair sample wheras mine is not.

[YellowSnow]

Let's lynch Vedith then.

VOTE: Vedith

[Morality]

You know what, i just feel like reaction testing. Im struggling to have any confident reads.

VOTE: Shoshin

[DrDolittle]

selective picking short posts doesn't make it a fair sample. otherwise I would get 104 posts of yours that is "bad post".

you haven't responded to why you think im actively lurking

[Yachting n Socializing]

I think 690 is a pretty good post if Creature is town. Hypothetical scum!Snow had ample opportunity to take the easy mislynch and didnt. Some of it is bad yea, its a fine line between mislynch bait and scum.

You seriously have RC as scum after last night? I dont see that one at all personally.

So you’re saying ScumRC isn’t capable of pulling the wool over people’s eyes Day 1?

Is calling RC a town read a stupid comment? Look at how (I cant say this word) your post is.

It’s naive of you to lock town RC this early.

RC agrees scum him wouldn’t get caught, so putting a player like RC so high as town looks like new town or scum playing a political move.

I’m starting to think you’re hiding behind your tunnels. My town read has dissipated. You are now null.

He's not lock town. He's a town read. And what tunnels? I'm not tunnelling anybody, fuck right off lmao.

[DrDolittle]

VOTE: shoshin

[RadiantCowbells]

We're not voting Shoshin D1 lol that's gamethrowing

[Yachting n Socializing]

You know what, i just feel like reaction testing. Im struggling to have any confident reads.

VOTE: Shoshin

We all know the best reaction tests are pre announced ones

[RadiantCowbells]

If Shoshin is town she will force scum to nightkill her before endgame

We never Lynch her D1 ever

[Yachting n Socializing]

We're not voting Shoshin D1 lol that's gamethrowing

Correct.

[Yachting n Socializing]

i meta'd shoshin's normals briefly, and her play is pretty curt compared to previous (both scum and town), which might indicate a lack of time these days. I didn't find anything particularly salient, other than town-shoshin is more likely to follow up with unanswered q's (sample size 2), and scum-shoshin is more interested in trivialities (sample size 1). Given this, I think I more scum lean shoshin this game due to meta?

Perhaps, but it isnt where we are lynching today.

Radiant should be nicer about that too though. I have seen much worse ICs than Aura is playing, depending how flips go of course. At least hes actually following along and not apathetic due to the shit role IC is.

@DDL