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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:36 am
by AaronFrost
It's not the preferred situation for him, but there was about 12 hours left on the deadline when he was put at L-1. It would've been nearly impossible for him to turn the target on someone else, especially after the mason claims.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:36 am
by Ame
no idc

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:37 am
by Ame
In post 1050, AaronFrost wrote:It's not the preferred situation for him, but there was about 12 hours left on the deadline when he was put at L-1. It would've been nearly impossible for him to turn the target on someone else, especially after the mason claims.
But what's the advantage of hammering?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:37 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 1051, Ame wrote:no idc

Spoiler:
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what are your reads looking like?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:39 am
by AaronFrost
In post 1052, Ame wrote:
In post 1050, AaronFrost wrote:It's not the preferred situation for him, but there was about 12 hours left on the deadline when he was put at L-1. It would've been nearly impossible for him to turn the target on someone else, especially after the mason claims.
But what's the advantage of hammering?
That's what I'm trying to figure out

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:40 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 1052, Ame wrote:
In post 1050, AaronFrost wrote:It's not the preferred situation for him, but there was about 12 hours left on the deadline when he was put at L-1. It would've been nearly impossible for him to turn the target on someone else, especially after the mason claims.
But what's the advantage of hammering?

he may have been giving up, felt caught and figured why exhaust himself arguing about how its not him when he knew he was caught

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:40 am
by Emperor flippyNips
maybe stop his sb from trying to defend him, tho alot of stuff could of just been talked about in the pt.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:43 am
by Ame
Clidd > Hectic > Aaron

I think it's more likely his partner was already on his wagon. Otherwise, why not give his partner a chance to come around and hammer. If his partner is Aaron or Hectic they just look bad. It doesn't make sense to leave them in that position.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:43 am
by Emperor flippyNips
oh they dont have day chat

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:44 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 1, Pretentious wrote: 37] The Mafia do not have day talk by default.
whatever "by default" means

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:50 am
by Emperor flippyNips
them not having day chat makes me think the last scum was off the wagon even more

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:51 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 1057, Ame wrote:Clidd > Hectic > Aaron
why clidd?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:57 am
by clidd
My current reads are:


Locktown:
Luca Blight, Wimpy (Karnage), Emperor FlippyNips.
Indicative town:
Aaron Frost, Ame.
Unsure:
Dsjstr, Hectic.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:59 am
by clidd
Depending on whether or not there was an attempt to frame while protecting Aaron from Insomnia, he could go down. But, if that didn't happen, at least for me, i just need to determine the alignment of Karnage, and I will be able to solve the game between Hectic and Dsjstr.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:02 pm
by clidd
In post 1057, Ame wrote:Clidd > Hectic > Aaron

I think it's more likely his partner was already on his wagon. Otherwise, why not give his partner a chance to come around and hammer. If his partner is Aaron or Hectic they just look bad. It doesn't make sense to leave them in that position.
I completely disagree. Insomnia was, in part, falsifying his reactions, but there were still traces of real anger in his typing. The time he invested heavily in arguing against Aaron may have overshadowed the development of a strategy to "rid" his partner of suspicion, which I can perfectly theorize if Karnage is town.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:09 pm
by clidd
Well, it's up to you. Just as I agreed with Luca, even though I thought Insomnia was town, I will agree with you.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:10 pm
by dsjstr
In post 1064, clidd wrote:
In post 1057, Ame wrote:Clidd > Hectic > Aaron

I think it's more likely his partner was already on his wagon. Otherwise, why not give his partner a chance to come around and hammer. If his partner is Aaron or Hectic they just look bad. It doesn't make sense to leave them in that position.
I completely disagree. Insomnia was, in part, falsifying his reactions, but there were still traces of real anger in his typing. The time he invested heavily in arguing against Aaron may have overshadowed the development of a strategy to "rid" his partner of suspicion, which I can perfectly theorize if Karnage is town.
Who was he trying to rid suspicion of?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:10 pm
by clidd
In post 1045, Ame wrote:Why would he want to prevent his partner from hammering him?
Avoid a suggestive clue for the next day.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:12 pm
by clidd
In post 1066, dsjstr wrote:
In post 1064, clidd wrote:
In post 1057, Ame wrote:Clidd > Hectic > Aaron

I think it's more likely his partner was already on his wagon. Otherwise, why not give his partner a chance to come around and hammer. If his partner is Aaron or Hectic they just look bad. It doesn't make sense to leave them in that position.
I completely disagree. Insomnia was, in part, falsifying his reactions, but there were still traces of real anger in his typing. The time he invested heavily in arguing against Aaron may have overshadowed the development of a strategy to "rid" his partner of suspicion, which I can perfectly theorize if Karnage is town.
Who was he trying to rid suspicion of?
That is the question I intend to find the answer today.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:13 pm
by Ame
Leaning Hectic on second thought

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:21 pm
by clidd
HUH, RIGHT. NICE !

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:24 pm
by clidd
I remember a game where Hectic said that selfhammer was always, from his point of view,
AtE scum
. If that last sentence was genuine, perhaps it indicates he had no prior knowledge of the role of insomnia, therefore, he is
town
.
In post 440, Hectic wrote:This is what I'm more used to seeing from clidd as town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11552826

As town, he's very analytical and has good fleshed-out reasons for sorting people, but I'm not seeing the same thing in how he's townlocking Wimpy/Luca here. The reasons given there don't warrant a townlock. Not 100% I saw this, but why are you townreading him, AaronFF?
This post also emphasizes approaching a
town
!Hectic line of reasoning.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:27 pm
by Emperor flippyNips
i'll be around tonight. got some stuff i gotta go do

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:28 pm
by clidd
'' I didn't get that he selfvoted as a "trap". I'm sorry, clidd, but I never see self-voting like that as town-indicative. My first thought is always scum AtE. But maybe that's just how my brain is wired to never self-vote as any alignment if you want to win, so I just see it like that ''
- Hectic, Micro 915 (https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=81863), post 1223.


That's it, I remembered.
Hectic locktown
.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:30 pm
by clidd
If he were a partner, he probably wouldn't agree with Insomnia's self-vote too.