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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:07 am
by Menalque
Hello Penguin, I see you there, guess what I’ve got for you?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:08 am
by DrippingGoofball
Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.
Then I started to notice that players that talk about out-of-game topics, bring up sad excuses etc., definitely lean scum and I always give them flak.
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 am
by Menalque
I don’t disagree that making excuses for not posting is scummy, but it also depends a lot on what I think of the person and what said excuse is.
“I’ve been really busy will get to this soon” — generic excuse, has time to come to thread but not giving reads, ++scum
“I think I have a serious illness that can be life threatening in the middle of a global pandemic” — I don’t think lilith is the type of person who tells a lie of this magnitude to a bunch of people who care about her and will be worried about her RL well-being just to win a mafiagame +NAI
I’m not denying some people would lie about that sort of thing. I’ve definitely heard of cases where people have treated the game as “anything is morally justified within the bounds of mafia” and there’s certainly a couple of players I won’t name who I would not give even the slightest pass based on claims about IRL, either bc they’ve shown that they’ll lie for advantage about serious things, or because they themselves insist on being inhumane towards other players using the “it’s a game” justification. I don’t think lilith is that way at all based on the various interactions and games I’ve played with her in over the last few months
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 am
by petapan
In post 1035, Menalque wrote:Also there’s one player here who’s like, intensely scummy and hasn’t been pressured at all lmao
dear jesus, is it me
what i know about pine is i got him eliminated once long ago when i was scum and he was obvtown. also had a kinda trash scumgame but that was also forever ago so i assume no longer true
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:14 am
by Menalque
So: she gets a pass for today, and if she doesn’t pick it up soon/once recovered then I’ll flip her
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:15 am
by Menalque
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:17 am
by Menalque
In post 1053, petapan wrote:what i know about pine is i got him eliminated once long ago when i was scum and he was obvtown. also had a kinda trash scumgame but that was also forever ago so i assume no longer true
Pine now has a notoriously good scumgame and is actively more enthusiastic when rolling scum (although he can strategically lurk). It’s ++town for me that he let himself be replaced instead of hitting the minimum activity requirements, which is something he could definitely have done if he was scum and lurking intentionally instead of bc he just wasn’t engaged as town
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:30 am
by TheGoldenParadox
it's so funny that you're talking about your own slot, one that you got the role pm for, as "++town for you"
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:32 am
by petapan
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:32 am
by Something_Smart
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:33 am
by Menalque
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:34 am
by Something_Smart
Because we still have plenty of time and it doesn't seem like discussion is remotely done.
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:34 am
by Menalque
In post 1057, TheGoldenParadox wrote:it's so funny that you're talking about your own slot, one that you got the role pm for, as "++town for you"
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It’s not any less true tho
Hey S_S!
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:35 am
by Menalque
Who would you vote for?
Also, wanna take a stab at my super secret scumread?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:35 am
by Something_Smart
In post 1051, DrippingGoofball wrote:Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.
And since then, the site meta has shifted to where that is no longer acceptable and this person would probably get quite a negative reception for doing this today.
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:37 am
by Something_Smart
I'm ambivalent between DGB and Hoopla.
Also, wanna take a stab at my super secret scumread?
Nope!
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:38 am
by DrippingGoofball
@Menalque
I have been at times busy (this game for example, I had a publishing deadline to respect) but once my timetable cleared up, I fulfilled my obligations.
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:40 am
by DrippingGoofball
I will take you at your word re:Lilith.
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:41 am
by Menalque
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:41 am
by Menalque
In post 1066, DrippingGoofball wrote:@Menalque
I have been at times busy (this game for example, I had a publishing deadline to respect) but once my timetable cleared up, I fulfilled my obligations.
You seem to have correctly intuited that this is, indeed, part of the reason why I think you’re likely to be scum!
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:42 am
by Menalque
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:42 am
by Something_Smart
I don't see why I should be able to predict the reads of someone who just entered the game with better than random accuracy (assuming as you have already stated that they are not just consensus).
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:42 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1064, Something_Smart wrote: In post 1051, DrippingGoofball wrote:Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.
And since then, the site meta has shifted to where that is no longer acceptable and this person would probably get quite a negative reception for doing this today.
There was a negative reaction back then, too.
I am still soured. I have mafia personal sob story PTSD!
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:43 am
by Something_Smart
Because she's got a wagon?
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:45 am
by Menalque
In post 1071, Something_Smart wrote:I don't see why I should be able to predict the reads of someone who just entered the game with better than random accuracy (assuming as you have already stated that they are not just consensus).
But that’s not really what I’m asking, what I’m really asking is “who do you think could be a slot I think is so scummy as to term it “obvscum” but that hasn’t seen pressure yet?”