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Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:15 am
by Elements
In post 1034, Green Crayons wrote:Cycle as scum doesn’t really have a motive to challenge the validity of a counter wagon to his lynch.
wait, is this pro scum!cycle?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:15 am
by northsidegal
Votecount 1.32


TargetWagon
Cycle Men
(4)
Deimos27 (), humaneatingmonkey (), Isis (), Elements ()
Firebringer
(2)
votato (), Albert B. Rampage ()
NorwegianboyEE
(2)
Looker (), Green Crayons ()
Elements
(2)
Cycle Men (), Alisae ()
humaneatingmonkey
(1)
NorwegianboyEE ()
votato
(1)
Firebringer ()
Not Voting
(0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-08 06:42:59).

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:16 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1043, Alisae wrote:there is no town motivations in your actions.
town does not play this way.
this isn't really true

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:16 am
by Green Crayons
In post 1002, Cycle Men wrote:?????? how does this happen in a human brain
VOTE: elements
I don’t see how this is scum material from Elements

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:16 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1050, Elements wrote:
In post 1034, Green Crayons wrote:Cycle as scum doesn’t really have a motive to challenge the validity of a counter wagon to his lynch.
wait, is this pro scum!cycle?
i believe it's a town!cycle consideration

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:17 am
by Alisae
In post 1052, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1043, Alisae wrote:there is no town motivations in your actions.
town does not play this way.
this isn't really true
town at first reaction to my scumread tries to take this opportunity to sort me and tries to understand why
what elements did was immediately say that my reads are fake and aimed to discredit me

thats a scum response imo

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:17 am
by Cycle Men
In post 1047, Alisae wrote:Cycle Men vote Elements
wait i already did

@nsg you missed my vote i think?


votecounts have been corrected, thanks.

-nsg

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:17 am
by Elements
In post 1054, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1050, Elements wrote:
In post 1034, Green Crayons wrote:Cycle as scum doesn’t really have a motive to challenge the validity of a counter wagon to his lynch.
wait, is this pro scum!cycle?
i believe it's a town!cycle consideration
in that case scum!cycle =/= town!gc

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:17 am
by humaneatingmonkey
unless it's scum!NorwEE and scum!Cycle. He's more willing to get lynched and make up a reason for an alternative vote (me) than to bus NorwEE

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:18 am
by Elements
In post 1049, Alisae wrote:
In post 1046, Elements wrote:if cycle flips scum we get gc town, ail scum, norwee town
lmao ur scum dude
cycle men as scum with me votes you by now
is this a scum slip?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:19 am
by Green Crayons
In post 1028, Alisae wrote:
In post 1024, Green Crayons wrote:VOTE: Notwegian
nah i don't agree
i don't think norwee thinks im scum but also thinks im annoying at the same time
those are conflicting thought processes
But see:
In post 878, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 876, Alisae wrote:This wagon is super possible people just need to use their fucking votes
Super possible because you have 2 teammates to vote with you? Or are you referring to something else?
VOTE: Norwegian

This is a scummy attempt to discredit votes against him. First it doesn’t address the reasons for the vote. Second it attacks the vote pusher for a pretty wild conspiracy. Scum block vote for a fast lynch at the end of the game, not on D1.

In post 916, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Humaneatingmonkey
A vote because he doesn’t like a policy lynch rationale from someone who was willing to policy lynch. Opportunistic to vote human, after cycle did, based on this thin reed and ignoring everything else.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:19 am
by Alisae
like
their first reaction was to discredit me instead of ask me why i scumread them.

they did it after but you ask why I scumread them first to see their answer and try to evaluate an opinion based on that answer.
Instead they came out with an opinion right away before trying to ask me why I scumread them.

Also, they're playing this angle of "Well there's no scum motivation to my play so I have to be town" to try to excuse themselves from being scummy when thats just not how it works. Because there is no town motivation in their actions either.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:19 am
by Green Crayons
Oh that’s a double vote because I had started collecting Norg posts on my phone but got distracted

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:20 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1028, Alisae wrote:
In post 1024, Green Crayons wrote:VOTE: Notwegian
nah i don't agree
i don't think norwee thinks im scum but also thinks im annoying at the same time
those are conflicting thought processes
this isn't really true. scum!norwee can use ate to discredit town!you as being annoying. town!norwee will say that scum!you is scummy, not annoying

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:21 am
by Alisae
In post 1060, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1028, Alisae wrote:
In post 1024, Green Crayons wrote:VOTE: Notwegian
nah i don't agree
i don't think norwee thinks im scum but also thinks im annoying at the same time
those are conflicting thought processes
But see:
In post 878, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 876, Alisae wrote:This wagon is super possible people just need to use their fucking votes
Super possible because you have 2 teammates to vote with you? Or are you referring to something else?
VOTE: Norwegian

This is a scummy attempt to discredit votes against him. First it doesn’t address the reasons for the vote. Second it attacks the vote pusher for a pretty wild conspiracy. Scum block vote for a fast lynch at the end of the game, not on D1.
In post 916, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: Humaneatingmonkey
A vote because he doesn’t like a policy lynch rationale from someone who was willing to policy lynch. Opportunistic to vote human, after cycle did, based on this thin reed and ignoring everything else.
Okay but its too flawed to come from scum. One of us flips town and he looks REALLY bad. Scum don't push angles like that.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:23 am
by Cycle Men
human suddenly defending elements makes me feel like he never intended to push that way in the first place and is just doing it for the sake of hiding associatives

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:23 am
by Elements
ok so I'm thinking Ali, cycle, someone not currently active as the scum team.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:24 am
by Green Crayons
He’s too scummy to be scum?

Come on.

I’m still trying to mull over Elements.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:24 am
by Cycle Men
In post 1065, Cycle Men wrote:human suddenly defending elements makes me feel like he never intended to push that way in the first place and is just doing it for the sake of hiding associatives
was just*

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:24 am
by Alisae
In post 1063, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1028, Alisae wrote:
In post 1024, Green Crayons wrote:VOTE: Notwegian
nah i don't agree
i don't think norwee thinks im scum but also thinks im annoying at the same time
those are conflicting thought processes
this isn't really true. scum!norwee can use ate to discredit town!you as being annoying. town!norwee will say that scum!you is scummy, not annoying
he's not using AtE.
He is saying that he thinks im scum but also i am annoying him. Like, I basically cornered him and he doesn't know how to react, and acknowledges that I am annoying because deep down in this mind, he thinks that he could be wrong, but he's scumreading me because im just pushing him.

I'm using a lot of words to describe what is essentially a self-defense mechanism, because I know sometimes I can act fairly similarly as well.
I encountered Norwee act this way before and when he did act this way, he was likely town.

Him calling me annoying and asking me to stop just doesn't make sense from a scum PoV there. As scum he just continues to discredit me because he would probably aim to maintain a consistent stance on me.
That post in of itself is an inconsitentcy and I don't think he makes it as scum.
It feels genuine.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:25 am
by Green Crayons
In post 1064, Alisae wrote:One of us flips town and he looks REALLY bad. Scu
Anything to survive a day.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:25 am
by Elements
Don't want to comment on your scum slip Ali?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:25 am
by Alisae
In post 1067, Green Crayons wrote:He’s too scummy to be scum?

Come on.

I’m still trying to mull over Elements.
not too scummy to be scummy
the logic just doesn't work and is faulty

its not rational and its chaotic and reactional, and its probably just town imo

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:26 am
by Alisae
In post 1071, Elements wrote:Don't want to comment on your scum slip Ali?
i mean
anything is possible if you lie

Posted: Thu May 07, 2020 1:26 am
by Green Crayons
In post 1066, Elements wrote:ok so I'm thinking Ali, cycle, someone not currently active as the scum team.
Why Ali?