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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:26 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1045, Sailor Senshi wrote:
Except it's a meta-based argument in the first place.
RCE is arguing:
a) that my argument with RC was faked (0.o)
b) for the sake of saving Bitmap (was the wagon on Bitmap growing at that point?)
c) based on his sense that I am like to "scum brag" as scum (???)
C is an explicitly a meta-based argument which raises the question of what games he imagines I "scum bragged" in. He's played with me twice as scum iirc and imo neither of those games included me "scum bragging" -- although all three individual components of his argument seem sketch.
Also.
In post 508, Sailor Senshi wrote:Gamma spat might make Gamma town and I have no problem with the push on Bitmap
None of these things are actually interesting, they're things that happened in the thread but that doesn't make them actually worth comment unless I feel like Bitmap or pops is actually worth a push.
I actually specifically said that one of the reason I wasn't engaging more in the thread was because I basically had no problem with the Bitmap wagon which is why I was skeptical of the need to push our slot for content in the first place. If the game was already advancing on a good wagon, why is it *my slot* that produced an argument to 'save' Bitmap?
-Mercury
You may be right. RCE’s shade on you wrt Bitmap is super sus, because it has zilch to do with either you or RC. Where is he getting Bitmap from any of that?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:28 pm
by Sailor Senshi
Mech announcement. -- We were targeted by a day ability
(a day roleblock as far as I can tell).
The flavor basically read: Our day abilities were sealed.
To be clear, we were informed that our abilities were sealed, this does not mean that we have a day ability or that we tried to use one necessarily. It seemed like we would be informed of the day roleblock regardless of whether we had a day ability or not. We were not informed of which player targeted us.
I kinda don't know why we were informed that our abilities were sealed, trying to remember the word for where you know you're targeted by the ability but not who targeted you. Or is that just a variation of loud? Or is this a common ruling from GiF that people are informed when they're targeted by a roleblock?
-Mercury
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:30 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1048, Titus wrote:Hmph...
The proxy thing works by Katsuki voting who I say. I already answered why the different wagon...VCA.
Shiro should bake a cookie matching your hydra's mood.
I will have to reread that. Did you explain in that post, why Katsuki?
I was expecting you to answer something like chocolate chip but okay.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:30 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:B.) Pfup was a meta outlier for all of your scum games. I think a lot higher of your scum potential than was shown there.
Why? Did you think I did well in Jazz or what games are you thinking of here? I mean I remember you feeling like I fooled you but I was also being destroyed by Skitter at the time so I don't feel like that was a particularly good game for me.
-Mercury
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:33 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:B.) Pfup was a meta outlier for all of your scum games. I think a lot higher of your scum potential than was shown there.
oh wait or were you talking about Nancy here?
-Mercury
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:33 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 1045, Sailor Senshi wrote:
Except it's a meta-based argument in the first place.
RCE is arguing:
a) that my argument with RC was faked (0.o)
b) for the sake of saving Bitmap (was the wagon on Bitmap growing at that point?)
c) based on his sense that I am like to "scum brag" as scum (???)
C is an explicitly a meta-based argument which raises the question of what games he imagines I "scum bragged" in. He's played with me twice as scum iirc and imo neither of those games included me "scum bragging" -- although all three individual components of his argument seem sketch.
Also.
In post 508, Sailor Senshi wrote:Gamma spat might make Gamma town and I have no problem with the push on Bitmap
None of these things are actually interesting, they're things that happened in the thread but that doesn't make them actually worth comment unless I feel like Bitmap or pops is actually worth a push.
I actually specifically said that one of the reason I wasn't engaging more in the thread was because I basically had no problem with the Bitmap wagon which is why I was skeptical of the need to push our slot for content in the first place. If the game was already advancing on a good wagon, why is it *my slot* that produced an argument to 'save' Bitmap?
-Mercury
A.) No I said it has the possibility to be intentional.
B.) Like I said I don't really know if it would have or not.
C.) I do think you have the ability to open wolf and be townread for it. You specifically, maybe not Nancy in the same way. I'm using the term in the general sense scum can tell town the truth in a right in front of your nose kind of way.
The bonus bit at the end is a fair point actually, but only regarding your stance. A good wagon for town isn't a good wagon for scum and requires a reaction.
Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:34 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1051, Sailor Senshi wrote:Mech announcement. -- We were targeted by a day ability
(a day roleblock as far as I can tell).
The flavor basically read: Our day abilities were sealed.
To be clear, we were informed that our abilities were sealed, this does not mean that we have a day ability or that we tried to use one necessarily. It seemed like we would be informed of the day roleblock regardless of whether we had a day ability or not. We were not informed of which player targeted us.
I kinda don't know why we were informed that our abilities were sealed, trying to remember the word for where you know you're targeted by the ability but not who targeted you. Or is that just a variation of loud? Or is this a common ruling from GiF that people are informed when they're targeted by a roleblock?
-Mercury
Follower, I think. It tells you what action was performed on you but not who performed it. Loud roleblocker?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:34 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 1053, Sailor Senshi wrote: In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:B.) Pfup was a meta outlier for all of your scum games. I think a lot higher of your scum potential than was shown there.
Why? Did you think I did well in Jazz or what games are you thinking of here? I mean I remember you feeling like I fooled you but I was also being destroyed by Skitter at the time so I don't feel like that was a particularly good game for me.
-Mercury
Yeah I had jazz specifically in mind. Keep in mind Skitter is much better at mafia than I am.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:35 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.
How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe
Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?
I'm not following
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:35 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1054, Sailor Senshi wrote: In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:B.) Pfup was a meta outlier for all of your scum games. I think a lot higher of your scum potential than was shown there.
oh wait or were you talking about Nancy here?
-Mercury
Why would he be talking about me, I wasn’t the one arguing with RC?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:36 pm
by Titus
In post 1052, Sailor Senshi wrote: In post 1048, Titus wrote:Hmph...
The proxy thing works by Katsuki voting who I say. I already answered why the different wagon...VCA.
Shiro should bake a cookie matching your hydra's mood.
I will have to reread that. Did you explain in that post, why Katsuki?
I was expecting you to answer something like chocolate chip but okay.
Actually chocolate is awesome. I just can't keep my love of chocolate quiet.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:36 pm
by Dannflor
In post 1055, RCEnigma wrote:Playing devil's advocate the case can be made that scum took advantage of you vs Ephraim as the catalyst. Which is what I was getting at when I alluded to the implication on LE's slot.
Oh okay
I'm still not sure how that gets you to Bitmap is scum
Like I don't know what exactly about the conflict is tipping you off that it was either a distraction or utilized as a distraction
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:38 pm
by Bitmap
Actually RCEnigma, what did
I
do specifically to warrant a scum read and a vote?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:39 pm
by Bitmap
Like your scum read on me is based on someone else's actions...
Why aren't you voting the person who did the scummy action?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:39 pm
by Titus
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:40 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1058, Dannflor wrote: In post 1049, RCEnigma wrote:C.) I've been exploring a hypothetical why the distraction would occur and Dann narrowed it into "RCE thinks Sailor is bits partner." Which is not what I said.
How is this distraction orchestrated if that's not what you believe
Sailor as town purposefully tries to distract from the Bitmap wagon?
I'm not following
It’s quite a reach, but is it town or scum motivated? Since it’s RCE, anything’s possible.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:42 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 1063, Bitmap wrote:Like your scum read on me is based on someone else's actions...
Why aren't you voting the person who did the scummy action?
Wouldn't be the first time I've caught scum via another slot.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:44 pm
by Sailor Senshi
I feel like this is both really cynical and just not a sound strategic move for scum to make but I'm not particularly in the mood to argue the point right now in greater detail right now. I will say that I'm kinda surprised you're making this argument but I'm not sure how it swings in your alignment.
-Mercury
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:45 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I think Informing is the proper term
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:47 pm
by Bitmap
In post 1066, RCEnigma wrote: In post 1063, Bitmap wrote:Like your scum read on me is based on someone else's actions...
Why aren't you voting the person who did the scummy action?
Wouldn't be the first time I've caught scum via another slot.
ok good for u RCEnigma Im proud of u
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:47 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1062, Bitmap wrote:Actually RCEnigma, what did
I
do specifically to warrant a scum read and a vote?
In post 1063, Bitmap wrote:Like your scum read on me is based on someone else's actions...
Why aren't you voting the person who did the scummy action?
Good questions
VOTE: RCEnigma
I already expressed concern about this push and Bitmap is looking a little better
Honestly I think it's best if I turn out the feedback from our spat
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:48 pm
by popsofctown
The 1v1 is over and Nancy Drew and Shiro are pretty active now. Why are you still here, Krazy? Have you fallen back in love with mafia?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:49 pm
by Tana and Ephraim
In post 1066, RCEnigma wrote: In post 1063, Bitmap wrote:Like your scum read on me is based on someone else's actions...
Why aren't you voting the person who did the scummy action?
Wouldn't be the first time I've caught scum via another slot.
With how much weight you put into this "tell" or however you'd call it, how many times out of how many have you used it and caught scum with it?
-Tana
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:50 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1071, popsofctown wrote:The 1v1 is over and Nancy Drew and Shiro are pretty active now. Why are you still here, Krazy? Have you fallen back in love with mafia?
Why SHOULDN'T Krazy be here?
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:51 pm
by Sailor Senshi
In post 1071, popsofctown wrote:The 1v1 is over and Nancy Drew and Shiro are pretty active now. Why are you still here, Krazy? Have you fallen back in love with mafia?
wtf?
-Mercury