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Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:39 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 4592, Tana and Ephraim wrote:nah i've seriously considered it a few times i just usually go away consciously aware that i don't have
the greatest
reasons to townread you but still feeling like you're town anyway \o/
spoilers: they were town.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:39 am
by eth0s
I just realized you ALSO REPLACED INTO A FUCKING SCUM SLOT IN THAT GAME HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:39 am
by eth0s
omg i forgot about that

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:39 am
by eth0s
The guy with the great gamesolves who NEVER WANTS TO REPLACE INTO A SCUM SLOT just did it in the last game I played with him :lol: this is getting juicy

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:40 am
by RadiantCowbells
A SCUM SLOT WHO HAD 0 POSTED.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:40 am
by eth0s
In post 1050, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 4592, Tana and Ephraim wrote:nah i've seriously considered it a few times i just usually go away consciously aware that i don't have
the greatest
reasons to townread you but still feeling like you're town anyway \o/
spoilers: they were town.
of course jam is town you're the fucking scum

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:41 am
by RadiantCowbells
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... overview=1

0 posts from reaper of souls. I correctly scumread Norwegian, joined the game to kill them, ended up being their scumbuddy. I also only joined the game because the moderator personally requested that I join.
See that sudden burst of emotionality from Eth0s when they think they have something legit to push me on? That burst of emotion doesn't come from town here who thinks they've always had a real case.
That comes from scum who has felt cornered and suddenly thinks they have this great argument to bring to the table.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:47 am
by eth0s
In post 1056, RadiantCowbells wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... overview=1

0 posts from reaper of souls. I correctly scumread Norwegian, joined the game to kill them, ended up being their scumbuddy. I also only joined the game because the moderator personally requested that I join.
See that sudden burst of emotionality from Eth0s when they think they have something legit to push me on? That burst of emotion doesn't come from town here who thinks they've always had a real case.
That comes from scum who has felt cornered and suddenly thinks they have this great argument to bring to the table.
No I already got all the legit stuff out, that part was just hilarious. Trying to discredit all of the logical reasoning (pertaining to this game alone) that I have provided and cover it up with "the funny bit of me replacing into a scum role again is the real meat of his push" is so scummy and misreppy I don't even understand why you think that approach is going to work.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:48 am
by eth0s
on a side note you being requested to join in and the town not having a second vengekill makes me really just detest that entire game now

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:49 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1057, eth0s wrote:
In post 1056, RadiantCowbells wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... overview=1

0 posts from reaper of souls. I correctly scumread Norwegian, joined the game to kill them, ended up being their scumbuddy. I also only joined the game because the moderator personally requested that I join.
See that sudden burst of emotionality from Eth0s when they think they have something legit to push me on? That burst of emotion doesn't come from town here who thinks they've always had a real case.
That comes from scum who has felt cornered and suddenly thinks they have this great argument to bring to the table.
No I already got all the legit stuff out, that part was just hilarious. Trying to discredit all of the logical reasoning (pertaining to this game alone) that I have provided and cover it up with "the funny bit of me replacing into a scum role again is the real meat of his push" is so scummy and misreppy I don't even understand why you think that approach is going to work.
your arguments aren't even arguing my alignment, you're arguing exactly who my top scumread was at the start of the game
and you neither have any evidence for your claim that it wasn't you, nor have you given any reason it specifically is relevant to my alignment when I'm known for omgusing people as town.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:51 am
by eth0s
I already provided reasoning for why it wasn't me. You just keep lying and trying to push it under the rug.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:51 am
by RadiantCowbells
what is your reasoning for why it wasn't you and why does that matter

2 simple, easy questions

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:52 am
by RadiantCowbells
and btw, "I was terrified of the mighty god of townplay Eth0s and needed to lynch him or I would surely be doomed" isn't a reason that it's scum motivated, because everyone in the game knows better than that I would think.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:56 am
by eth0s
In post 947, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alright I think I'm committed either way, I should really like make follow up on my townreads but I think that the state of the game is one where if I take the time to do things the right way I will be lynched for it. Case on the person that I think is scum coming in a few hours, I just need to make lunch and get over my hangover a little bit more.
plus you were trying to be intentionally vague with who your scumread was because you were trying to get reactions that would prove most fruitful FOR a scumread. That's why you were being so vague with "the person that I think is scum". Someone who is truly town has no reason to mask who they think is scum in this scenario. You were making it up as you went for all I know. Luckily I came in and pressured you quickly and gave you an easy choice.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:58 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1063, eth0s wrote:plus you were trying to be intentionally vague with who your scumread was because you were trying to get reactions that would prove most fruitful FOR a scumread. That's why you were being so vague with "the person that I think is scum". Someone who is truly town has no reason to mask who they think is scum in this scenario. You were making it up as you went for all I know. Luckily I came in and pressured you quickly and gave you an easy choice.
I was intentionally trying to be vague on who my scumread was. I have done this numerous times as town before and I think it is legitimately
more common
for me to keep my cards face down when I replace into games than it is for me to immediately go out with everything. This moreso because I usually appreciate the time to think about the thread and interact with people before actually revealing my thought processes. Another fringe benefit? Sometimes scum freaks out, thinks that I must have them correctly scumread, and goes after me in a scummy way, which is what happened here.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:58 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1063, eth0s wrote:Someone who is truly town has no reason to mask who they think is scum in this scenario.
Also, this is about the fifth time Eth0s has pushed me as scum for something that it is well known that I do as both alignments.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:59 am
by eth0s
In post 1061, RadiantCowbells wrote:what is your reasoning for why it wasn't you and why does that matter

2 simple, easy questions
already answered the first part and it matters because you have claimed to have this primary scumread all game and were intentionally obfuscating whatever it was supposed to be in order to gauge reactions for the most fruitful choice. It matters because you were caught lying and there's no reason for you to lie about something like that as town. It sucks having to explain stuff that scum already knows to scum.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:00 am
by eth0s
In post 1065, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1063, eth0s wrote:Someone who is truly town has no reason to mask who they think is scum in this scenario.
Also, this is about the fifth time Eth0s has pushed me as scum for something that it is well known that I do as both alignments.
I don't know your meta. I know that you're known for gamesolves and I know that you play a good scum game as well. I know that you made the setup we are playing. That's about it. So you can stop pulling that card now

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:01 am
by RadiantCowbells
On the other hand, as scum with my only objective to get townread, I prefer to replace in with more of a
bang
, if you will, and often compose cases during the night.
already answered the first part and it matters because you have claimed to have this primary scumread all game and were intentionally obfuscating whatever it was supposed to be in order to gauge reactions for the most fruitful choice. It matters because you were caught lying and there's no reason for you to lie about something like that as town. It sucks having to explain stuff that scum already knows to scum.
You still have not provided a shred of evidence that you were not my primary scumread. The most that you've done is arguing that you
could
have not been my primary scumread but have shown no actual evidence for it being true as opposed to simply unknowable. You can't call me a liar when the best you can argue is that my primary scumread was unknown until I said it was you.
I don't know your meta. I know that you're known for gamesolves and I know that you play a good scum game as well. I know that you made the setup we are playing. That's about it. So you can stop pulling that card now
I suppose that
now that you know
this information you're not going to change your read on me for it, right? :P

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:03 am
by eth0s
In post 1068, RadiantCowbells wrote:On the other hand, as scum with my only objective to get townread, I prefer to replace in with more of a
bang
, if you will, and often compose cases during the night.
already answered the first part and it matters because you have claimed to have this primary scumread all game and were intentionally obfuscating whatever it was supposed to be in order to gauge reactions for the most fruitful choice. It matters because you were caught lying and there's no reason for you to lie about something like that as town. It sucks having to explain stuff that scum already knows to scum.
You still have not provided a shred of evidence that you were not my primary scumread. The most that you've done is arguing that you
could
have not been my primary scumread but have shown no actual evidence for it being true as opposed to simply unknowable. You can't call me a liar when the best you can argue is that my primary scumread was unknown until I said it was you.
I don't know your meta. I know that you're known for gamesolves and I know that you play a good scum game as well. I know that you made the setup we are playing. That's about it. So you can stop pulling that card now
I suppose that
now that you know
this information you're not going to change your read on me for it, right? :P
I do not give a flying fuck about self meta. I think I have said this in about every game because scum always try to pull it out to justify their actions. Do I even need to explain why it's to utterly useless or can you stop pretending to be dumb now

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:04 am
by RadiantCowbells
I notice that you engaged with the self meta bit as opposed to the fact that your entire case on me is predicated on you have evidence that I changed my primary scumread when you acknowledged you would have had no way of knowing.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:04 am
by eth0s
In post 1012, eth0s wrote:
In post 941, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm finding the other person I had in contention as scum harder and harder to even see as scum at this point.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

what do you guys think about this post
In post 1013, eth0s wrote:
In post 944, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 728, Errantparabola wrote:
i’m not responsible for what happens after this song
why do you think mine are always so long?


- Afterglow,
Nervous Young Man


votecount 2.5


Egix96
(3): faüstiv, Draynth, Spangled
faüstiv
(3): Egix96, eth0s, Jamelia

Not Voting
(1): Geyde

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-10-08 12:24:00)
Just a reminder that my predecessor posted while Faustiv was still at L-1 and had a long history of calling Faustiv scum in this game.
Went into a long diatribe about Egix's potential partners that is actually generally correct and Jamelia ended up sheeping that logic to not vote later.

Moreso feeling like my non-Eth0s scumread was correct but dear god I want to believe that that ridiculous ego is a scum ploy.
and this one

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:07 am
by eth0s
I'd love to see you go over my ISO and tell me why I'm scum. I like the case would look like swiss cheese and I want you to prove me wrong

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1071, eth0s wrote:Just a reminder that my predecessor posted while Faustiv was still at L-1 and had a long history of calling Faustiv scum in this game.
Went into a long diatribe about Egix's potential partners that is actually generally correct and Jamelia ended up sheeping that logic to not vote later.

Moreso feeling like my non-Eth0s scumread was correct but dear god I want to believe that that ridiculous ego is a scum ploy.
Okay, let's discuss this for a moment.

First of all, this is after Eth0s called me scum.
Second off: I called something Jamelia did scummy (sheeping that logic to not vote later.) That confirms one half of my claimed scumreads. non-Eth0s scumread confirms the other half.
Third off: This does prove that I waffled on my read. If anything this is further argument that you were in fact my primary scumread and my claimed flow of reads was correct.
All you're doing it arguing that I wasn't absolutely 100% sure it was you from the moment that I replaced in... but isn't that time spent exploring all my scumreads towny if anything?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 1072, eth0s wrote:I'd love to see you go over my ISO and tell me why I'm scum. I like the case would look like swiss cheese and I want you to prove me wrong
I already cased you.