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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:17 am
by DrDolittle
In post 1027, tictac wrote:CJ could have easily unvoted buddy.zen in 164.
-> I still think skitt+zen is ruled out.
i dont get this at all.

frankly that's my feeling on you most of the game. i dont really understand the logical progression of your reads. like you post something then come to a conclusion that i find completely unattainable.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:32 am
by tictac
In post 1041, january wrote:@tictac im still not sure enough to vote, hence the unvote - still waiting for something to convince me i guess
do u think I'm wrong in ruling out skitt+zen?
if not, do u actually object to me voting doc here if ya assume I'm town? cuz I think I'm nearly good to go.
In post 1045, DrDolittle wrote:Tic tac did you just quote everything Jan said
not everything :P
In post 1047, DrDolittle wrote:"Ruling" out scum-pairs is oft a scum used technique to almost force lynches without seeming so. I.e. vork flipped town (tictac scum would know this), therefore, here is the potential lynch options for today. It looks natural, and is a way to push votes without thinking.
now u making stuff up.
Plus I don't think it's a very good POE in the first place.
ok. what part of it is flawed?
jan-town or ruling out zen+skitt?
cuz if I'm right about both of those things then ya have to be scum from my pow.
in fact I'd expect the logic to work in reverse if ya town, and make me look scummy to ya, yet ya pushing skitt more than ya push me.
calling me scum is super unconvincing for me cuz I know it's not true, but if there's flaws in my logic feel free to point them out.

pedit: ok. here's the logic for ruling out skitt+zen:
In post 972, tictac wrote:
skitt zen
I don't think partner-zen puts skitt to L-1 in
In post 1027, tictac wrote: CJ could have easily unvoted buddy.zen in .
-> I still think skitt+zen is ruled out.
CJ pushing zen while zen on L-1, before the mason reveals, leaving him in L-1 for 24h despite esily could have unvoted 'to prevent quickhammers'.
zen putting skitt on L-1 day 2.
i think this play is sufficiently crazy that scumz would not in fact do that.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:35 am
by skitter30
I was nominally vla on fridays before but i'm going to be really vla on fridays for the forseeable future, i'll be around tomorrow night

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:48 am
by Zenith
Ppl be like that's town or that's scum but I just don't see the ai. I just see wifom and people making assumptions about which glass is which, without much in the way of explaining why it couldn't be the the other glass. Meanwhile I'm still suspicious of both glasses and don't really want to drink the koolaid being pushed.

And the site stiill be lagging, but I guess I'm the only one so maybe the site just hates me?

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:49 am
by skitter30
It's been lagging on and off for me to, it was really bad for me last night, that's why i wasnt here

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:56 am
by Zenith
In post 1049, DrDolittle wrote:zen whats ur reads
I don't have any town reads right now.
Skitter scares me in a sort of sneaky way, tictac scares me in an agenda pushing way, jan scares me in a sort of staying mostly off my radar way, and you scare me in a more friendly kind of way.

All I see is wifom. I could see all actions as coming from town or scum and I don't particularly enjoy this feeling.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:59 am
by Zenith
Skitter seems like she could want to slit my throat in my sleep, dr and jan seem like they could want to poison my sandwhich, and tictac seems like he could want to tell me to look at something while pointing with one hand and stabbing me in the back with the other hand.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:03 am
by Zenith
Hmm... All of a sudden is lagging much less..

I suppose if I were forced to vote someone right now. Due to the events leading to Vork's death I'm most wary of skitter right now.

Plus that skitter signature keeps staring at me.. =\

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:45 am
by january
skit - i could explain my reads on u and vork again, but i’m pretty sure i’ve explained it in previous posts

if you really want i can go and quote everything but i think you could probably just ISO and check, and tell me if you have specific issue with anything i said. if i was to explain now it’d probably just be me parroting what i said earlier

and yeah what someone said about stagnating - it’s kinda making me want to spend less energy in this game (sorry - kind of)

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:46 am
by january
zenith your reads are so... useless

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:48 am
by Plotinus
Official Vote Count 3.02
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LynchingWith 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to lynch.

Everybody
(0): Nobody

Not Voting
(5): DrDolittle, january, skitter30, tictac, Zenith

Deadline:
(expired on 2019-11-14 08:15:00).


Mod notes:
skitter is V/LA until Saturday night[/area]

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:22 am
by january
tictac - not really sure about ruling them out specifically. i do think zenith’s towntold more out of the 3 so i might agree with u

idk i’m indecisive and i kinda just want this game to be over

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:27 pm
by DrDolittle
The thing is, I think it's just skit tictac scum.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:28 pm
by DrDolittle
They're both subtly coordinating setting up for my mislynch rn

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:46 pm
by tictac
In post 1062, DrDolittle wrote:The thing is, I think it's just skit tictac scum.
hokay then.
let's get things moving.

VOTE: doc

sorry if this throws yall.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:41 pm
by Zenith
Hmm.. Kinda suspicious of everyone so why not? Either scum will hammer or we get one step closer to winning. Kind of ready for this game to end tbh.

VOTE: DrDolittle
L-1

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:32 pm
by DrDolittle
?? Whta the fuck zen

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:32 pm
by DrDolittle
Unvote before potential scum skit hammers?

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:23 pm
by Zenith
UNVOTE:
If you aren't just flailing caughtscum, make your case.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:35 pm
by DrDolittle
you are literally voting because you're indifferent. Like you have absolutely apathy for the game. well fuck you because i care about the game and I want a scum lynch so if you can hold your horse that would be fantastic.

this whole game you're playing like absolute scum and you're only getting away with things because people think you play the newbie card. I wouldn't be surprised if you are second scum with either skit or jan.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:37 pm
by DrDolittle
actually im just gonna
requesting replacement
. im not in the right set of mind to play mafia.

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:45 pm
by Plotinus
DrDolittle has requested replacement. Searching...

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:32 pm
by january
geez that felt a bit dramatic

ok well first thing is that it's impossible for me to not take the replacement request into account, and i think it's a bit unfair to use that as a towntell in any way

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:34 pm
by january
second of all, i was online when there were 2 votes on dolittle (you can check my last online time or whatever - sorry if this isn't morally acceptable or something, but feels like this game is slightly morally compromised now anyways)

so to dolittle or whoever replaces them i should be clear

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:37 pm
by january
honestly... i just can't ignore #1069 and 1070

pretty sure there was a rule i read somewhere that said you couldn't use replacements as some sort of "i'm frustrated town" tell but there's no way to disregard it

i don't think he'd go that low to fake this whole reaction as scum.