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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:49 pm
by Trendall
You reckon I 'went out of my way' by typing those two sentences?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:01 pm
by Lunar Martian
In post 1050, Trendall wrote:You reckon I 'went out of my way' by typing those two sentences?
I mean I quoted four separate posts.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:03 pm
by Trendall
Like wow I had a town read on somebody

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:05 pm
by Lunar Martian
The story keeps changing.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:11 pm
by Lunar Martian
To tldr my case:
1) Lack of real solving.
2) Making a lot of statements that sound like solving but are empty.
3) Making statements that sound like solving but allow Trendall not to take a stance either way and come down later.
4) The strange progression on me.
5) Discrediting people, especially Frogster
6) Now the repeated deflection of my pressure and changing story explaining point number 4.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:13 pm
by Trendall
What 'changing story'? Like where lmao. And where was I 'confident' in anything and where did I 'go to great effort' or whatever you said to defend you? You are just making stuff up.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:16 pm
by Lunar Martian
In post 551, Trendall wrote:Lunar Martian seems like town to me.
In post 552, Trendall wrote:Actually I don't think either of these wagons now are any good.
In post 699, Trendall wrote:I had a look at Lunar's ISO and I didn't find anything wrong with them really.
In post 770, Trendall wrote:
In post 705, Frogsterking wrote:You know Luca I was thinking about your case and I actually don't believe the meta change is AI, I think Lunar did better in the Newbie game because he was only in one game and the other players were new.
And there are fewer players (9 instead of 13 makes a huge difference), there are different players, it's an open setup, the roles are more basic, it took place at a different time in their life.....
In post 1037, Trendall wrote:
In post 1033, Lunar Martian wrote:who is there to defend me? Trendall.
Lol I won't waste my time then. Let's all get this then because there was a fair amount of support for eliminating Lunar yesterday, so we can just like, get it done now.

VOTE: Lunar Martian
In post 1047, Trendall wrote:
In post 1044, Lunar Martian wrote:It's just odd, since Trendall seemed very confident
I did two posts about you I think. One said
"Lunar Martian seems like town to me"
and the other said
"I had a look at Lunar's ISO and I didn't find anything wrong with them really"
. If you want to interpret that as somebody who is 'very confident' then there's not a lot I can do about that.
In post 1050, Trendall wrote:You reckon I 'went out of my way' by typing those two sentences?
In post 1052, Trendall wrote:Like wow I had a town read on somebody
These are all the relevant posts.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:18 pm
by Lunar Martian
Please note that Trendall didn't mention me between defending me and having a town read on me to now thinking I'm Mafia and wanting me dead.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:21 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Yeah that’s the thing that bothers me the most
And it seemed like his response was essentially “see if I defend you again, nyeh”
Indicates some ulterior motive to the townread on you

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:36 pm
by Trendall
In post 1057, Lunar Martian wrote:I'm Mafia and wanting me dead.
If I was mafia I'd have no reason to care if you're dead or not.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:55 pm
by bugspray
gamma was added to the hood at the same time as me and claims to be backup
there is a claimed town investigative role (which one is unclear) that claims to have a green light on npom

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:44 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
I knew it!

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:45 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
You get 2 recruits a night?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:47 pm
by Gamma Emerald
???
@NPOM

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:48 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
I knew I was town.

Bug said you two were added at the same time, implying more than one addition per night.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:55 pm
by Luca Blight
Bugs, any thoughts on the game in general? What was with the naked Lunar vote/unvote?

I don't want you to get bogged down in the neighborhood stuff as that won't help me read you.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:56 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
More than one recruit per night would be pretty unusual no?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:57 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 1064, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I knew I was town.

Bug said you two were added at the same time, implying more than one addition per night.
Bugs said Gamma also claimed backup, so presumably there's just two town backup neighbors, or one town and one scum backup (which is my suspicion).

I've never seen this before so it is pretty unusual.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:58 pm
by NoPowerOverMe
Ok.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:01 pm
by Luca Blight
I looked through the mini normal archives and the only game that had two backups of the same role was a game that had two backup IC's, but no actual IC, so not really comparable to this game.

There have been four members of the hood in total now, right? It would be highly unusual if they were all Town.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:03 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I don’t like calling it a recruit
That sounds like someone picked us out to join the hood, when it was just RNG that enabled that

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:05 pm
by OutWorldER
gamma being added to the hood doesn't really change my view on bugs

though I will say it doesn't need to be two backups of the same role for that to happen.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:06 pm
by Luca Blight
I found this mini normal that had six neighbors, with one of them being a scum traitor. Outworld mentioned this possibility, so it seems interesting.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78822

I'll need to take some time to reflect on it.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1069, Luca Blight wrote:I looked through the mini normal archives and the only game that had two backups of the same role was a game that had two backup IC's, but no actual IC, so not really comparable to this game.

There have been four members of the hood in total now, right? It would be highly unusual if they were all Town.
I’m not entirely enthused by this mindset regarding the hood
Imo neighborhoods shouldn’t be used as a PoE subset where someone
has to be
scum in it

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:13 pm
by Grendel
hmmm

VOTE: Momrangel