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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:24 am
by shellyc
In post 1045, Menalque wrote:I still think pretty strongly that shelly is scum and think it is important that we start coalescing around a flip there
you say the wagon is moving slowly, when much of the plist are scum reading me for apparently reasons that im swimming with the tide when ANYONE THAT PAYS ATTENTION TO MY META AT ALL can realise that this is my towngame
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:25 am
by shellyc
do you see a world in which I am town
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:26 am
by Datisi
In post 1049, Menalque wrote:have you been asking people to vote shelly or just pressuring her on what she's been doing/saying?
i haven't asked anyone to vote there, it's a bit too early in the day imo (with not everyone even giving concrete reads) plus i still wanna reread isos
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:26 am
by Menalque
In post 1048, shellyc wrote:1me changing reads to fit the situation is my general town play really
as town I have much lower confidence in myself
2also, to the points that made me reconsider, things like the reaction to ico outing the fake was kinda artificial? the push on me for essentially swimming with the tide isn’t exactly town pinging either
(1) okay but this means literally nothing? also you don't have enough town games for this to be verifiable even on a meta level
(2) okay but this wasn't just about me and your read on me, the main bit was also about the change in your read from TvS in bm/noraa to TvT, something you ought to know if you'd checked the context of the question
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:27 am
by Menalque
In post 1050, shellyc wrote: In post 1045, Menalque wrote:I still think pretty strongly that shelly is scum and think it is important that we start coalescing around a flip there
you say the wagon is moving slowly, when much of the plist are scum reading me for apparently reasons that im swimming with the tide when ANYONE THAT PAYS ATTENTION TO MY META AT ALL can realise that this is my towngame
have you finished another town game since your last one?
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:27 am
by shellyc
In post 1037, TheGoldenParadox wrote:basically all of shelly's posts on page 38 scumping me hard. i have absolutely no idea what she's trying to accomplish here but it seems a lot like she's spinning in circles and not going anywhere. the entire taylor push is weird, 943 is unhelpful and unproductive, and just generally shelly is pinging me as scum who wants to create a townbloc and sell herself as town, either by pocketing actual town or working with other scum to wifom us. i'm happy with my vote on shelly, and i think shelly is a good d1 lynch here because they have quite a few interactions with almost everyone here.
wifom. does. not. fucking. exist
can you elaborate on spinning in circles, where do you expect me to go
why do you think Taylor push is weird
do you think creating town blocks are AI?
you’re filling up spaces with words to try and miselim me
sure flip me for info but remember scum are probably on-wagon now as im pretty miselimable as town
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:28 am
by Menalque
like yelling "THIS IS MY TOWNGAME" does exactly nothing to convince me this is your towngame
like what, you want me to believe that scum!you isn't capable of yelling that?
and to the second point: yes, of course I can see a world in which you're town, I just don't see that as likely. I can see a world in which anyone is town or scum at this point apart from myself
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:28 am
by Menalque
not to steal from TGP the chance to respond but: yes. trying to create townblocs is scum indicative
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:29 am
by bob3141
In post 1048, shellyc wrote:
me changing reads to fit the situation
is my general town play really
as town I have much lower confidence in myself
also, to the points that made me reconsider, things like the reaction to ico outing the fake was kinda artificial? the push on me for essentially swimming with the tide isn’t exactly town pinging either
shelly can you explain the bold. Are you saying you changed your reads to suit your situation. As that doesnt sound like towny thing to do.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:30 am
by Menalque
In post 1052, Datisi wrote:it's a bit too early in the day imo (with not everyone even giving concrete reads) plus i still wanna reread isos
yeah okay, fair. I would like everyone to give reads before we end day but I'm pretty happy with at least getting shelly up to L-1 and getting a claim or not
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:30 am
by Menalque
bob are you already voting shelly?
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:32 am
by Datisi
mena give me motivation for this game pls
do you want triangle
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:32 am
by shellyc
In post 1053, Menalque wrote:(1) okay but this means literally nothing? also you don't have enough town games for this to be verifiable even on a meta level
(2) okay but this wasn't just about me and your read on me, the main bit was also about the change in your read from TvS in bm/noraa to TvT, something you ought to know if you'd checked the context of the question
Just take my word
I literally spent time thinking about it and its not my obligation to throw out all my thought processes
bmvNoraa might be TvT because noraa is a very inexperienced player and noraa might be caught in a tunnel I want to entertain counterfactuals and you’re currently scum reading me for it
pedit: why? how is that even AI
pedit: ok fine get me to E-1, idm my flip really if you think info flip benefits the overall game state
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:32 am
by shellyc
In post 1058, bob3141 wrote:shelly can you explain the bold. Are you saying you changed your reads to suit your situation. As that doesnt sound like towny thing to do.
not my situation
the overall game state
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:33 am
by shellyc
In post 1052, Datisi wrote:i haven't asked anyone to vote there, it's a bit too early in the day imo (with not everyone even giving concrete reads) plus i still wanna reread isos
listen if I get to flip today
this may be scum trying to encourage a town lim but not actually doing it
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:34 am
by Datisi
In post 1064, shellyc wrote: In post 1052, Datisi wrote:i haven't asked anyone to vote there, it's a bit too early in the day imo (with not everyone even giving concrete reads) plus i still wanna reread isos
listen if I get to flip today
this may be scum trying to encourage a town lim but not actually doing it
I've been voting you for like 2 days now tf you on about
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:35 am
by bob3141
going to take quick reread through taylor and shelly after i finish bing watching season 2 of ghosts on iplayer. But im heavily leaning shelly. Especially after shelly admitted to changing her reads to situation and not because she changed her mind . While trying to pass it off as a sign she town. When such an action is very scum indicative.
Im im right, i'm hoping for another hatrick. This town hunting has me on role. noir got 3 for 3. game before that 3 for 4
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:36 am
by shellyc
“haven’t asked anyone to vote there”
which is more like scum posturing around my green flip
since you could say hey I didn’t want that to be the vote, I didn’t want to ask others to wagon on
spitballing my ideas
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:37 am
by shellyc
you’re unfortunately wrong
and I suck at obvtowning, I don’t blame you
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:38 am
by shellyc
When I said the word “situation” I meant the overall gamestate
which could mean whatever others have posted / interactions
of course I would change my mind based off that
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:38 am
by Datisi
In post 1067, shellyc wrote:since you could say hey I didn’t want that to be the vote, I didn’t want to ask others to wagon on
if you ever hear me say "but i didn't want that to be the vote!!" on a wagon i jumped so early on and kept at, just poweryeet me lmao
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:39 am
by Menalque
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:40 am
by shellyc
I mean like this
I didn’t want the wagon to go so fast or something
pedit what’s a town triangle
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:40 am
by bob3141
In post 1063, shellyc wrote: In post 1058, bob3141 wrote:shelly can you explain the bold. Are you saying you changed your reads to suit your situation. As that doesnt sound like towny thing to do.
not my situation
the overall game state
See that's not much difference. That is very much something scum does.
A townie might change their mind but not because of gamestate. Now the gamestate might trigger them to reevaluate. But that change isn't to suit the situation. It is just a change and often does not suit the situation. At all.
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:41 am
by shellyc
situation = game-state
game-state changing = re-evaluation
why is re-evaluation scummy though